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    Rip Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf, a great soldier and a good American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golach View Post
    Rip Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf, a great soldier and a good American.
    You forgot to mention 'mass murderer'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickly View Post
    You forgot to mention 'mass murderer'.
    You can say that about any successful soldier. I guess it depends which side you are on. Which side were you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickly View Post
    You forgot to mention 'mass murderer'.
    He helped remove a tyrant from Kuwait, a tyrant that killed thousands of his own people. What would you have done? Gone and told Saddam he's a very naughty boy and to go home? :-/ The world is a safer place thanks to people like Stormin' Norman, not the hand-wringers who aren't fit to lace his boots.

    Evil will continue as long as good men sit back and do nothing.

    RIP Norman

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    Quote Originally Posted by joxville View Post
    He helped remove a tyrant from Kuwait
    Slaughtering untold numbers of innocent civilians in his path.


    Quote Originally Posted by joxville View Post
    , a tyrant that killed thousands of his own people.
    This will be the tyrant that was a friend of Norman's country's (and our's) just before that, and was a friend throughout the murdering of his own people.


    Quote Originally Posted by joxville View Post
    The world is a safer place thanks to people like Stormin' Norman,
    It's fantastic isn't it - terrorism was eradicated in the 1990s was it ?!

    Buffoon.

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    As long as there are soldiers willing to put their lives on the line, terrorism will never be allowed to have a free reign. I was never brave enough to join the armed forces and so admire those who do, even if it means fighting those who were once considered 'friends'. Unfortunately there will always be arses like you, keyboard politicians that know all the answers only with the benefit of hindsight. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of Desert Storm, it's still soldiers past and present that allow us to have the freedoms we do. So you can to take the moral highground, it's a lonely place.

    I'm outta here.

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    Bravo Jox. I'd like to rep you, but I have to spread it! You certainly hit the nail on the head with this post.

    RIP Norman and all the other brave soldiers who have given their life for their country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joxville View Post
    Unfortunately there will always be arses like you,
    It's always such an admirable debating skill - resorting to swearing when you've nothing else to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickly View Post
    It's always such an admirable debating skill - resorting to swearing when you've nothing else to say.
    And calling an excellent soldier a mass murderer is a great debating skill. At what point did he commit mass murder? As i remember the war was fought and won with very few deaths. The only thing that was wrong was that we weren't allowed to carry on and finish the job there and then. It would have saved many more lives. Remember Slicky we didn't ask for the war we just responded and in war people die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billmoseley View Post
    And calling an excellent soldier a mass murderer is a great debating skill. At what point did he commit mass murder? As i remember the war was fought and won with very few deaths. The only thing that was wrong was that we weren't allowed to carry on and finish the job there and then. It would have saved many more lives. Remember Slicky we didn't ask for the war we just responded and in war people die.
    This 'war' you talk about. Can you enlighten us with date of the Declaration of War and the wording of the Proclamation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billmoseley View Post
    And calling an excellent soldier a mass murderer is a great debating skill. At what point did he commit mass murder? As i remember the war was fought and won with very few deaths. The only thing that was wrong was that we weren't allowed to carry on and finish the job there and then. It would have saved many more lives. Remember Slicky we didn't ask for the war we just responded and in war people die.
    Billmoseley am in full agreement with you and Jox's , please stop feeding our resident Troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by golach View Post
    Billmoseley am in full agreement with you and Jox's , please stop feeding our resident Troll
    Why is it so uncomfortable for you to find there are people with broader minded opinions other than you and the average Sun reader? Starting a thread by asking people to fondly remember a war-mongerer is hardly neutral is it?

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    I have a great deal of respect for Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf. He was a soldier's soldier, a great leader and fine strategist.
    What critics like Slickly conveniently forget is that soldiers carry out the orders of the democratically elected politicians who send them to do our dirty work.
    In the case of Gulf War One the coalition forces were assembled to retake Kuwait after the Iraqi invasion. Once this was done the coalition forces could have gone on to take Bagdad and secure Iraq. However there wasn't a politician who had the balls to make a decision; Schwarzkopf decided to cease hostilities and end the war.
    Critics will always use any excuse to cite coalition collateral damage to the Iraqis but conveniently ignore the barbarity the Iraqis perpetuated upon the Kuwaitis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickly View Post
    This 'war' you talk about. Can you enlighten us with date of the Declaration of War and the wording of the Proclamation ?
    It would be naive to think that going to war was as easy as making a proclamation.
    On 29 Nov 1990 the UN Security Council set a dead line for Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait before 15 Jan 1991 promulgated with its Resolution 678.
    On 12 Jan 1991 the US Congress passed a joint resolution authorising the use of military force to drive the Iraqi military out of Kuwait.
    It was a decision by our democratically elected government to join with the coalition and contribute to the freeing of Kuwait.
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    To Slickly - GET A LIFE AND COME BACK TO THE REAL WORLD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronnuck View Post
    It would be naive to think that going to war was as easy as making a proclamation.On 29 Nov 1990 the UN Security Council set a dead line for Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait before 15 Jan 1991 promulgated with its Resolution 678.On 12 Jan 1991 the US Congress passed a joint resolution authorising the use of military force to drive the Iraqi military out of Kuwait.It was a decision by our democratically elected government to join with the coalition and contribute to the freeing of Kuwait.
    Ah, I see. You had to spend an hour or so searching the Internet for something remotely connected to the point to cut and paste.It would have been simpler just to have posted "we weren't at war."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slickly View Post
    Ah, I see. You had to spend an hour or so searching the Internet for something remotely connected to the point to cut and paste.It would have been simpler just to have posted "we weren't at war."
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    Leaving aside the legitimacy of the war does the fact that he won it really make him a great General?

    With the amount of firepower at his disposal I reckon even Captain Mainwaring could have won it. Now, if he had won it against the odds then maybe you could call him a great General.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrock View Post
    Leaving aside the legitimacy of the war does the fact that he won it really make him a great General?

    With the amount of firepower at his disposal I reckon even Captain Mainwaring could have won it. Now, if he had won it against the odds then maybe you could call him a great General.
    if you look at the size of the iraq army at the time of the 1st gulf war it was a formidable foe and by no means a push over. the air force had some of the best combat aircraft. on paper it was an even match but great leadership made it look easy but i ashore you it wasn't.
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    Why do you feed Slickly's ego by responding to his inanities?? He's just getting off on it!!!

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