UFO's & Life Outside Earth

[pumkin]

I feel that the evidence toward life outside earth & UFO's is so strong that it's not a case of believing but a case of knowing that there is something out there. I feel that government (particularly the U.S government) have been keeping the facts from the public, & also the U.S Army, too. Maybe, they're keeping the facts to themselves for our own protection. Maybe one of these alien civilizations pose a threat to our race & we've got to protect ourselves from them. Or maybe one of these alien civilization's come in peace. Who knows?

Evidence shows that aliens visited the us in ancient times, there's several articles on the topic, but this is a good introduction showing several ancient civilizations;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

Also, many credible people speak out on the subject. Apollo 14 astronaut & moonwalker Edgar Mitchell;

http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/al...-mitchell.html

& also, Buzz Aldrin;

http://www.rense.com/general70/rep.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI - him speaking about UFO he saw in space

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXv...eature=related - him speaking about a monolith on one of Mars' moons. Who built it?

Again, there are many videos/articles about various NASA employees speaking about this.

Also, there are many cases that raises an eybrow;

Battle Of Los Angeles

Roswell

D.C. Lights

Phoenix Lights

I shall post links to these events after dinner!

Basically I'm posting this to hear other people's views on the subject. Do you feel we're alone? Do you feel that there are other civilizations out there? Do you feel one of these civilizations have visited earth? Or that we have visited one of these civilizations?

[pmcd]

I think Eric Idle, the Great Comic Philosopher, summed it up quite nicely -

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.


The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bungle all down here on Earth.

But seriously, of course there is more out there than we can even begin to dream of!

[shazzap]

I would like to believe, that there are other beings out there. But. Why is it that there are so many different species of life, on this planet.
Surely, if other life forms exist. Our planet Earth, would consist only of us. I don't know whether i explained myself, very well there, so if you don't get what i mean. I will understand.

[pumkin]

But seriously, of course there is more out there than we can even begin to dream of!

The fact is that the U.S Government & the U.S Army most certainly know that there is something out there. Technology has come so, so far in 50 years. I, & many other people believe that we've had a little help...

It's long been said that Ancient Egyptians communicated with Aliens. Their Gods were the aliens. Legend has it that Aliens would come to visit them & give them their intelligence, but only if the Egyptians responded by doing extraordinary feats of engineering. Both us & the aliens were learning here. This might sound a bit far out for some, but I think it sounds perfectly rational considering the Egyptians did some pretty incredible stuff with a mere hammer & chisel...

[pumkin]

I would like to believe, that there are other beings out there. But. Why is it that there are so many different species of life, on this planet.
Surely, if other life forms exist. Our planet Earth, would consist only of us. I don't know whether i explained myself, very well there, so if you don't get what i mean. I will understand.

Hi shazzap

Evolution has taught us that nothing just appears but rathers evolves from something. We humans evolved, from the moment of the big bang. So if there was life on another planet, that life surely would've evolved from somewhere, too.

In conclusion, if there is life on another planet, there'd most certainly be lots of other life forms as well.

[billmoseley]

of course there is life outside of this planet where do you think i came from

[Phill]

The fact is that the U.S Government & the U.S Army most certainly know that there is something out there.

For why is it just the US that know?

[Maccy]

I hope that they do exist. They can beam me up anytime.

[Saveman]

The fact is that the U.S Government & the U.S Army most certainly know that there is something out there. Technology has come so, so far in 50 years. I, & many other people believe that we've had a little help...

It's long been said that Ancient Egyptians communicated with Aliens. Their Gods were the aliens. Legend has it that Aliens would come to visit them & give them their intelligence, but only if the Egyptians responded by doing extraordinary feats of engineering. Both us & the aliens were learning here. This might sound a bit far out for some, but I think it sounds perfectly rational considering the Egyptians did some pretty incredible stuff with a mere hammer & chisel...

The aliens were called the Goa'uld. I saw a documentary about it....

[Mystical Potato Head]

Evidence shown that aliens have visited us in ancient times?.....
There is no proof of that,only assumptions.People like Erich Von Daniken see
alien visitations and technology in almost anything he looks at.I'm afraid he goes a bit over the top for me.I have his books along with others from Graham Handcock on ancient civilisations and there structures.
Fascinating reading and like any civilisation which based most of their worship skyward to the stars it is amazing just what they knew and what they could construct.
There is a lot of cave drawings the world over the could be interpreted as ancient astronauts.Why would people several thousand years BC draw people with domes over their heads?
Why would they show gods sitting atop chariots of fire that came down from the sky?
Those against will say its just imagination but even the wildest most vivid imagination can only come from things that we know.

The bible has more than its share of passages that could be read as having a "spaceship" connection.

II Kings 2:11 "And it came to pass, as they still went on talked, that, behold, there appeared a CHARIOT OF FIRE, and HORSES OF FIRE, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

If people want to belive then they will,stories of angels and gods descending from the heavens could very well be ancient astronauts landing on the earth but unfortunately there is no evidence.
I really do wish there was though.

If an alien race posed a threat to us their technology would be so advanced for them to be able to reach us in the first place,there weapons would almost certainly be equally advanced
and something we couldnt protect ourselves against anyway.
Maybe if a civilisation has become so advanced then maybe they have "evolved" from the tribal warfare that we as a species seem to specialise in and would pose no threat,who knows.

[shazzap]

Why then. Is there so many different life forms, on this planet.

[pumkin]

Also, there are many cases that raises an eybrow;

Battle Of Los Angeles

Roswell

D.C. Lights

Phoenix Lights

Ok, the above incidents are now world famous, but incase you aren't aware of any of these cases, here are some links for you to read.

Battle Of Los Angeles - (more commonly known as The Great Los Angeles Air Raid)

http://www.rense.com/ufo/battleofla.htm

An excerpt from the article reads - Imagine how this huge ship, assumed to be some unknown Japanese aircraft, was then attacked as it hung, nearly stationary, over Culver City and Santa Monica by dozens of Army anti-aircraft batteries firing nearly 2,000 rounds of 12 pound, high explosive shells in full view of hundreds of thousands of residents.

The Roswell Incident - http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/incident.htm

An excerpt from the article reads - On the morning of July 8, Marcel reported what he'd found to Col. Blanchard, showing him pieces of the wreckage, none of which looked like anything Blanchard had ever seen. Blanchard then sent Marcel to Carswell [Fort Worth Army Air Field] to see General Ramey, Commanding Officer of the Eighth Air Force.
Marcel stated years later to Walter Haut that he'd taken some of the debris into Ramey's office to show him what had been found. The material was displayed on Ramey's desk for the general when he returned.
Upon his return, General Ramey wanted to see the exact location of the debris field, so he and Marcel went to the map room down the hall - but when they returned, the wreckage that had been placed on the desk was gone and a weather balloon was spread out on the floor. Major Charles A. Cashon took the now-famous photo of Marcel with the weather balloon, in General Ramey's office.
It was then reported that General Ramey recognized the remains as part of a weather balloon. Brigadier General Thomas DuBose, the chief of staff of the Eighth Air Force said, "[It] was a cover story. The whole balloon part of it. That was the part of the story we were told to give to the public and news and that was it."

The military tried to convince the news media from that day forward that the object found near Roswell was nothing more than a weather balloon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident - This is a good bit of further reading, including publications of books on the subject.

D.C. Lights - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington_D.C._UFO_incident

http://www.spartechsoftware.com/dimensions/aliens/UFOWashington.htm

Excerpt from the article - Around midnight on July 19, 1952, radar operators at Washington National Airport noted several 'blips' on the radar over Washington D.C. (15 miles from the Washington National airport). These objects appeared to be traveling at 100 to 130 m.p.h. and would then suddenly accelerate to unbelievable speeds - sometimes in excess of 7,200 m.p.h. Washington National radar operators immediately contacted a local radio operator who confirmed that he too was tracking the objects. With two confirmations in hand they decided to further clarify the situation with Andrews Air Force Base.Around midnight on July 19, 1952, radar operators at Washington National Airport noted several 'blips' on the radar over Washington D.C. (15 miles from the Washington National airport). These objects appeared to be traveling at 100 to 130 m.p.h. and would then suddenly accelerate to unbelievable speeds - sometimes in excess of 7,200 m.p.h.

Note - These lights appeared again on July 26th & 27th

Phoenix Lights - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdIdDpJYSOM

I've put links to Wikipedia as it's an unbiased view, so you can take from it what you wish.

@Phill - As you can see, these events happened in America. Also, the 1947 incident at Roswell. Apparently, the Army took the Alien aircraft & the dead Alien bodies & experimented on them & the aircraft. This is where they learned advanced technology. There are many employees in various governmental & army positions that will say this is true.

[Phill]

Scotland's a UFO hotspot apparently:
http://www.scot-ufo.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

UFO expert: ‘Scotland is a world hot spot for UFOs

Not to mention UK's 'area 51', the secret facility beneath Portgower!

[Phill]

@Phill - As you can see, these events happened in America. Also, the 1947 incident at Roswell. Apparently, the Army took the Alien aircraft & the dead Alien bodies & experimented on them & the aircraft. This is where they learned advanced technology. There are many employees in various governmental & army positions that will say this is true.

Oh I know that's true, they used the technology to create the Aurora aircraft that used to fly into Campbeltown / Macrihanish.

[pumkin]

Why then. Is there so many different life forms, on this planet.

Evolution, Shazzap. We have all at one time been everything. We have been bugs & insects to fish & every other animal on the planet. Every rock & tree you see is the same elements that we're made from. Heck even the keys I'm typing on is part of us. EVERYTHING is us & we are EVERYTHING.

[shazzap]

Evolution, Shazzap. We have all at one time been everything. We have been bugs & insects to fish & every other animal on the planet. Every rock & tree you see is the same elements that we're made from. Heck even the keys I'm typing on is part of us. EVERYTHING is us & we are EVERYTHING.

Can't agree with. That we have all, at one time, been everything. IMO, we came from either. Fish. Apes. Or even the lowly Amoeba.

[billmoseley]

if you were an alien and had been watching us humans wouldn't you stay away? all we do is fight among ourselves. if they land we would surround them with tanks and then march them off to dissect them

[pumkin]

Can't agree with. That we have all, at one time, been everything. IMO, we came from either. Fish. Apes. Or even the lowly Amoeba.

It's not a case of agreeing here, shazzap. This is infact, fact. Watch Proffesor Brian Cox's Wonders Of The Universe. He discusses evolution in Layman's terms. You'd be amazed at how we got here.

[shazzap]

It's not a case of agreeing here, shazzap. This is infact, fact. Watch Proffesor Brian Cox's Wonders Of The Universe. He discusses evolution in Layman's terms. You'd be amazed at how we got here.

That again, is one persons take on things.

[bekisman]

Do I detect religion popping up here?