I agree that the adults should have known better, and personally I wouldn't allow my children to dress up as them because I am fully aware that people can be offended by them. I'm not. But my opinion is my opinion and yours is yours so fair enough.
LYour attitude is stuck in the 1950's, things and the world have changed. Even Robersons got rid of their trade marks long time ago, thank goodness, being called a golly..g or a nig. g is offensive to many all around the world these days, if the three who were "blacked" were children, it was adults that dressed them like that, and they would have/should have known the offence that would cause.
Once the original Grumpy Owld Man but alas no more
I agree that the adults should have known better, and personally I wouldn't allow my children to dress up as them because I am fully aware that people can be offended by them. I'm not. But my opinion is my opinion and yours is yours so fair enough.
“We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine....
And the machine is bleeding to death."
Can one dress as an 'incomer' at a Gala or is that racist too?
(asking for a friend)
Actually it is. I haven't spoke to anyone, not all white, who don't think that it's media fuelled poop. The idea that these kids set out to offend anyone is ludicrous. One punter phones the polis and according to the press we're all racists. As others have said, if this is all we have to worry about then there's something far wrong.
I very rarely raise my head above the parapets these days for total fear of retribution !!
But, in this instance, I feel a strong need to reply and also agree with others on this thread: namely "crashbandicoot1979" and also "wavy davy" - to name but two.
I find it incomprehensible that the (local?) police should find this an incident which requires investigation.
Lets just define the facts : -
1. Three young(ish) kids dress up as a TOY.
2. Said "TOY" just happens to be black in colour.
3. Wick gala, I believe, is open to anyone who is willing to participate in raising funds.
4. I think another "Orger" commented on how would we feel if there were a group dressed up as "Geisha Girls" (Japanese) . . . would this also be considered as "racist" ?
5. I (personally) know of someone who have had a break-in . . . . police were (allegedly) informed and absolutely no action was taken immediately . . .
6. This situation must be quite embarrassing for (alleged) police officers to persue.
7. I must also reiterate many other comments on this thread . . .
"There are many more happen stances going on in our town of Wick which require immediate police assistance - lets not allow 3 "kids" dressed as "TOYS" deviate from this "
Last edited by Iffy; 30-Jul-15 at 23:38.
Then you are ignorant and don't even understand the meaning of the word 'racism'.
Racism is discriminating against or oppressing someone based only on their genetic makeup. It is a purposeful act fueled by hatred.
Does anyone really believe their costume choice makes these people racists?
At the world cup in France the tartan army encouraged many locals to wear 'see you jimmy' hats. Were these people being racist towards Scots or to gingers? Of course not. Dressing up as somebody else does not mean you are insulting them. Sometimes quite the opposite.
If they were dressed up in drag would it be discriminatory towards those of the opposite sex or to transsexuals? No, because there is no insult and no intent to insult.
And all this debate assumes that gollywogs are black people. They are not. They are 'gnomes'. A gollywog is no more a black human than a Leprechaun is a Celtic human.
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Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
maybe best to start with quote from the Herald and take it from there. If you can quote Mein Kampf I'm sure you can work it out,
Once considered harmless cartoon characters, images of Golliwogs have become taboo in recent years because of their racial undertones.
The term in the UK is seen as a slur and there have been incidents across the country where people have been charged for using the name or portraying the character.
So 'racist undertones' and 'taboo' is the get out clause here?
I don't like taboos, they're generally an escape for people unable to address an issue directly. An elephant in the room that everyone ignores. I'd rather address the issue directly and discuss it with argument and reason. Whether an agreement can be made or not, it is better to discuss a disagreement or belief than stick your head in the sand because something is 'taboo'.
Do you honestly believe the 3 fundraisers in the photo are guilty of a racially motivated crime?
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
magic comments the worlds gone completely mad mad i say,it was a fun day to raise funds for goodness sake get over it.
damn right, lets all just do what we like and forget whether we offend anyone so long as were raising money for charity
here's my costume for next year ....
zombie jimmy saville ... it's not illegal, right ? so where's the harm ?
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
Oh dear what a stooshie. What am I going to do with my collection of Robertson's golly badges now?
'We are more alike, my friends, than we are unalike.'
Maya Angelou
A white person dressing as a black is as offensive as a white person calling them racial slurs.Neither physically harm as such but are both completely offensive.The dressing up as a toy of yester year is bull also, they dressed as a toy which has been universally outlawed as it was totally racist, even the jam manufacturer drooped the distinctive logo due to the racial issues.A similar thing to the confederate flag in the USA being dropped as it has a racial undertone.
If a white person dressing as a black person is racist then is it not racist for a black person to dress as a white person? i remember a popular movie called "white chicks" where 2 black guys dressed as white blonde girls that giggled alot and were a bit thick.... i don't think anyone involved in that film were "hunted by police" or called racist
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