no my votes SNP through and through
I'd vote tactically to avoid an SNP landslide
Not really bothered who wins
I'm going to stick to my normal party
The lowering of voting age to 16 was just a cynical ploy by socialists to garner extra support from younger voters who are intrinsically more left wing than older voters. If 16 is good enough to vote why not lower all the age restrictions to 16 and give the youth all the rights and responsibilities that adulthood confers upon a person. That would include ability to drive and pass a test at 16, to drink alcohol,marry without parental consent, obtain finance and mortgages and serve as front line troops and pay fully your way as an adult without any state funding.
I take it you have passed your posts through SNP party central and have Nodding Nicolas officially sanctioned approval, as we all know she has said very publicly she disavows herself of cybernats speaking on behalf of the politburo oops I mean party!
Meanwhile down on the Clyde it's been found that one Tunnocks tea cake and a can of Irn Bru cannot feed 5000, but that is purely down to Westminster and current worldwide market conditions that are beyond Nodding Nicolas control, but if you bear with her the transition may take a while longer but she is sure together they will get there in the end !
Last edited by BetterTogether; 23-Apr-15 at 22:16.
The real dilemma for tactical voters is which pro-union party to vote for? Lab or Libdem? Normally I would have said Libdem as they are the incumbent but they have trashed their support by aligning themselves with the tories but Labour have kept their approval ratings intact on a UK wide scale. Plus John Thurso is a tory in all but name. I think the SNP will romp home on this seat.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Who gives a toss? they are all corrupt sleaze bags.
The only Independence party Im interested in is UKIP. They seem to be the only party who are saying what most people are thinking.
The world is a system its only how you work the sytem that counts...............
Better together, drop the use of the word / term "socialists" which you seem to use with Mcarthyite zealousness and at will in a lot of your postings, frankly your beginning to annoy me, you sound like a T party type of guy, which Im sure your not, but jeezo, the only real "socialists" were the Liberal governments post 1900 / 1914 and Atlee 1945- 1950 ,The Labour Party that ran on promises to create full employment, a tax-funded universal National Health Service, the embracing of Keynesian economic policies and a cradle-to-grave welfare state, with the campaign message 'Let us face the future.' embraced by ordinary people in their millions, wiping out Conservatives ( Churchill and all ), you know, those that fought and won a war against fascim, a generation whose fathers fought WW1 and returned to nowt but hot air..... No party, apart from some aspects of the greens, can ever be called these days, socialist, or to put it straight socialism in the c21st is by no means equal to c20th century socialism. It cant be now can it ? Your use of the word is a catch all aimed at any party who strays from the right.
Now despite all Ms Sturgeons comments about wanting to do deals with the Labour Party today we start to see the real SNP agenda appearing.
Edinburgh East Candidate, Tommy Sheppard " on May 7th,we can visit on them their worst nightmare "
Dundee West Candidate, Chris Law " if I'm elected to Westminster I'm going to make sure there's fire in my belly, a loud voice and a strong fight to hold their feet to a fire for a roasting "
East Lothian Candidate,George Kerevan " this UK election is the most important of our lives. If the SNP gains enough seats we can ensure the full home rule vow is delivered- not just Smith. After Home Rule, independence will follow as the UK economy implodes "
Finally they are showing their true colours and intentions of they get the seats nothing but trashing the economy and creating a rift between Scotland and the rest of the UK and attempting to destroy the economy on their way through.
Progressive SNP socialism at its worst, how do you justify wishing to implode an economy thus affecting the poorest in society hardest and crippling the livelihoods of honest working class people as you do it.
Last edited by BetterTogether; 27-Apr-15 at 16:31.
Ms Sturgeons comments about wanting to do deals with the Labour Party is a red herring ie nonsense about keeping labour "honest" and on track...Millaband has already rule out any coalition, if he gets in on SNP support he and labour are totally finished which he well knows, how can you do deals with a party who exists to fragment the UK ???? It cannot ever be on.
Given the rhetoric espoused by Mr Salmond and his cohorts during the referendum and raging of cybernats across many forums since, the brand SNP is probably too toxic for Labour to sit with and expect to win again,should they go down that route.
But let us never underestimate Mr Millibands desire to win at any cost. That in itself may be the factor we cannot take into account.
Then what has to be considered is if rUK decides it's time to jettison Scotland under its terms not those of the Edinburgh agreement.
What cost may they extract as the vengeful bigger country tired of the constant attempts at extortion by a small neighbour.
Things certainly wouldn't look so rosey in the garden then as the SNP wouldn't have any cards to play just the get what your given and be thankful scenario.
All the bravado in the world wouldn't guarantee anything the larger partner didn't want to give in those circumstances.
Thats where we disagree.....SNP are right of centre, tartan tories....despite the rhetoric / fight austerity etc...they are totally one sided, middle and upper classes haae demonstrably gained form the SNP, 2 examples 1 Non means tested "treats" 2 Council tax freeze...oh and "debatably" free higher education / no fee's : I think you've fallen for STurgeon et alls false rhetoric.
You may well be right all I've noticed is they don't actually manage to do anything competently, it's all typical vote winning freebies. As for tonight's little soire what a disappointment I thought you said Evans would give her a rough ride, she didn't answer a single question honestly and just evaded everything.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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