CHaP/Ignis Energy meeting

[chordie]

Is this the Ignis Energy co, mentioned?; http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/41232252651f937a99605c0942482165/compdetails previously Regen Laing Ltd

Oh dear, this doesn't look good at all.

The trail of name changing, address changing and Director changing is concerning.

Their 'headquarters' as indicated on their website is a residential house in Richmond (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...13583&t=h&z=17).

Their registered address is an accountants office in Beaconsfield. (edit: just noticed that the accountants went bust at the end of last year for dodgy share trading !!)

And most alarmingly, I've also looked at their most recent annual accounts which shows them in a deficit:
- cash £2,000
- liabilities to be paid within 12 months: £419,000
- liabilities to be paid in more than 12 months: £577,000
- money due in from clients: £69,000
Which means the net value of the business is..... NEGATIVE £925,000 !!

Expect to see your woodchip plant go up in smoke.

[dozy]

Oh dear, this doesn't look good at all.

The trail of name changing, address changing and Director changing is concerning.

Their 'headquarters' as indicated on their website is a residential house in Richmond (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...13583&t=h&z=17).

Their registered address is an accountants office in Beaconsfield. (edit: just noticed that the accountants went bust at the end of last year for dodgy share trading !!)

And most alarmingly, I've also looked at their most recent annual accounts which shows them in a deficit:
- cash £2,000
- liabilities to be paid within 12 months: £419,000
- liabilities to be paid in more than 12 months: £577,000
- money due in from clients: £69,000
Which means the net value of the business is..... NEGATIVE £925,000 !!

Expect to see your woodchip plant go up in smoke.

chordie; Well said .If i posted this folk would say its just sour grapes on my part ,but the truths out there .This is the Councils" PREFERED"bidder and they stated that "they looked hard for the right company" .Just goes to show the same CLOWNS are running the CIRCUS.
If the folk of Wick were up for it, we the community could challenge the Councils decision over CHaP/Ignis and put in a community run charity...But we would have to be quick off the mark ..I'm sure the PRESS and TV folk would jump at it ...

[chordie]

This is the Councils" PREFERED"bidder and they stated that "they looked hard for the right company"

Well given that it was a tendering exercise, I've had a look at the original tendering documentation produced by Highland Council which is still available at PublicContractsScotland.

Apart from the fact that this is a 25 year contract, the selection criteria is interesting, and I quote:

As an absolute minimum, organisations must: 1) Demonstrate that they have the relevant experience to design, build, operate, manage, maintain and administrate a district heating scheme and 2)that they have the financial resources to invest in the initial scheme and to maintain delivery of a community heating scheme for a period of up to 25 years without subsidy from the procuring Highland Council.
Failure to provide satisfactory evidence of the above two questions will result in automatic disqualification.

Now given the timing of the tendering process, that would fall in line with the accounting period I outlined in the previous post. So it beggars belief as to how Ignis Energy ever got off the starting blocks in the tendering process since they certainly don't meet condition 2 - not only do they not have any money then, but they had nearly £1million in debt and no obvious income.

As I've not been close to this project, remind me again who are the specific Councillors and Council Officials who are responsible for this. Because they've handed over your heating system to a sham outfit, and broken their own tendering rules in the process.

[dozy]

Chordie;
I would very much like to name and SAME the Councillors involved, but for legal reasons i just can't . SORRY ,as they are still sitting Councillors and i dont need the hazzle i got last time around .You post is an eye-opener and goes to show they are still writing their own rules and putting two fingers up to the public (pity these folk are still in the job).Its up to the Folk of Wick if they want to sort it out .They should stand up and show the highland council that the county belongs to the folk that live there .These closures/sell offs of services ,swimming pools etc and of course the New High School fiasco.The Wick folk should draw a line under this and tell Councillors NO MORE .The people of Wick should decide what goes where and when ,because to their money and their Town ..
I think the Council has breached the guidelines on this a the contact should be null and void.

[Droopy]

Chordie;
I would very much like to name and SAME the Councillors involved, but for legal reasons i just can't . SORRY ,as they are still sitting Councillors and i dont need the hazzle i got last time around .You post is an eye-opener and goes to show they are still writing their own rules and putting two fingers up to the public (pity these folk are still in the job).Its up to the Folk of Wick if they want to sort it out .They should stand up and show the highland council that the county belongs to the folk that live there .These closures/sell offs of services ,swimming pools etc and of course the New High School fiasco.The Wick folk should draw a line under this and tell Councillors NO MORE .The people of Wick should decide what goes where and when ,because to their money and their Town ..
I think the Council has breached the guidelines on this a the contact should be null and void.

Whats the bets Noel 'Not' News wont be reporting this story,(or anything to do with the High School shambles) in his diary anytime soon!

[thejudd]

We need to do something about this and very QUICK.....between us can we organise a meeting of some sort to see wot the options are

[bcsman]

yes,i agree.i think the coucil have been very dodgy about this,we need to know exactly where we stand and what protection we have.
wish i never got this heating installed now,its just been a shambles from the very start,some people should be held accountable for this mess

[rob murray]

Oh dear, this doesn't look good at all.

The trail of name changing, address changing and Director changing is concerning.

Their 'headquarters' as indicated on their website is a residential house in Richmond (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...13583&t=h&z=17).

Their registered address is an accountants office in Beaconsfield. (edit: just noticed that the accountants went bust at the end of last year for dodgy share trading !!)

And most alarmingly, I've also looked at their most recent annual accounts which shows them in a deficit:
- cash £2,000
- liabilities to be paid within 12 months: £419,000
- liabilities to be paid in more than 12 months: £577,000
- money due in from clients: £69,000
Which means the net value of the business is..... NEGATIVE £925,000 !!

Expect to see your woodchip plant go up in smoke.

Absolutely unbelievable, was there any diligence done on the company as part of the tender process, somebody has f'd up really badly here, or did they, was a diligence exercise undertaken / or was someone instructed not to check the company out ? Who would gain here..can anyone answer this one ?