If it was possible, there must be people from the future living with us today? And someone would have bumped off hitler by now?
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Time Travel, could it be?
The thought of time travel is something that has always fascinated me and throws up the questions...could it be possible, or could it already have been achieved......... Is it a topic worth talking about or should it be left in the realms of fiction and dreams.
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If it was possible, there must be people from the future living with us today? And someone would have bumped off hitler by now?
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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Travelling forward in time (I mean at a greater rate than anyone round you) is straightforward and perfectly possible within our current understanding of physics. Look up Einstien's Twin Paradox on how that happens...
The problem with travelling backwards in time is that you would have to go faster than the speed of light (time and the speed of light are closely connected) which simply isn't possible under the current rules of physics... however if you were able to find a 'worm hole' or a 'singularity' (where the rules of physics breakdown and therefore no longer apply) then it may be possible to travel across great tracts of space and time...
their are scientists working on creating wormholes and they have managed to create them though they only lasted a couple of milli secconds and were about a few atoms wide by a meter long.the only down side is as soon as they open they start to close,so you have a good chance of being crushed,somewhere in time unless they find a way of stabilising it and keeping it open.
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Would you really be crushed or would it just mean that your travel would be halted in another part of the galaxy?Originally Posted by router
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It all depends on your interpretation of time travel... For instance when I moved to Caithness from Cheshire it was like travelling back in time and when I visited Osaka it was like being in the future...
Seriously though... Time travel has been proven when 2 atomic clocks, one on the ground and one flown around the world showed a measurable time difference.
Asuming time actually exists and we are actually moving forward then, are we already doing time travel.
Prior to time measuring instrumentation, the Aborigines did not have time... it was introduced to them...
Time is said to be there so as everything does not happen at once!
Angel
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Why did the aborigines have dream time then?
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I think the dream time is a western term, the aboriginals call it the dreaming.
She was not quite what you would call refined, she was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. Mark Twain
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Thank you Lolabelle but did the Aborigines really have no concept of time before being invaded by the west?
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I don't know, I shall investigate and let you know!
But they didn't have clocks, and they didn't grow crops, but it stands to reason they they would have noticed seasons. They were hunter gatherers.
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She was not quite what you would call refined, she was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. Mark Twain
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I am afraid my only knowledge of aborigines was the movie, 'The Chant of Jimmy Blacksmith'.
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well I've just done a bit of reading, and in the couple of articles I looked at, it seems the aboriginals were more organised than we've been led to believe. They did do some agricultural type things, they lived in villages and planted yams and grasses in hard times. They also built incredibly intricate fish and eel traps, in particular at a certain time of year hundreds if not thousands gathered where they harvested eels at a particular time each year. They burned off scrub every 2 years, and they had rituals and ceremonies. It's impossible to believe that a culture so entwined with the land could not mark the passing of seasons etc.. so that in itself says to me that they used time in some form, no one had clocks as such originally. So there you go, my opinion!
She was not quite what you would call refined, she was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. Mark Twain
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It seems they did not need "time" they existed with nature - felt when things were right. We use time to go against nature in the western world!
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Again, thank you. A personal opinion but an informed one.
I watched a prog about Casuarina and it seems to me that these people have no life now under a repressive western regime.
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Wise, wise words Wifie..............we in the western world put emphasis on linear time, which relates to mundane activities, conscious actions based on material gain.....................
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How so Wifie, perhaps you could elaborate on the west's misuse, understanding of time?
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Well we manipulate time for our own ends! Extending the growing time of crops to add to food mountains we already have. Racin against the clock to do our jobs! Jugglin time to spend "quality time" with our children! Nothin happens naturally any more!
A simple example for me was that durin the summer hols I was lucky enough to be off with my children and it was wonderful not to watch the clock and just do what we wanted - it was so free! I know not everyone could have this "luxury" but it is only ourselves that make this so!
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Ok
Right!/,? I think I get it now.roll:
Why do I feel as if I have lived a sheltered life.?
A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears.
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I think we should ban time and then we would never be late again !
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Sounds like a plan, I like it!I think we should ban time and then we would never be late again !
I hate being ruled by the clock, but in today's western, and most likely every other society it does rule.
My life is not too bad now, as I work for myself, but I do have my nephew Jesse come every morning before school and then I take him to school, so I have that time restraint. And I love having Jesse, but it is a pain, because sometimes I just want to stay in my pj's, or go for a longer walk, but I can't. Having said that I wouldn't miss out on the "time" I get with my nephew for all the walks under the sun.
TBH, the Australian Aboriginals have been treated dreadfully, and as their culture is so different to ours it leaves them in a really bad state. Some live in slums in cities and are avoided by the mass population, some live still in village style communities in the outback, they aren't much better off. Some do live, work and operate the same as the whites, but its really hard when there is a lot of bad blood between the two. I have aboriginal friends, and I have met aboriginals that I find very intimidating. Unfortunately our governments in recent times have gone overboard in silly, futile ways to appease them for what has been done to the aboriginals since the white invasion and Captain Cook. But I really think that the aboriginals themselves don't know what will really help the situation. There is no easy answer. My cousin is married to an aboriginal and one of my best friends is aboriginal.
She was not quite what you would call refined, she was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. Mark Twain
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