As much as I support the Yes camp, I have to be honest piratelassie and say these threads that you start are becoming tedious.
When Scotjand votes for an Independent future next September the 3 big questions Europe, NATO, and the pound will obviously be settled through negoitation. Nobody seriously believes Scotland would not be successful in gaining all 3.
As much as I support the Yes camp, I have to be honest piratelassie and say these threads that you start are becoming tedious.
It's a big IF for starters Mr Van Rumpoy said some very interesting things regarding new countries which used to be parts of larger countries ie Scotland and Catalonia. NATOs position is reasonably clear unless the no ask no tell rules are played which would be gross hypocrisy and alas the Pounds position has been quoted as highly unlikely. That's an awfully lot of negotiation for a new country to undertake with no guarantees for success. Unless you of course accept everything Europe asks accept the Euro and all the other rules new members have to accept. Which then puts point three about the Pound as a moot point. You can't have both. Lets see NATO Scotland says no to nukes that'll upset the USA so bang goes NATO as well.
These threads are as transparent as leggings on a fat girl
W.A.T.P.
Should we really be part of the EU? The diktats from Brussels will be as onerous as those we currently tolerate from Westminster. NATO is largely influenced and controlled by the USA and it is not going to be happy with the SNP's attitude to nuclear, there's every possibility they'll dismiss Scotland as a nonentity. The pound and our use of it in international transactions will be controlled by the Bank of England so this alone rather negates the bid for independence. The negotiations are not a forgone conclusion, Brussels, Westminster and Washington could just turn their back on us; they all have more important issues to deal with.
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Maya Angelou
Negotiation relies on two or more willing participants. There has to be something in it for all parties. My feeling is that GB will be so hacked off by then, they will just offer a giant " Up yours". The incumbant UK government has to try to get re-elected afterall and is very likely to reflect the attitude of the voters. I can see a long period where the Scots will be as welcome as rabies in a dogs home in the UK.
Mind what you also have to consider is do the sums still work.Scotland has oil and gas but now we know its actually cheaper to buy American shale gas and then Scottish oils not so cheap either. That has to throw an awful lot of the pro independence campaigns fiscal policies Into turmoil as it would appear that the independence lobby are banking on oil and gas revenues.
I know is only wild speculation (which is always good on here! ) in the Daily Mail, but there is an interesting paragraph in this report....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533846/Battle-stations-Navy-scrambles-destroyer-challenge-Russian-warship-British-coast-takes-24-hours-make-600-mile-journey-Portsmouth-base-Putin-testing-response-time.html
....saying;
‘The Russians may also be inspecting nuclear installations in Scotland, with a view towards the independence referendum. Certainly the Russians would see the country as more vulnerable if it were no longer part of Britain.
‘The approach was part of a pattern of behaviour, and the action is more threatening when considered in this context.
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sometimes the devil needs an advocate
Precisely!. If Putin had decided to declare war on Scotland, theres a shed load of damage that could be done by that particular missile boat before any retaliation could occur and i'm sure the scrambled planes would have had it rough too. Not to mention that the rest of the Russian fleet were on operations not too far away!
Of course there are never any subs lurking close by that the RN will admit to.
Where's the rest of the thread?????
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