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Anyone had ear candling? Any good? I know there are web sites that claim they are a load of rubbish but that can be said fgor most things.
I've had it done a couple of times and it helped but I know of a couple of people that it didn't work for-it's a case of suck it and see.
The mind Boggles !!!
What on earth is Ear Candling??
Here's some info on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ear_candling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3DW_rw4Yjw
Sheesh!!! All I can say is.......That looks Horrific..... Even more so than some Horror Films........I do not think I will be getting that done to me any time soon.
A girl I work with has had it done, she found it helped with the wax etc.. odd sensation apparently.
I found this quote from the tinnitus message board of the RNID
I suffered from tinnitus for 6 years. I found great relief from Hopi Ear candling, It took away the tinnitus in 2 treatments and also cleared the dizziness I was experiencing.
Sue Bethell, Brecon, Powys
I had it done in India four or five years ago after a friend recommended it. It wasn't unpleasant. In fact, there was very little sensation during the process. Afterwards, the lady showed me the wax etc. that had been removed from my ears. Yuck! I always thought I was a clean person. Afterwards, I could hear everything ultra clearly for the rest of the day. I've never had any hearing problems, though, and so it is difficult to judge if it would help anyone who has.
I'm sorry - what an absolute load of 'shoe repairmen'! :lol:
I'm sorry - what an absolute load of 'shoe repairmen'! :lol:
Why knock something you obviously haven't tried? As I said in an earlier post, it worked for me though it didn't for a couple of others. It's the same with conventional medicines & treatments, they are designed as one size fits all but we know that isn't the reality-they don't suit everyone.
it's a case of suck it and see.
Um, no thanks eewwwww yuk
I tried this at home but had to stop as it turned out one of my cats was allergic to it!
She was rushed to the Vets with severe breathing problems on two consecutive Sunday mornings. The Vet was at a loss to understand what the problem was.
Then I realised that it happened after I had used Hopi Candles and when I stopped using them she was fine.:D
You can buy them online and they are easy to use at home as long as you have someone to help.
teenybash
10-Apr-09, 22:29
I wonder if all the extracated ear wax is used to make more candles................interesting thought....yeuk!!!:eek:
I wonder if all the extracated ear wax is used to make more candles................interesting thought....yeuk!!!:eek:
They're not actually made from wax Teenybash.:lol:
They are made from a type of paper impregnated with oils etc which burn down slowly.
I wonder if you can use ear wax in the same way as beeswax?!:confused Yeuk indeed!
mrsinkstack
10-Apr-09, 22:32
It's the same craic as the whole foot spa thing that is supposed to suck the 'impurities through your feet' ? How does that work then ? Thought that's what your kidneys do ?
Watched the Panorama programme that claimed the annodes in the foot spa reacted with the salts in the water to turn the water black and not the case of 'impurities' being sucked through your skin discolouring the water ? ! IE - it's a con !
It's the old placebo affect, if people think it's doing them good, obviously they'll feel more positive and then in turn feel better.
How can people getting relief from tinnitus etc be a placebo effect?
teenybash
10-Apr-09, 22:43
They're not actually made from wax Teenybash.:lol:
They are made from a type of paper impregnated with oils etc which burn down slowly.
I wonder if you can use ear wax in the same way as beeswax?!:confused Yeuk indeed!
I once heard of a man who saved up his ear wax and polished his car with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
I once heard of a man who saved up his ear wax and polished his car with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
Teeny you have been watchin far too much Father Ted! [lol]
I once heard of a man who saved up his ear wax and polished his car with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
Crikey he must have had a big wax problem!
Recycling at it's best eh?:lol:
mrsinkstack
10-Apr-09, 22:48
If it was a simple case of cleaning out your ear wax, thousands of people around the world, who suffer from Tinnitus could have a simple trip to the doc to have their ears syringed - wouldn't it ? Don't think it's as straight forward as that. I know a couple of people of who have suffered from Tinnitus and it's way more complex than just having an ear wax problem. I'm not sayng the hopi candles don't work but it's another one of these 'alternative remedies' that have no actual proof if they work or not, unlike conventional medical trials. It's down to the individual and what you take from it yourself ;)
Hopi candle aren't just for removing wax. http://www.hopiearcandles.org.uk/abouthopicandles.htm
I know about tinnitus as I have it. Thankfully quite mildly. Ear wax can exacerbate it though.
I agree that there are quite a few 'quack' therapies but not all complementary therapies have the 'placebo effect'.
If this was the case why do they work on animals?
Hopi candle aren't just for removing wax. http://www.hopiearcandles.org.uk/abouthopicandles.htm
I know about tinnitus as I have it. Thankfully quite mildly. Ear wax can exacerbate it though.
I agree that there are quite a few 'quack' therapies but not all complementary therapies have the 'placebo effect'.
If this was the case why do they work on animals?
I'm interested in your tinnitus as I have it and it's driving me mad! Have you tried any other remedies? I have been to the ENT specialist and was more or lest told to 'live with it' he didn't even examine my ears. I have recently bought a CD of white noise to play at bed times and I must say it does mask the ringing.
I am so sorry to hear that you have tinnitus Katarina as it is awful.
As I said I am lucky in that mine is mild and I am only really aware of it when it is silent. I do try to 'tune out' from it the best I can but it's not always easy is it? It's worse when there is a high pitched whistle!
Mine is probably due to many,many years of ear infections causing scarring. I soak cotton wool in Colloidal Silver and sleep with this in my ears every night and, touch wood, it is helping.
Crikey your ENT specialist isn't very helpful! Mind you neither was the one I went to. He told me there was nothing wrong with my ears!:roll:
I did find a website which had remedies for tinnitus. I will have a look again and get back with the address.
Here you go Katarina.http://www.sinuswars.com/tinnitus/index.asp
I am going to give it a go and also the sinus remedy as I have tried everything with little success.
I tried this at home but had to stop as it turned out one of my cats was allergic to it!
She was rushed to the Vets with severe breathing problems on two consecutive Sunday mornings. The Vet was at a loss to understand what the problem was.
Then I realised that it happened after I had used Hopi Candles and when I stopped using them she was fine.:D
You can buy them online and they are easy to use at home as long as you have someone to help.I imagine your cat was scared witless through having a lighted candle inserted in it's ear.:lol:
I imagine your cat was scared witless through having a lighted candle inserted in it's ear.:lol:
Could be!!!lol
Why knock something you obviously haven't tried? As I said in an earlier post, it worked for me though it didn't for a couple of others. It's the same with conventional medicines & treatments, they are designed as one size fits all but we know that isn't the reality-they don't suit everyone.
Hi, Joxville. Can I just ask your opinion of using crystals for healing and vacuum glasses for sucking toxins from the body?
Hi, Joxville. Can I just ask your opinion of using crystals for healing and vacuum glasses for sucking toxins from the body?
that's a new one on me. always willing to investigate anything new I am.
thanks for the ink Liz. I've found a new message board for sufferers of the dreaded T. because it's new there isn't many posting on it as of now. I want to support it, why don't you give it a go - and any other sufferers out there.
sorry for some reason I can't post the link will try later.
that's a new one on me. always willing to investigate anything new I am.
Both are currently in use by 'alternative' healers.
The former involves placing certain crystals on key areas of the body (some use heated stones as well - this I can believe in) and the latter is where you get specially shaped glasses (like a round tumbler), heat them up with a candle and then place them on the skin - when they cool down the air inside contracts and causes a low vacuum. This draws the skin up and supposedly sucks toxins out of the body. ;)
Both are currently in use by 'alternative' healers.
The former involves placing certain crystals on key areas of the body (some use heated stones as well - this I can believe in) and the latter is where you get specially shaped glasses (like a round tumbler), heat them up with a candle and then place them on the skin - when they cool down the air inside contracts and causes a low vacuum. This draws the skin up and supposedly sucks toxins out of the body. ;)
don't think I can get my head around the tumbler one. Kinda sounds like using leaches.
Especially for Katarina:
http://www.cuppingtherapy.org/images/closeup_glass.jpg
As you can see, the skin gets drawn up inside the jar as the air cools.
Take a look at: http://www.cuppingtherapy.org/?gclid=COaO-_qt6JkCFcQw3wodtWAjQw
oh well, you learn something new every day.
northener
11-Apr-09, 09:31
I have developed a new ear candle procedure that is guaranteed to remove ear wax, unwanted hair and facial blemishes.
Please PM me if you would like a session.
Hi, Joxville. Can I just ask your opinion of using crystals for healing and vacuum glasses for sucking toxins from the body?
Sorry, no can do-I'm too busy giving myself a frontal lobotomy. :eek:
Here you go Katarina.http://www.sinuswars.com/tinnitus/index.asp
I am going to give it a go and also the sinus remedy as I have tried everything with little success.
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http://www.tinnitustreatmentresults.com/
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Only one link showing but thanks Katarina.
I actually offer hopi candling as one of my therapies. I've seen people get real benefits with many conditions such as itchy ears, sinusitis and snoring among others. It is a really relaxing treatment and usually combined with a sinus drainage massage. In many countries where health care is privatised (ie you don't have to go for the cheapest option) - it is used as an alternative to syringing. The candles are actually made from hollow cotton tubes impregnated with beeswax and various herbs. I love the treatment personally and always know when my hubby needs his ears done because he starts snoring again :). It is also my little girls fav treatment.
How can people getting relief from tinnitus etc be a placebo effect?
Maybe it was all in their head...
:)
BMcGillivray
14-Apr-09, 15:01
Its important to note that these ear candles have nothing whatsoever to do with the Hopi native american tribe... the manufacturers of these Ear Candles have falsely attributed their products to the Hopi, to try to give the candles some kind of "ancient healing practice" type backing.
The Hopi Tribal Council has repeatedly stated that they have never practiced ear candling as a people, and has repeatedly demanded that the companies involved stop using their name in their branding.
As far as the candles themselves go, they do very little... the "ear wax" that can be seen inside the candle after the process, has been repeatedly determined to be nothing more than the wax/materials that the candle itself is made from... and with no earwax inside the candle, where exactly is the earwax going?
If you have/use ear candles, could you do a test for us.
Candle a) Go through normal process, inserting into ear, burn it, open it up, take a picture.
Candle b) Insert ear-end into a bowl of water, burn it, open it up, take a picture.
Candle c) Dont insert into anything, burn it, open it up, take a picture.
Or, if you dont want to go through the above (probably because of the cost of the ear candles), you can follow this link for results of that test.
http://www.randi.org/jr/02-02-2001.html
I never claim that earwax is removed by the treatment and held in the candle. The amount of residue in the candle can however reflect the amount of energy the candle has used to burn (ie if there is a blockage in the ear or impacted wax, the candle has to work harder to burn). What it does do is encourage vibration of the ear drum which opens up the tubes between the ear and the throat and the sinuses and encourages drainage - great for sinus pain and a 'blocked' feeling in the ears. It also warms the wax in the ears and speeds up the natural process whereby the earwax moves through the ear canal and is expelled - this is why I tell my clients that you will often find some wax in the outer ear the morning after.
In addition to this, each candle contains a particular blend of herbal extracts - most are anti-inflammatory so helping any inflammation or itching in the ears and others contain blends specifically for sinus problems (eg pine and eucalyptus), relaxation and many other things. There are many blood vessels in the ear allowing the herbal extracts to enter the blood stream easily.
As with all complimentary therapies, there will be people who believe and people who don't - I believe because I've seen the benefits consistently on those I've treated but I think people are right to investigate and form their own opinions.
it does soften the ear wax. after i had it done, i was able to remove a lot of wax from my ear myself with a cotton bud. It seemed to have risen to the opening of the ear and was easily removed. It's also very relaxing if nothing else. I will have it done again, although it did nothing for my tinnitus.
BMcGillivray
15-Apr-09, 13:11
I never claim that earwax is removed by the treatment and held in the candle. The amount of residue in the candle can however reflect the amount of energy the candle has used to burn (ie if there is a blockage in the ear or impacted wax, the candle has to work harder to burn).
It will be due to the amount of air the candle receives through the ear-end of the candle. The more snugly its fitted into the ear, the more "residue" in the candle.
What it does do is encourage vibration of the ear drum
"encourage" vibration? As in cause the ear drum to vibrate more than it usually does? This would cause everything to become louder, not to mention risking harm to the ear drum via excessive vibration if a loud noise was to be heard. How exactly does it achieve this "encouragement"?
which opens up the tubes between the ear and the throat and the sinuses and encourages drainage - great for sinus pain and a 'blocked' feeling in the ears. It also warms the wax in the ears and speeds up the natural process whereby the earwax moves through the ear canal and is expelled - this is why I tell my clients that you will often find some wax in the outer ear the morning after.
The tubes opening up will likely be due to the warmth and relaxation factor, the wax softerning will happen with any source of heat. You should be able to achieve this through a hot bath, or a hot water bottle. There are far safer methods than Ear candles.
In addition to this, each candle contains a particular blend of herbal extracts - most are anti-inflammatory so helping any inflammation or itching in the ears and others contain blends specifically for sinus problems (eg pine and eucalyptus), relaxation and many other things. There are many blood vessels in the ear allowing the herbal extracts to enter the blood stream easily.
You dont need a burning stick of cloth and beeswax in your ear to make use of the mentioned herbal extracts. Aren't most of those extracts accessible through things like aromatherapy etc? Also, the nose has even more accessible blood vessels for these "herbal extracts" to insert into the bloodstream... how about sticking one of these candles up a nostril? or in your mouth?
As with all complimentary therapies, there will be people who believe and people who don't - I believe because I've seen the benefits consistently on those I've treated but I think people are right to investigate and form their own opinions.
Yeah, its not going to be for everyone. I apologise if the above seems like im attacking you and your beliefs... i just take issue to people sticking long objects into their ears. The ear is a very sensitive thing, the ear drum especially, id no sooner suggest people try putting special candles into their ears than id suggest someone to poke themselves in the eyes repeatedly to improve their vision.
it does soften the ear wax. after i had it done, i was able to remove a lot of wax from my ear myself with a cotton bud. It seemed to have risen to the opening of the ear and was easily removed. It's also very relaxing if nothing else. I will have it done again, although it did nothing for my tinnitus.
Ive no doubt that it indeed softens the ear wax, being that the candle is burning, and heat melts wax. The relaxation factor is fine, but there are many many things that help relaxation out there that dont involve sticking objects in orifices. I have quite bad tinnitus from scarring of the ear drum, and i know that nothing will make it go away, there may be ways to temporarily relieve it, but its always going to be there.
can I just point out that the candle is not 'stuck in the ear' - it is indeed dangerous to insert objects into the ear - the candle rests on the outside of the ear canal, sealing off the end.
As I said - each to their own and I use them and recommend them because I KNOW from personal experience that they work for many complaints.
well i have to say this is a very interesting debate, thanks.
I have been having this treatment done every week for the last 4 weeks in the newly opened spa in Thurso,the reason for having it was i had severe sinusitis pain( which the doctor could not seem to clear up)along with earache in my right ear.. since Nov 08 , i have not suffered these symptoms again after my second treatment off....... Hopi candles ....
LIVE AND LET LIVE:lol:
I have had this in the past, a friend basically needed someone to practise on.
I expected nothing but was really impressed by how much sharper my hearing was plus a dizziness I sometimes get when getting out of the car vanished within two treatments.
I had suffered from this for years after a bad ear infection and was told by my GP and an ENT consultant there was nothing could be done.
I don't know how it worked but it did :)
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