And bang on cue, our Sheltie neighbours seem to be on the same mind.....
https://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2020...overwhelmingly
‘The message is clear’: councillors pass self-determination motion
Pls note,
I am not trying to ‘belittle’ Scotland, but after Cork/OQ’s etal, views of life (Indyref), I fail to see how there is any advantage in ‘going solo!
And for a sma’ Country of ‘honest people’, the Optics of the Top Dowgies and their Antics, it would/should certainly cause concern.....
And it is still going on......
And bang on cue, our Sheltie neighbours seem to be on the same mind.....
https://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2020...overwhelmingly
‘The message is clear’: councillors pass self-determination motion
Care to join Shetland and us, Caithness?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ds-snp-scottis
Sturgeon's nightmare! Orkney to follow Shetland in demanding independence from Scotland
OK, so the headline is a bit dramatic, but this is all a bit inconvenient for the Scexiteers. Of course, the situation should never arise anyway. I mean, the SNP would never drag Orkney and Shetland out of the UK against their will, not after all they have said about Scotland. They wouldn't. Would they?
Anyway, Caithnessians, its not too late to save yourselves. You can still join us if you want. We won't mind too much if you still have Gaelic placenames - Nicola can't speak a word of the lingo anyway, other than "Saorsa!", once someone translates it from Braveheart for her.
Last edited by orkneycadian; 13-Sep-20 at 10:04.
Oh dear....decided to have a wee peep in today, and find your gob is in full swing, as usual, spouting a load of rubbish, also as usual. Too many posts by you to even mention, throughout 'e org, but I think most speak for themselves.
About this, Orkney and Shetland Independence bid....you know just as well as I do that this Headline, and all the others, are just total rubbish. They asked for more autonomy, not Independence, and I say go for it. Obviously it is what you wish, but that is not what is happening. Westminster of course like to stir things up when Independence is mentioned, especially when it looks more likely than ever this time, but they haven't really, seriously started down that road, yet.
To have a real debate about that situation, if it does start up again, would be a waste of time, because you don't actually do debating too well.....so I thought I would just give you some food for thought.
Have you ever heard of UNCLOS? It's not an SNP page, nor laws made by the Scottish Goverment, so have a wee gander. A bit of further research may give you an even better idea of how much surrounding waters Orkney and Shetland would have if they leave Scotland, either to go it alone or remain part of the UK. How much oil and gas and fish would you have then? You could do a few of yer wee charts and calculations here. This has all been gone over before, but probably didn't make the headlines of the Express or the BBC.
Now, just say you opt to remain part of the UK, have you thought of how far you would have to travel, for instance, if you required a mainland hospital appointment? England is a wee bit further than Inverness, don't ye think? You would also lose free prescriptions and free University education, among many other things England don't do.
Then comes Trident. One of the first things an Independent Scotland would do is demand its removal, but as Westminster has said on many occasions, there is no place in England suitable for it. Now, I wonder where they might decide to relocate it to? There would be massive dockside development of course, and loads of new jobs, and they would also need a large enough airstrip for transport planes carrying warheads, but I suppose that would be good for transport links....unless it was designated for military use only? And while we are on this subject, have you ever heard what happened to the Chago Islanders? But, of course Westminster would never ever do that, again, or use compulsory purchase orders and evictions from land that the military want to acquire.....would they?
There are loads more things you have not even considered in your blind hatred of Scotland, and going on without us, so I wait in anticipation of your take on some of the above.
May I also add that I do not object in any way if Orkney and Shetland want to do their own thing. They have a right to decide, but just be careful what you wish for.
Last edited by Shabbychic; 13-Sep-20 at 21:23.
Ohhhh Deary me.....
Hids gettan Complicated......
Indeed it is Horseman, all driven by the monoagenda SNP
Interesting headline (well, front page domination) in this weeks Orcadian
https://www.orcadian.co.uk/wp-conten...tember-17.jpeg
Orkney independence could be good for the Caithness economy if they decide to have significantly lower Alcohol/Tobacco tax etc. Booze cruises could become a thing up here just like it is in the south of England.
“We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine....
And the machine is bleeding to death."
Not sure any Caithness holders of off sales licences would agree with you there, Alrock......
So this is where we should expect heaps of support from the Scexiteers. If we join them, as well as other oppressed outposts, such as Catalonia, then we should all band together. The SNP will of course be fully supportive. Won't they?
None of the things I mentioned above, regarding Orkney and Shetland, have anything to do with the SNP. They are just some of the consequences of going it alone, or remaining with the rUK.
If you are referring to Scottish Independence, you still fail to understand what it is all about. The SNP are not forcing anyone to go for Independence. They are the only way to get us there. Many people in Scotland want to become a country in our own right again. Most never wanted this union with England in the first place, but it was thrust upon us by Lord this and Earl that, who were blackmailed and bribed to sign us up, whether we wanted it or not. (If you want to get into the Darien fiasco...that should be a new thread)
You appear to believe that Orkney and Shetland should have the option of Independence, but not Scotland itself? That's like the politicians who always cheer on other countries that are celebrating their Independence Days, then turn round to Scotland and say, "Ah, but not for you."
Methinks you are going to have to change your ‘entire’ leadership.
It seems like a terrible mess! How can one go forward with all these Civil/Criminal proceedings, and continuing allegations!
Its not for the want of trying Horseman. Here in Orkney (and up in Shetland) we repeatedly have a Scottish Government foisted upon us that we did not vote for. And then for the following 5 years, they again make a right horses backside of it. I guess its due to years of repetition of this that the vikings are now seeking their FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully, once free, the rUK will have us back again. Maybe with the darkening nights, I should nip down to London and project an "Orkney and Shetland Luvs UK" message on the side of Big Ben?
You'd better get your skates on then before there is another lock down when the Scots might not actually be able to cross the border. Oh, and by the way, cases are rising rapidly in London and the NHS there are bracing themselves for a second huge influx of Covid patients- but of course, you dismiss all of that and this is not the virus thread at the end of the day. So, have a nice trip- send us a post card, won't you.
Considering the statement above, have you read the latest story from The Herald? You might Luv the UK, but it appears they don't think much of you.......or Human Rights.
Is that the Low Road, talking about the High Road. Lord luv a Duck!
I think we all now know who the Celebrity Witness was!
I take it everyone is happy that Indyref2 is proceeding.....
Even in this Covid time!
“We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine....
And the machine is bleeding to death."
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