going round in circles

[lassieinfife]

when I started my family tree I never realised that it would like chasing the wind....I find one member then I hit a blank wall....I didnt realise that there were so many Mcphersons, Sutherlands,Gunn's and Bains all in one area and all married to each other...must have been the lack of tv's and computers but seriously folks any help that you can give would be greatly appreciated.


Since I started my search I have discovered just 2 Jasper Sutherlands...
1st was born in 1799 and died in 1881...pauper ....former tailor
2nd was born in 1874 and died in 1954.. a farmer
is there any chance that they could be related?
and does any of the famlies still live locally?

[fred]

Since I started my search I have discovered just 2 Jasper Sutherlands...
1st was born in 1799 and died in 1881...pauper ....former tailor
2nd was born in 1874 and died in 1954.. a farmer
is there any chance that they could be related?
and does any of the famlies still live locally?

There is a Jasper Sutherland listed in the 1841 census for Latheron born between 1796 and 1801.
Wife Jean born between 1806 and 1811 and a daughter Christain born in 1840 or
1841. They lived at Mid Clyth.

[lassieinfife]

Thanx for your reply Fred.....Jasper was my ggg father,and i have managed to find his death certificate but not a birth certificate .Have found wedding notice on "scotlands people" but unfortinately no image is available so that I can trace backwards up either side of family, its also not clear if his wife jane/jean gunn survived him........at this rate i shall be bald by end of year .........no tat all nice for a woman of my delicate age

[Tricia]

1861 Census in Latheron
Newlands SUTHERLAND Jasper Head M M 61 Tailor
Newlands SUTHERLAND Janet Wife M F 51 O
Newlands SUTHERLAND Christina Daur U F 20 O

[lassieinfife]

thanx tricia

info a help but can u tell me how i can acces the census records for 1861 etc??????

[Tricia]

You may already have these but it may help someone else:
Dwelling: Newlands
Census Place: Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203401 GRO Ref Volume 038 EnumDist 3 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jaspar SUTHERLAND M 81 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Pauper
Jean SUTHERLAND M 73 F Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Wife
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Dwelling: Township Of Braemore Estate Achnahavish
Census Place: Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203401 GRO Ref Volume 038 EnumDist 18 Page 1
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Eliza SUTHERLAND Widow 32 F Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer
David SUTHERLAND 9 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jasper SUTHERLAND 8 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jane SUTHERLAND 5 F Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Alexander SUTHERLAND 3 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Margaret SUTHERLAND 1 F Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Daur
John SUTHERLAND 11 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Stepson
Occ: Scholar
Alexander MACKAY U 34 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Bro
Occ: Shepherd

[Tricia]

1861 census? Just some info I have from my research.

Given the naming pattern of children in Caithness was usually:
1st son and 2nd daughter after father's parents.
2nd son and 1st daughter after mother's parents.
Going by the 1881 census which I posted - the children born to Elizabeth who was a widow aged 32 - were
David
Jasper
Jane
Margaret.
That would give the paternal g/parents as Jasper and Jane.
Pity at this stage we don't have the SUTHERLAND husband of Elizabeth(aged32) to see if it was one of Jasper senior's children. Do you have Jsper and Jane's children.

Gosh hope that all makes sense. Remember too that this naming pattern is not definite but a guide - children could be away from home on census, or may have died before census. The name Jasper makes it look a possibility - not many of that name.