It's odd; I used to follow a hunt when I lived in England and I also went on the big Liberty and Livelihood march in London. I didn't meet a single toff, most of the people out hunting were farmers or their kids, people wanting to qualify their point-to-point horses for the season, there were nurses, shop assistants, pharmacists - people from all walks of life, most of them on average or below average salaries. I'd rather a well-run hunt than indiscriminate blasting of any fox in sight by un-expert marksmen.
And Lush will never, ever get any of my money again after its decision to give financial support to the Hunt Saboteurs Association who, in my experience, are little more than vandals.
Is fox hunting with dogs an effective method to keep their numbers down?
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
The darling little foxes should be left alone by these bad dogs and 'orrible men with guns n' lamps.
There are surely enough new born lambs and poultry out there that a percentage killed or maimed by brer fox is not going to matter to these rich landowners and farmers.
The ban of fox hunting has always irked me because it is such a silly class issue.
The same Labour politicians that quite ardently defended the rights of a fox are the same idiots who sent our fellow poorly equipped countrymen to fight and die in a foreign land.
There are more pressing issues to be addressed in the world by our Government than worrying about some damned fox hunters.
It's was an absoloute waste of time for our parliament to be voting on that issue and it just highlights the current failings of democracy in Europe where the State constantly undermines and overules the rights of the indivdual.
If Labour spent more time tackling the serious issues like where our energy is going to come from in 30 years time instead of cheap short term political goals then this country would be a lot better for it
Last edited by Flashman; 19-Oct-09 at 20:33.
not to mention the actual bill itself being totally unworkable, the act of hunting with dogs, has had very few convictions, as to proove beyond unquestionable doubt that the intention is to actually catch and kill a fox with a pack of hounds has proven almost impossible, how many millions of our money was wasted on it?
“A lot of good arguments are spoiled by some fool who knows what he is talking about.”
Exactly it was nonsense, it should of been something debated upon on a more local level by the people it directly affected which is what democracy is all about. Being from Caithness I dont and never will care about foxhunting, I dont vote on a national level to have them waste time on something like that.
Waste of taxpayers money, time and effort and another blow for democracy as it was a direct attack on the rural communities of England. It's not even much of an issue in Scotland.
Last edited by Flashman; 19-Oct-09 at 21:16.
It still shows John "Thurso" 's stance though......
There's a lot of 'class' snobbery going on here.
All those 'Toffs' hunting poor fluffy things......odd that, I was brought up in an area where all the hunts were mainly working men or people who grafted for their money.
Maybe this has more to do with people being sucked into the horrendous anthropomorphic mindset that Disney has bestowed upon the more gullible members of our community.
Rats...I like rats...perhaps we shouldn't poison them, kill them with dogs or shoot them?
Come on, let's hear some support for rats from the anti-hunt/shooting/working dog/anyone who drives a 4x4 and owns a horse brigade......
A tale with a bit of a moral ....
"Boris and Bunce and Bean, one fat, one short, one lean, those horrible crooks, so different in looks, were nonetheless equally mean."
They embarked on a plan to get rid of the fantastic one and failed.
Wonder if Roald Dahl was sending out a message to those nasty hunters.
I disagree completely, the Labour government put through the hunting with dogs legislation because there was such a ground swell of popular support for it.
In fact passing the law has actually freed up a lot of parliamentary time because private members were putting forward their own bills on foxhunting and the tories were filibustering each attempt (iow timewasting parliamentary time) so that the popular law would not go through.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Last edited by Rheghead; 20-Oct-09 at 09:59.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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