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    Default An Economic Case for Scottish Independence

    For those of you who harbour doubts about whether Scotland could survive as an independent country please watch this. It's only of an hour out of your life and you may find it very enlightening.


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    This shows an interesting array of tables - https://howmuch.net/articles/richest...s-in-the-world

    Ireland, which for most of my lifetime, has been portrayed by Westminster as an economic basket-case is now the 5th richest country in the World based on per capita GDP. It is also the 2nd richest country in Europe by the same measure.

    Well played Ireland! Leave the UK; join the EU; join the Euro and never look back. There may be some lessons in there for Scotland, don't you think?

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    Perhaps...but who will lead you there?

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    Personally, I do wonder how much appetite there is among Scots for applying to join the EU- none at all among those with whom I speak. I consider that the pandemic has fundamentally changed everything and that things will not go back to 'business as usual' but I do not foresee yet what shape this might take. I daresay there will be a series of steps and changes that may surprise us all.

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    Whether there is an appetite in Scotland for re-joining the EU is currently irrelevant. The Scottish electorate made it clear in 2016 what they wanted and they were ignored. The only way to ensure the Scottish electorate get what they vote for is through independence. If, after that is achieved the people of Scotland then vote not to re-apply to the EU then that is absolutely fine with me. I won't like it but I will accept it as being the choice of the Scottish electorate. The decision will have been made in Scotland by the people who live here.

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    Can you have one without the other Corky?

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    [QUOTE=Corky Smeek;1197887]Whether there is an appetite in Scotland for re-joining the EU is currently irrelevant. The Scottish electorate made it clear in 2016 what they wanted and they were ignored.

    Were they really? I thought the vote was against separation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horseman View Post
    Perhaps...but who will lead you there?
    The plan is for Scotland to hold a General Election within 18 months of independence so that the People of Scotland can choose whatever shade of government they wish to lead them. The old parties will change or be replaced to reflect the new normal. Independence is normal. Hundreds of countries have gained their independence from the UK, non of them has asked to return to UK rule. There are lots of small normal countries making their way in the world. Why is it Horseman that you find this so strange?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronnuck View Post
    The plan is for Scotland to hold a General Election within 18 months of independence so that the People of Scotland can choose whatever shade of government they wish to lead them. The old parties will change or be replaced to reflect the new normal. Independence is normal. Hundreds of countries have gained their independence from the UK, non of them has asked to return to UK rule. There are lots of small normal countries making their way in the world. Why is it Horseman that you find this so strange?
    Of course, but you haven’t left yet...how can there be a solid Plan!
    There is a ‘power struggle’ going on which has not abated!
    This is not a ‘happy’ leadership.
    First they Investigated Civilly, and when that didn’t work, Criminal Charges were brought forward which failed.
    And these are the people who are going to Lead! I dunno!
    Generally, the populace gathers behind The Leadership........but.......
    Last edited by The Horseman; 24-Mar-21 at 23:39.

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    I meant the economic arguments really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corky Smeek View Post
    This shows an interesting array of tables - https://howmuch.net/articles/richest...s-in-the-world

    Ireland, which for most of my lifetime, has been portrayed by Westminster as an economic basket-case is now the 5th richest country in the World based on per capita GDP. It is also the 2nd richest country in Europe by the same measure.

    Well played Ireland! Leave the UK; join the EU; join the Euro and never look back. There may be some lessons in there for Scotland, don't you think?
    Let us not forget it has taken Ireland nearly 100 years to arrive at this point. Their Punt was tied to the Bank of England pound until they switched to the Euro in 2002. Ireland has benefited from its membership of the EU. Even now they are opening up new trade routes to circumvent having to cross the UK mainland. Scotland could certainly learn from this.
    'We are more alike, my friends, than we are unalike.'
    Maya Angelou

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