Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
I think most older brexiteers were voting for Bygone Britain but they're waking up to a Brave New world and a second indy ref is the first likely consequence as it looks as if the scottish sun and the Daily Record seem to be edging towards backing independence, we live in interesting times...
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Well of course I'm saying some of the previous information is out of date. The EU stuff unsurprisingly, the oil calculations - let's have some new ones based on new figures. The ones we had were right at the time but need to be redone for today's information, the argument over currency needs to be sorted out once and for all but as I recall the governor of the Bank of England did say after the Indy ref that of course Scotland could have used the £ so I guess that one is pretty much dealt with.
If if we are having Indy ref 2 and it's not guaranteed remember, it is simply on the table - then we need new information.
The pound would surely now be the currency of the remainder of the UK seeing as how everything has changed with the vote. If Scotland becomes independent and stays in the EU then it will be the euro for us, I feel. The queen will not be the head of state anymore either, I would imagine.
The queen is the queen of Scotland too. She would stay for now. The move to a republic would need to be voted on by the public.
I'm more incredulous that we now appear to not only have no functioning Government, but no bloody opposition either. It appears that after telling us that Scotland would not be able to stand on our own two feet it is only Scotland that is actually doing so.
For goodness sake WM get a grip!
So nic can veto Thursday's vote by refusing to remove EU legislation from Scotland.
things are getting interesting now.
W.A.T.P.
She was on daily politics, where the presenter put to her that article 50 has to be agreed upon by all devolved parliaments to remove EU legislations. She then Agreed that by not agreeing to it would effectively veto the whole referendum
apparantly legal brains have been through it and agreed.
she said of course she would explore this option
the presenter then stated that this would cause fury with the leave voters, her response was that it would be on a par with the fury in Scotland over the vote and that her duty is to look after Scotland's best interests.
i am sure you can watch it back on the on demand sites, failing that Bbc news are running with it
W.A.T.P.
I am no fan of sturgeon but you have to admire her pair of massive brass swinging balls
W.A.T.P.
My opinion is that veto (if it does exist) is going nowhere rapidly on the basis that it would be a massive act of the tail wagging the body. It is absolutely counter to the wishes of England and Wales and whereas it would be a small sticking plaster on a large festering wound it will only serve to orchestrate more ill feeling across these islands.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Don't think there is a veto. Westminster has written into the 1999 Scotland Act that the Sewel Convention does not affect the power of the UK Parliament to make laws for Scotland, although it would normally legislate on devolved matters with the consent of the Scottish Parliament. Surely nobody really thinks that Westminster would leave a loophole that would let Scotland stop UK-wide legislation?
I think this is quite farcical, why bother taking part in the referendum if your not going to abide by the result, I can see indy 2 being triggered by England and a UK vote been taken on the issue, quite frankly it should be seeing as Scotland appears to have a vito on a legitimate referendum.
Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
Don't think so.....if all of the above ie A - Massive taxation increase B - Massive public spending cuts C - Combination of A & B were to be put in force, we wouldn't be allowed to be in the Euro, even if we were in the process of joining it, if that knocked the convergence criteria to pot.....so Buckley's chance of it being forced on Scotland at the whim of the EU.
Before you can join the Euro officially, you have to meet the convergence requirements, one of which is a two year successful membership of ERM II. The UK failed its membership of ERM II, and Sweden had a referendum in which it voted not to join it. Therefore the only two EU countries which are not either in the Eurozone or in ERM II and working towards convergence criteria to join the euro are Sweden and the UK..and the UK did try. If we didn't want to join the Euro....all we'd have to do is have a referendum as Sweden did and not join ERM II. And first, anyway, we'd have to have a central independent national bank, as far as I can see.....so the euro wouldn't be any kind of an option for a few years, unless we were to use it informally, as I suppose we can, just as any country can use sterling and the dollar.
Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
patience.
The chance of Scotland vetoing the Brexit is non existent. As non existent as WM vetoing a 2nd indyref if the SG votes for one.
Abiding by by the result would work if some areas of Scotland had been leave but none of them did.
Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
If we had left the UK the first time around then we woudn't have been in this pickle. Scotland would have got what it wanted and England and Wales too.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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