generation Y

[tonkatojo]

Generation Y

- People born before 1946 were called
The Silent generation....

- People born between 1946 and 1959 are called
The Baby Boomers.

- People born between 1960 and 1979 are called
Generation X,

- And people born between 1980 and 2010 are called
Generation Y,

Why do we call the last group Generation Y?



Yshould I get a job?
Y should I leave home and find my own place?
Y should I get a car when I can borrow yours?
Y should I clean my room?
Y should I wash and iron my own clothes?
Y should I buy any food?
And now Y should I pay for your pension?


But a cartoonist explained it very eloquently below....

[billmoseley]

o so true good post

[RecQuery]

Because Y comes after X, we prefer to call ourselves Millenials actually or 'the generation - along with X - that has to fix the mistakes of others'

Obviously this is a generalisation but:

The baby boomers squandered every advantage that their parents provided for them, and yet they have the nerve to complain that we're not in the same position they were. They sat by and did nothing while the economy got screwed for what they perceived as their own personal gain. Yes, let's continue slashing taxes even though our education and infrastructure is lagging behind other industrialized countries. Let's allow home values to become artificially inflated so we can take out equity we have no means of repaying. Let's outsource all our jobs so that we can pay 10% less on goods that are half the quality. Let's completely violate core our principles because we don't like gays and communists (although a lot of the blame for that lies with the so-called 'greatest generation').

To put it another way all our elders complain about how bad Gen-Y is. But Gen-Y isn't the problem. These baby-boomers are the most spoilt, self centred people I've ever seen. They all grew up in the post-war economic boom. They had luxuries and technology, free education, cheap housing - the world was their oyster. They are the ones running our governments, our business, the entire world. They've known fossil fuels were a liability for 40 odd years or more. We could all be driving electric cars, but they're greedy, complacent and lazy and now we're stuck with exorbitant oil prices and the looming disaster of climate change. They had their cheap housing, they've bought up all the good properties, inflated the housing market. They had their free (or at least extremely cheap) education too. They told their children they can't have jobs without a degree, then they force them in to 5-figure debts to get jobs that don't even exist. They control our banks and governments and together they have royally messed up the European and US economies because of it. People wonder why Gen-Y are so disenchanted, well, this is why. They've screwed up the environment, our education system, our government, our economy and they've simply shrugged and said "Oh well, we got ours and remember you lot, you've still have to pay for our retirement" and heaved the burden on to us. I'll be glad once they start to die off, because then we can work at making a better and sustainable future.

[gleeber]

Because Y comes after X, we prefer to call ourselves Millenials actually or 'the generation - along with X - that has to fix the mistakes of others'

Obviously this is a generalisation but:
The baby boomers squandered every advantage that their parents provided for them,

An excellent post and I have little defence my lord.
It wasnt squandered though. It was new to us and we didnt know how to handle it although theres plenty did and remained honourable and are still hanging in there. It was an evolutionary process and a big one if you want to view it from that angle. Every civilisation makes its mistakes but sometimes we dont learn from it. I recognise a new mindset in the millenials and although it frightens a baby boomer like me I know they are only trying to be the best they can be. Best of luck. Youll need it.

[RecQuery]

An excellent post and I have little defence my lord.
It wasnt squandered though. It was new to us and we didnt know how to handle it although theres plenty did and remained honourable and are still hanging in there. It was an evolutionary process and a big one if you want to view it from that angle. Every civilisation makes its mistakes but sometimes we dont learn from it. I recognise a new mindset in the millenials and although it frightens a baby boomer like me I know they are only trying to be the best they can be. Best of luck. Youll need it.

Massive generalisation like I said, and obviously upbringing and culture have to be factored into it.

Edit: On a side note Gen-Y/Millenial/Generation Next/Net Generation/Echo Boomers - whatever you want to call it, consists of those born between the 1st of January, 1982 and the 31st December 1993. Though some people use 1980 to 2000 as a catch-all. It's not the 30 year range indicated by the OP.

[theone]

Because Y comes after X, we prefer to call ourselves Millenials actually or 'the generation - along with X - that has to fix the mistakes of others'

Obviously this is a generalisation but:

The baby boomers squandered every advantage that their parents provided for them, and yet they have the nerve to complain that we're not in the same position they were. They sat by and did nothing while the economy got screwed for what they perceived as their own personal gain. Yes, let's continue slashing taxes even though our education and infrastructure is lagging behind other industrialized countries. Let's allow home values to become artificially inflated so we can take out equity we have no means of repaying. Let's outsource all our jobs so that we can pay 10% less on goods that are half the quality. Let's completely violate core our principles because we don't like gays and communists (although a lot of the blame for that lies with the so-called 'greatest generation').

To put it another way all our elders complain about how bad Gen-Y is. But Gen-Y isn't the problem. These baby-boomers are the most spoilt, self centred people I've ever seen. They all grew up in the post-war economic boom. They had luxuries and technology, free education, cheap housing - the world was their oyster. They are the ones running our governments, our business, the entire world. They've known fossil fuels were a liability for 40 odd years or more. We could all be driving electric cars, but they're greedy, complacent and lazy and now we're stuck with exorbitant oil prices and the looming disaster of climate change. They had their cheap housing, they've bought up all the good properties, inflated the housing market. They had their free (or at least extremely cheap) education too. They told their children they can't have jobs without a degree, then they force them in to 5-figure debts to get jobs that don't even exist. They control our banks and governments and together they have royally messed up the European and US economies because of it. People wonder why Gen-Y are so disenchanted, well, this is why. They've screwed up the environment, our education system, our government, our economy and they've simply shrugged and said "Oh well, we got ours and remember you lot, you've still have to pay for our retirement" and heaved the burden on to us. I'll be glad once they start to die off, because then we can work at making a better and sustainable future.

That is the best post I ever read on this forum.

So very, very true.

[Alrock]

Because Y comes after X, we prefer to call ourselves Millenials actually or 'the generation - along with X - that has to fix the mistakes of others'

Obviously this is a generalisation but:

The baby boomers squandered every advantage that their parents provided for them, and yet they have the nerve to complain that we're not in the same position they were. They sat by and did nothing while the economy got screwed for what they perceived as their own personal gain. Yes, let's continue slashing taxes even though our education and infrastructure is lagging behind other industrialized countries. Let's allow home values to become artificially inflated so we can take out equity we have no means of repaying. Let's outsource all our jobs so that we can pay 10% less on goods that are half the quality. Let's completely violate core our principles because we don't like gays and communists (although a lot of the blame for that lies with the so-called 'greatest generation').

To put it another way all our elders complain about how bad Gen-Y is. But Gen-Y isn't the problem. These baby-boomers are the most spoilt, self centred people I've ever seen. They all grew up in the post-war economic boom. They had luxuries and technology, free education, cheap housing - the world was their oyster. They are the ones running our governments, our business, the entire world. They've known fossil fuels were a liability for 40 odd years or more. We could all be driving electric cars, but they're greedy, complacent and lazy and now we're stuck with exorbitant oil prices and the looming disaster of climate change. They had their cheap housing, they've bought up all the good properties, inflated the housing market. They had their free (or at least extremely cheap) education too. They told their children they can't have jobs without a degree, then they force them in to 5-figure debts to get jobs that don't even exist. They control our banks and governments and together they have royally messed up the European and US economies because of it. People wonder why Gen-Y are so disenchanted, well, this is why. They've screwed up the environment, our education system, our government, our economy and they've simply shrugged and said "Oh well, we got ours and remember you lot, you've still have to pay for our retirement" and heaved the burden on to us. I'll be glad once they start to die off, because then we can work at making a better and sustainable future.

That is the best post I ever read on this forum.

So very, very true.

I'll second that

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[ducati]

I'll second that

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Really? I think he's talking bottox as usual.

[gleeber]

I'll second that

Calm down chaps. it's a good post but it's not very very true. It's partly true. Generalisations are snapshots of bigger pictures. Lifes not about blaiming someone else although it seems to be an engrained quality in human behaviour. I'm encouraged when I listen to younger people discussing their world although it's tempered with youthful idealism. Another 30 years and the whippersnappers will be running things. It'll be interesting times and the proof of the pudding will still be in the eating.

[ducati]

Calm down chaps. it's a good post but it's not very very true. It's partly true. Generalisations are snapshots of bigger pictures. Lifes not about blaiming someone else although it seems to be an engrained quality in human behaviour. I'm encouraged when I listen to younger people discussing their world although it's tempered with youthful idealism. Another 30 years and the whippersnappers will be running things. It'll be interesting times and the proof of the pudding will still be in the eating.

Yeah, everyone will be off their heads on Crack and the Olympics will be played on a DS.

[Corrie 3]

But Y doesn't the World owe us a living ? I think you will find it does and don't argue with me.

But Y do I have to get out of bed before 2.00pm?

Y of course I expect a car to be delivered to my door as soon as I have passed my test, taxed and insured of course and capable of 150mph with a loud exhaust!!

Y cant you just hurry up and snuff it so that the house will be mine all mine?

Y of course my Generation hasn't been brought up on greed and consumerism!!

C3..............

[Alrock]

But Y doesn't the World owe us a living ? I think you will find it does and don't argue with me.

Correct... It does.... & this is why.....

Nobody asked to be born....
Once born you have just as much right to a life as anybody else....
The life you have is governed by rules you have little choice over....
Because of these rules it is neigh on impossible to totally opt out.... Why?
You can't just live where you want to, all land is owned by somebody so that would be trespass....
Even if you did find a piece of land to live on you can't just build yourself a house what with planning permission & a raft of building legislation to get round....
Even if you managed to get yourself a piece of land & a house you can't feed yourself of the land, that would be poaching & as for water to drink that would almost certainly be polluted so clean drinking water needs to be provided....

So... Since there is no way to totally opt out meaning that you have no choice but to live under societies rules then by default society has an obligation to take care of you to a standard that society deems to be normal.

[weezer 316]

I'll second that

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And third. Hes bang on!

[Corrie 3]

Y ....of course I am entitled to a degree at other people expense !!!!!!!

C3............

[squidge]

Y ....of course I am entitled to a degree at other people expense !!!!!!!C3............

Absolutely you should be!!! Its hardly handed on a plate is it? Doing an OU degree whilst working must be so hard. Many of us generation xers got degrees at public expense. Do we want to return to the days where bright intelligent articulate young people like my mother cant go to university because they or their parents cant afford it? I hope not.

[Corrie 3]

Absolutely you should be!!! Its hardly handed on a plate is it? Doing an OU degree whilst working must be so hard. Many of us generation xers got degrees at public expense. Do we want to return to the days where bright intelligent articulate young people like my mother cant go to university because they or their parents cant afford it? I hope not.

Your Mum must have been a baby boomer then Squidge............"These baby-boomers are the most spoilt, self centred people I've ever seen. They all grew up in the post-war economic boom. They had luxuries and technology, free education, cheap housing - the world was their oyster" was Recquery's views on our generation!!!
Luxuries? No, unless you call a sugar mouse and an orange at Xmas a luxury!! Technology? No, unless you call a game of snakes and ladders technology. Free education? Yes, up to the age of 15 then it was off to work we go!!! Cheap housing? ...not sure were that one came from as only Bank Managers could get mortgages in those days! World was our Oyster????.....I didnt step on a plane until I was 40 yrs old, my Oyster up until then was a week at Dornoch !!!

C3................

[Alrock]

Cheap housing? ...not sure were that one came from as only Bank Managers could get mortgages in those days!

Different social values then, no obsession with owning your own home, renting was easy & affordable....
For those who did buy, in 1952 (adjusting for inflation) average price was £40000, now average price is £164785, over 4 times the amount.
For those who waited until the 80's then prices where still half of what they are now.

[secrets in symmetry]

Calm down chaps. it's a good post but it's not very very true. It's partly true. Generalisations are snapshots of bigger pictures. Lifes not about blaiming someone else although it seems to be an engrained quality in human behaviour. I'm encouraged when I listen to younger people discussing their world although it's tempered with youthful idealism. Another 30 years and the whippersnappers will be running things. It'll be interesting times and the proof of the pudding will still be in the eating.

Lol! I see what you mean about you using humour to diffuse situations between those that disagree - and you're rather good at it. Diffusing RecQuery when he goes "off on one" is not easy - because he's nae bad at it too.

Freeeeeeeedom!

[squidge]

Your Mum must have been a baby boomer then SquidgeC3................

Nope, the silent generation Corrie. Mum was born in 1935.

[ducati]

As a schoolboy, I decided the way the world was going and resolved to never have children. After a few flings (er not many at all really, therealducati ) I met a girl who felt the same way and the rest is history.

If it was up to us, there would not have been a Generation Y.