Margaret Thatcher...

**sandyr1** · 01-Dec-11, 03:15

I had mentioned Margaret Thatcher on that infamous thread that became a closed shop..

So now I would ask....What did she do...right or wrong...she was the Prime minister for 11 years....
Her statement on Compromise was 'pretty good'!
Didn't she re-juvenite the UK....

**Bazeye** · 01-Dec-11, 03:42

Always hated her with a passion. Until Tony Blair.

**Corrie 3** · 01-Dec-11, 10:56

Originally Posted by sandyr1

Didn't she re-juvenite the UK....

No Sandy, she killed it!!
And we are still paying for it today!!

C3.......

**golach** · 01-Dec-11, 11:04

Sandy, she stole free milk from our school children and imposed the Poll Tax (now the Community Charge) and used Scotland as guinea pigs in 1989 before imposing the Poll Tax in England, that was her downfall. There is even talk of giving her a State Funeral, she was just a Prime Minister for goodness sake, not Royalty.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 11:11

Ooh Sandy, I got an infraction just for starting a thread with this title.....Trolling

**Corrie 3** · 01-Dec-11, 11:13

Originally Posted by ducati

Ooh Sandy, I got an infraction just for starting a thread with this title.....Trolling

I must admit Duke it is a pretty awful subject for a thread!!!

C3.............

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 11:13

I would really, really like someone to explain why they think poll tax is unfair?

It is still based on the value of property and has the added benefit of taking into account the number of earners in a home.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 11:15

Originally Posted by ducati

I would really, really like someone to explain why they think poll tax is unfair?

It is still based on the value of property and has the added benefit of taking into account the number of earners in a home.

And again, if it is so bad why was it never repealed?

**shazzap** · 01-Dec-11, 14:28

Originally Posted by ducati

And again, if it is so bad why was it never repealed?

Earners. No over 18s

**theone** · 01-Dec-11, 14:37

Many people remember Margaret Thatcher as some sort of ogre who took everything from everybody for no reason.

I've got a feeling our current leader will be left with the same label.

The fact is both of them had to make wholesale changes to the country following long periods of irresponsible Labour rule.

Labour were in power long enough to remove the poll tax if they wanted to. They didn't because they never had a better alternative. But Maggie will still get the blame.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 15:33

Originally Posted by shazzap

Earners. No over 18s

An over 18 is either working, in full time education or on benefits of some sort, so there is a class of payment or non payment to suit.

**shazzap** · 01-Dec-11, 15:48

Originally Posted by ducati

An over 18 is either working, in full time education or on benefits of some sort, so there is a class of payment or non payment to suit.

But a husband and wife, were both charged. Irrespective of whether both were working. We had one wage, 5 children and 2 Poll Tax bills.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 15:51

Originally Posted by shazzap

But a husband and wife, were both charged. Irrespective of whether both were working. We had one wage, 5 children and 2 Poll Tax bills.

And were the combined bills bigger than the rates?

**shazzap** · 01-Dec-11, 15:52

Originally Posted by ducati

And were the combined bills bigger than the rates?

Yes they were.

**Corrie 3** · 01-Dec-11, 15:56

I remember it well, overnight my rates bill went from £96 per annum to £390 for poll tax for 3 of us ! And people ask why I hate Thatcher?

C3..............

**shazzap** · 01-Dec-11, 16:04

Originally Posted by Corrie 3

I remember it well, overnight my rates bill went from £96 per annum to £390 for poll tax for 3 of us ! And people ask why I hate Thatcher?

C3..............

It was pay the Poll Tax, or starve the kids. You can hazzard a guess, at which one i didn't do.

**Dialyser** · 01-Dec-11, 16:07

Originally Posted by ducati

I would really, really like someone to explain why they think poll tax is unfair?

It is still based on the value of property and has the added benefit of taking into account the number of earners in a home.

As I recall it had no basis on the value of your property, everyone paid the same regardless of circumstance. In my case I turned 18 and had a 3month period with no income prior to moving away to start my nurse training...........I was still expected to pay the full rate for that year.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 16:50

What about me? I was living in my house on my own, 2 doors down were a large family with 5 big strapping sons running a dairy milk round business, 6 Earners, and I was expected to pay exactly the same rates, and let me tell you, in Cheshire it wasn't cheap, around about that time just before the poll tax it was more than a months wages. I don't call that fair.

**ducati** · 01-Dec-11, 16:51

Originally Posted by Corrie 3

I remember it well, overnight my rates bill went from £96 per annum to £390 for poll tax for 3 of us ! And people ask why I hate Thatcher?

C3..............

But that's fair, 3 consumers 3 charges.