View Full Version : Can you offer Peedie a home
Posted on behalf of labrador rescue caithness
Peedie is 6 months old today ( 8 July 08 ) She is looking for a new home through no fault of her own. She had very caring owners who loved her very much, however, due to a sad change of circumstances they were unable to give her the attention, stimulation and exercise required for a Labrador Retriever.
Peedie is vaccinated and wormed. She is also used to cats. She is presently being fostered by Labrador Rescue and living with another Labrador and a cat. The cat takes great pleasure in ruling both Labradors!
She is in lovely condition - IE - shiny coat, ideal weight for a Labrador and beautiful white teeth. Peedie is very typical of the Labrador breed - very loving, affectionate, biddable, eager to learn more, very obedient and needs to be stimulated.
Peedie positively thrives on human company ( as do all Labradors ) and is a very happy secure puppy. She walks well on lead and has a super recall. She is being given more training at the moment which she loves.
If you feel you could give Peedie a loving home and are prepared to continue her training please contact Carolyne Poulton 078450 10031 carolynepoulton@yahoo.com
NB - All prospective new owners will be thoroughly vetted, home checked and a Vets reference will be required.
Breeding from any rescued Labrador is not allowed and yearly vaccinations must be adhered to. Advice will be given on diet. Labrador Rescue keep in touch with all rescued Labradors for the remainder of their life and support is also given for life.
crustyroll
09-Jul-08, 14:08
It's sad that at 6 months of age Peedie is already needing a new home. However I would like to point out something that is not intended to cause offence to the members of Labrador Rescue, but the majority of the general public do not know this about Labradors.
At 6 months of age, Peedie should hardly be doing any walking at all, and I'm not being over cautious about this either. The majority of arthritis problems in Labradors are because they are exercised and walked at too young an age while their joints are growing. The bones do not harden in a Labrador until approximately 18 months of age and a lot of damage usually happens before the dog is 9 months old due to over exercise. Your statement "they were unable to give her the attention, stimulation and exercise required for a Labrador Retriever" is a little misleading as it implies that a Labrador needs a huge amount of exercise, yes, but only when they are at least 18 months old. Mental stimulation is far more tiring than physical stimulation and this comes from the well known dog trainer and behaviourist Mike Grantham!
I can see that Labrador Rescue is doing the job it set out to do, but I hope you can reassure me and the general public that correct information is being given out regarding Labrador puppies as they can have so many problems through mismanagement.
Labrador Rescue always make sure a new owner knows the do's and donts. A forum is not the place to list all the information that would be given to a prospective forever home. I'm sure Bill wouldn't be happy if all the bandwidth was taken up by big spiels in each rehoming appeal.
As exercise was third on the list after attention and stimulation I think that probably showed its importance.
Hope that sets your mind at rest :D
i hope a home is found for the dog :D
Oh dear Crustyroll you do seem to be barking up the wrong tree a little don't you!
We all know that it is not advisable to let a young dog of any kind do too much hard exercise, normal running and playing, walking and chasing aren't going to do any damage surely it is the reverse, it will help the little dog build up strong muscles and bone and stop it from becoming fat, the really big problem with labs.
Detection dogs of all sorts work from the age of about 12 months. Training for working trials takes many months of work and certainly starts very early much earlier that the 18 months you suggest as they can compete at that age. Slowly introducing a pup to exercise isn't going to hurt it.
Perhaps this is what you meant and just didn't phrase it properly.
crustyroll
09-Jul-08, 18:44
Veekay, see how a post can be misinterpretated???? Why am I barking up the wrong tree may I ask?
I'm not stupid and the fact that I own Labs and have done for years gives me a pretty good grounding in what I am talking about. I'm not out to cause hassle or take up loads of bandwith but unfortunately there ARE ignorant people out there that with a heart of gold, can still get it totally wrong with puppies.
Just because exercise was third on the list does not mean its clear and evident to any prospective owner out there about the pitfalls and that's all I was trying to point out as I found the post misleading. I don't think it's a bad thing just to check that any rescue home or centre know what they are talking about. Check out Labrador forums and see the hundreds of people on there that are having joint problems with their labs because they haven't been given the correct information.
Is it such a bad thing to ask a public question seeing as the dog is being advertised to the public?????
crustyroll
09-Jul-08, 18:47
A forum is not the place to list all the information that would be given to a prospective forever home.
Maybe a forum IS the right place to give information to people, how many hundreds, thousands even, read this forum?
Nope it isn’t a bad thing at all to ask a question but this is the problem when you type as opposed to talk, it can all become misconstrued. I would encourage anyone interested in Peedie or Lab Rescue Caithness to contact Carolyne direct, I am sure she would love to hear from you.
What I would say is that it is also the responsibility of a prospective owner to read up on a breed they wish to own, this can be done through various mediums including the internet or library. If people are competent enough to use this forum then they should be competent enough to browse other forums that specialise in giving information or they could just pick up the phone and ask Carolyne. Is it not better to give information to an interested audience than a general one?
This thread is about Peedie and Carolyne has worked her magic again and providing all goes well with a meet and greet she will be off to a loving and knowledgeable home.
good luck peedie..i hope this is ur forever home.
Veekay, see how a post can be misinterpretated???? Why am I barking up the wrong tree may I ask?
I'm not stupid and the fact that I own Labs and have done for years gives me a pretty good grounding in what I am talking about. I'm not out to cause hassle or take up loads of bandwith but unfortunately there ARE ignorant people out there that with a heart of gold, can still get it totally wrong with puppies.
Just because exercise was third on the list does not mean its clear and evident to any prospective owner out there about the pitfalls and that's all I was trying to point out as I found the post misleading. I don't think it's a bad thing just to check that any rescue home or centre know what they are talking about. Check out Labrador forums and see the hundreds of people on there that are having joint problems with their labs because they haven't been given the correct information.
Is it such a bad thing to ask a public question seeing as the dog is being advertised to the public?????
A couple of points. Surely the problems that owners are having with their dogs is mostly to do with the over production of sub standard puppies, the production of pups for money and feeding fads that lead to obesity that in turn lead to extra weight on joints.
If you are so worried about the problems of rehoming labs. Crustyroll, why don't you, as a breeder and owner of labs, contact Lab rescue and offer your expertise. Carolyne Poulton and Vanda Salmon are members of Lab rescue Scotland and Caithness working together for the Labrador club of Scotland as volunteers, they would am sure welcome all and any help.
I know Peedie will find a great home, Lab Rescue will make sure of it! They do a great job finding homes for unwanted dogs and we should encourage it.:)
neepnipper
10-Jul-08, 07:21
It would be more productive if people offered their support for rehoming instead of having a go, Carolyne & co at labrescue know exactly what they're doing and always make sure people are well aware of everything involved in rehoming a dog, including amount of exercise needed etc, they do a wonderful job and need encouragement and support and not made to look like they don't know what they are doing.
Back yard breeders, puppy farms, etc., do it for profit.
Rescue societies (and unfortunately there's one for every breed) do it for love of the dog.
Regarding exercise, there must be a misunderstanding on this thread. A very good friend of mine trains gundogs. At Peedie's age they would be going for walks and run about with the rest of the pack. A 6-month old would be getting basic training in very short spells commensurate with her age. It would not be out in the field all day, often in bad weather, on work days with the adult working dogs - of course that would be very injurious to a youngster. I think this is what Crustyroll is afraid might happen and, obviously, Peedie would go to a pet home and get pet-type exercise, which any 6-month old pup requires.
COmmon sense required, methinks. And a hug for Peedie.
crustyroll
10-Jul-08, 11:51
A couple of points. Surely the problems that owners are having with their dogs is mostly to do with the over production of sub standard puppies, the production of pups for money and feeding fads that lead to obesity that in turn lead to extra weight on joints.
If you are so worried about the problems of rehoming labs. Crustyroll, why don't you, as a breeder and owner of labs, contact Lab rescue and offer your expertise. Carolyne Poulton and Vanda Salmon are members of Lab rescue Scotland and Caithness working together for the Labrador club of Scotland as volunteers, they would am sure welcome all and any help.
Yep sub standard puppies are bred and usually for profit that I agree with.
I am not worried about the problems of rehoming my own labs as any pups I breed are given the guarantee that no matter what the problem or age, I will ALWAYS take the dog back. However I do worry about the amount of labs in rescue's and any other breed of dog.
I am a member of the Labrador Club of Scotland as well as the Scottish kennel Club and am in regular contact with committee members of the Lab Club where Vanda works.
As to giving my expertise to Carolyne and Lab Rescue, well I know her personally, as well as the members of the original Lab Rescue and I also know we don't agree on somethings, as all people do. This is not a personal attack on any member of Lab Rescue and I don't appreciate the comments that have been directed my way. I live and breathe Labradors as well as many other breeds and variety of animals whch I've had over the years. I'll stand up and shout to be heard if it gets the message across to just one person and saves the pain and misery that can be caused to any dog, I don't have to be a member of an organisation to do that.
I am far from perfect and my dogs can be brats at times and I have gotten it wrong but you have to ask questions and not be afraid to speak out if need be. I hope that Peedie does get a lovely new home and that Lab Rescue does thoroughly vet the new owners and advises accordingly on lifestyle. Just because it's a rescue organisation it doesnt mean it can't be open to scrutiny, after all we are dealing with animals lives here.
Yep sub standard puppies are bred and usually for profit that I agree with.
I am not worried about the problems of rehoming my own labs as any pups I breed are given the guarantee that no matter what the problem or age, I will ALWAYS take the dog back. However I do worry about the amount of labs in rescue's and any other breed of dog.
I am a member of the Labrador Club of Scotland as well as the Scottish kennel Club and am in regular contact with committee members of the Lab Club where Vanda works.
As to giving my expertise to Carolyne and Lab Rescue, well I know her personally, as well as the members of the original Lab Rescue and I also know we don't agree on somethings, as all people do. This is not a personal attack on any member of Lab Rescue and I don't appreciate the comments that have been directed my way. I live and breathe Labradors as well as many other breeds and variety of animals whch I've had over the years. I'll stand up and shout to be heard if it gets the message across to just one person and saves the pain and misery that can be caused to any dog, I don't have to be a member of an organisation to do that.
I am far from perfect and my dogs can be brats at times and I have gotten it wrong but you have to ask questions and not be afraid to speak out if need be. I hope that Peedie does get a lovely new home and that Lab Rescue does thoroughly vet the new owners and advises accordingly on lifestyle. Just because it's a rescue organisation it doesnt mean it can't be open to scrutiny, after all we are dealing with animals lives here.
All well said Crustyroll. This is what a forum is for.
Just because it's a rescue organisation it doesnt mean it can't be open to scrutiny, after all we are dealing with animals lives here.
Off course all rescues should run an open book and Labrador Rescue does.
Carolyne does not post here, hence my posting Penny and Peedie on her behalf.
Whatever specific information you want then just pick up the phone and ask, and if you feel the need then you can post her reply here. You mention knowing Carolyne personally so why can’t just ask her?
To all other readers of this thread, if you have any general enquiries or are interested in re-homing a labrador (and sometimes fake labradors) please don’t hesitate to contact Carolyne on the number given at the start of this thread.
What started or at least the way I read it started as an attempt to find a home for a young lab seems to have turned into an underhand attack on the ladies ( sorry if there are blokes too) who do such a great job of rehoming dogs. I am not sure that the org is a place for personal digs and jibes.
Lab rescue like all these rehoming groups do sterling work it is just a shame people breed or buy pups unwisely, don't get proper training etc. and that there are so many to be rehomed.
neepnipper
11-Jul-08, 09:47
It's sad that at 6 months of age Peedie is already needing a new home. However I would like to point out something that is not intended to cause offence to the members of Labrador Rescue, but the majority of the general public do not know this about Labradors.
At 6 months of age, Peedie should hardly be doing any walking at all, and I'm not being over cautious about this either. The majority of arthritis problems in Labradors are because they are exercised and walked at too young an age while their joints are growing. The bones do not harden in a Labrador until approximately 18 months of age and a lot of damage usually happens before the dog is 9 months old due to over exercise. Your statement "they were unable to give her the attention, stimulation and exercise required for a Labrador Retriever" is a little misleading as it implies that a Labrador needs a huge amount of exercise, yes, but only when they are at least 18 months old. Mental stimulation is far more tiring than physical stimulation and this comes from the well known dog trainer and behaviourist Mike Grantham!
I can see that Labrador Rescue is doing the job it set out to do, but I hope you can reassure me and the general public that correct information is being given out regarding Labrador puppies as they can have so many problems through mismanagement.
I find your comment about rehoming a pup at 6 months old a little hypocritical seeing as not so long ago you had for sale a 6 month old pup that was not up to show standard, constructive critisism is fine but I feel that your critisism of lab rescue is totally unjustified, the original post was to find a forever home for a young lab and your comments are totally unjustified.
I have spoken to the vet who has said that the main cause of joint problems in Labradors is bad breeding and bad diet. He could not find anything on joint problems associated with on exercise, probably because it is common sense. I am sure as a professional he would be interested in reading any medical reports that other may be aware of.
A puppy needs to have exercise in order to build muscle, the amount should be a gradual increase. A puppy is not unlike a toddler, you don't expect them to start walking one day and mountain climbing the next.
Larger dogs take longer to mature and hence the exercise needs to be built up over their period of maturing. This information is freely available to anyone willing to look, I found it when researching my breed of dog that I got eight years ago.
l feel that this thread has been little about Peedie and more about pettiness, I am not comfortable with subtle attempts to besmirch a rescue, so I will close it. I am quite sure that someone wishes to generate another thread they can do.
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