Death of Democracy

[Sianymo]

(https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchange/Walterss/Inbox/Write%20to%20your%20MP.EML/#) The government is attempting to legislate away the right for changes in the law to be debated in Parliament

Read about it here: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/story/0,,1715467,00.html (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/story/0,,1715467,00.html)

A form letter to write to your MP can be found here: http://www.hoojum.com/LARRB/LARRB.html (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.hoojum.com/LARRB/LARRB.html)

Draw for yourself the parallels with Hitler's rise to power in the 30's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act#Passing_of_the_Enabling_Act (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act%23Passing_of_the_Enabling_Act)

Apologies for the blatant bit of politics, but I feel this is important.

[pultneytooner]

Scary stuff if you think of all the implications this could have.

[fred]

(https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchange/Walterss/Inbox/Write%20to%20your%20MP.EML/#) The government is attempting to legislate away the right for changes in the law to be debated in Parliament

Read about it here: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/story/0,,1715467,00.html (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/story/0,,1715467,00.html)

A form letter to write to your MP can be found here: http://www.hoojum.com/LARRB/LARRB.html (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.hoojum.com/LARRB/LARRB.html)

Draw for yourself the parallels with Hitler's rise to power in the 30's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act#Passing_of_the_Enabling_Act (https://webmail.rwenukem.co.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act%23Passing_of_the_Enabling_Act)

Apologies for the blatant bit of politics, but I feel this is important.


The links you gave don't work, they start with a webmail address.

Here are the correct links:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/constitution/story/0,,1715467,00.html
http://www.hoojum.com/LARRB/LARRB.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act

As you say, if not the death of democracy certainly a severe erosion which could provide a legal loophole big enough for Britain to become a dictatorship. I read the proposed bill a while back and while there do appear to be safeguards built in I saw no provision to prevent the act itself being altered without an act of parliament under the legislation it introduces so as to remove those safeguards.

[JAWS]

Welcome to my fantasy world! This is Britain, that sort of thing could never happen here. Well, that's what I keep being told!

Fred, I have to agree with you, the whole concept is fraught with danger and open to the possibility of abuse.

Rule by Dictat is something people fought against and disposed of long ago in these Islands. I thought we had got rid of that when we stopped believing in the Divine Right of Kings.

A Prime Minister has the right to surround himself with like minded people. The main restraint on them is that of the possibility of causing divisions within the MPs of a Government Party which may lead to a revolt against the PMs choice.
Once that restraint is removed PMs can surround themselves with people who have exactly the same ideas and can then enact any Legislation they wish with no regard to even their own MPs.

I know that from time to time I have insisted that the unthinkable was possible in some dim and distant future.
Even in my wildest dreams I never thought that such things would be given serious consideration at the present time.

[weefee]

mmmm big brother is upon us.... the thought police will be next....

[brokencross]

Sianymo
I thank you so very much for bringing this to our attention.

I for one will be looking more closely at this proposal and quizzing my MP. I know that small amendments to existing Parliamentary Bills can be made without any fuss by using "Statutory Instruments", but only small changes.

Jeepers, the more I think about it, the more annoyed I get, just who do this Government think they are, and especially after Loans for Peerages etc etc etc I have lost trust and faith in their ability to run the country. ( I do respect that most Labour MP's, in fact all MP's do work hard for the people they represent, it is certain members of the present leadership that have let power go to their heads and want to trample on the electorate while they have this power and certain people have a LEGACY agenda)

Please keep this thread going, or else we are going to be a police state, run by power mad people who have no real regard for public opinion, views and make the rules as they go to suit their whims and fancies. (or introduce new rules when they are caught out by the media)

Thanks one again, be careful though, they know who you are and where you are!!!!

[Sianymo]

Sianymo
I thank you so very much for bringing this to our attention.

I for one will be looking more closely at this proposal and quizzing my MP. I know that small amendments to existing Parliamentary Bills can be made without any fuss by using "Statutory Instruments", but only small changes.

Jeepers, the more I think about it, the more annoyed I get, just who do this Government think they are, and especially after Loans for Peerages etc etc etc I have lost trust and faith in their ability to run the country. ( I do respect that most Labour MP's, in fact all MP's do work hard for the people they represent, it is certain members of the present leadership that have let power go to their heads and want to trample on the electorate while they have this power and certain people have a LEGACY agenda)

Please keep this thread going, or else we are going to be a police state, run by power mad people who have no real regard for public opinion, views and make the rules as they go to suit their whims and fancies. (or introduce new rules when they are caught out by the media)

Thanks one again, be careful though, they know who you are and where you are!!!!


Cheers!
I am so sick and tired of this Government!! The Labour spin machine works well... so many times things have been rushed through whilst they refocus the attention of the media elsewhere. Bugs me!!!:evil

[badger]

Britain is run by a dictator and a few close cronies wanting to watch and interfere in every aspect of our lives. If they get ID cards and the proposed NHS national computer no-one will have any privacy.

This latest proposal must never be allowed. Thanks for the info.

[pultneytooner]

Britain is run by a dictator and a few close cronies wanting to watch and interfere in every aspect of our lives. If they get ID cards and the proposed NHS national computer no-one will have any privacy.

This latest proposal must never be allowed. Thanks for the info.

Passed by 310 votes to 279 votes.

A victory for the dictator in waiting, Tony Blair.