View Full Version : Naked Rambler
Did anyone watch the proggrame last night about him and his girl/s i did not find it offensive as some the people he was meeting thought.The last time he passed Wick he got a very large warm welcome.What do you all think?
Naefearjustbeer
30-Nov-05, 01:54
Let him lash at it I have no problem with him wanting to wander around naked. The police and courts should ignore him and concentrate on real criminals.
i think he is very brave. i dont think he is offensive, he is just standing up for his rights. i dont find it annoying, the only annoying thing is i have never seen him on the wick-Inverness road!!! i will keep looking and put a photoe on here if i see him!!!!!
I think he's horrible. He has a fat gut and I don't want either myself or my children to see his willy wonka when I'm taking them to school thank you very much.
Fran, you must be desperate if you want to see this man naked.
Fran::Will not see him on A9/96 as he got 3 months at HMP in Inverness 2 weeks ago. What a shame
It's not a shame at all. Have you seen him? He is shrivelled like a dead chicken's skin and I'm not telling you which part I'm talking about. I'm glad he's in jail. I think he should suffer what porshiepoo wants to do to those sex offenders. He's a right perv and I don't want him near either me or my children, ever.
Who has rights to wander about naked? I don't want to see any of you naked in the street. Unless it's freezing and you get what you deserve lol.
Crayola:: Just what are you trying to Imply that I go around naked..... Wrong.
All i was saying that i did not find it offencive, yes i have seen him on TV tonite, obviously you have seen him up very close( maybe inperson) as you have such a good description of him.
What is he a shrivelled up chicken or has got fat guts.
moonshadow
30-Nov-05, 03:29
I just think its sad in this day and age that because you dont like the idea that someone wishes to walk around naked - the natural way, you start throwing out irresponsible accusastions of someone whom you have no real knowledge of being a pervert.
We come into this world naked, and we'll go out in the same way, so I see nothing wrong with the human body.
It's a shame that opinions and judgements about appearance are in fact proving the need for someone to meet these attitudes head on, even by walking around naked! I would far rather children grew up without being made to feel repressed or ashamed in the naked body like some who obviously do.
It's only a big deal if you make it one.
Karaoke Queen
30-Nov-05, 07:53
Well said Crayola!
I find this man and his antics disgusting! As did his wife and he is now no longer allowed to see his kids. He was given the choice by her to stop stripping off because it was offending her and so many other people. Friends wouldn't let their kids come to the house for god sake! Yet he choose to dump his kids for this perverted behaviour!
Don't tell me thats normal!
What has he done wrong he has'nt killed anyone and how is he a prev ? He is just sticking up for what he believes in and whats wrong with that. I for one hope he makes it to John o groats if i see him i will cheer him on. Oh and fran if i do see him and have my camera with me i will let you know.
Karaoke Queen
30-Nov-05, 11:34
Perhaps you should go look in the dictionary Krieve. I said Pervert NOT child abuser!
We all have our beliefs but we dont all go to perverted (in my opinion) extremes like that.
I think he's horrible. He has a fat gut and I don't want either myself or my children to see his willy wonka when I'm taking them to school thank you very much.
We don't want to view his chocolate factory either!
Perhaps you should go look in the dictionary Krieve. I said Pervert NOT child abuser!
We all have our beliefs but we dont all go to perverted (in my opinion) extremes like that.
I don't think you should go around quoting the dictionary when you can not even read. Krieve did'nt even mention abuse in his posting.
Thanks for opinion Krieve
Karaoke Queen
30-Nov-05, 13:31
Her post did indeed mention child abuse! I see it has been edited out now!
Nice one Krieve!
I can read perfectly well thank you, so get your facts right in future!
Sorry did'nt know it was edited
Karaoke Queen
30-Nov-05, 14:00
Apology accepted :)
you are write i did edit it because it did'nt sound write what i put but what harm is he doing let him ramble
I watched it last night, i think if he want's to walk from Lands End to John'O'Groats naked then good for him, although i think he should cover up certain parts when walking in towns, especially when they stopped at pubs for lunch there was young kids there i don't think that's right.
Rural Ramblings indeed exist in this thread. The question is; Will he be allowed to wander round the cell-block in his birthday suit? He's a braver man than me "Gunga Din".
One must also appreciate that some people seem to want to be famous for more than their alloted 5 minutes in life, and at the end of the day, he's certainly getting that. More than likely they will be doing a TV series on him when he is released.
Ciao,
Dave the Rave :cool:
RandomHero
30-Nov-05, 16:25
I'm not offended by it but I just wonder what he is trying to acheive from it. You can say it's perfectly natural but it's not anymore. We wear clothes now. It's all about evolution.
He sounds like a rather shallow, self-centred and self-obsessed man to me. Does he really not have anything better to do than to wander about the country naked, and trying to convince others that we want to do the same? As dpw39 says, he's had a lot more than his 5 minutes of fame, and I would say he doesn't deserve any more. But I don't really want to lock him up because it's a waste of resources and it feeds his evident love of publicity. :confused:
There's nothing wrong with a good dose of nudity here and there, public or otherwise, but society expects it to be in appropriate places. I've spent a bit of time working in Germany over the years, and it can be very pleasant taking a stroll through the park at lunchtime in the summer. But, like geezer (if I've read him correctly), I don't want nudity thrust in my face in town, in shops, or in restaurants and pubs by a selfish man (or woman!) who's trying to make what he thinks is a high-faluting point. :rolleyes:
Here's an excerpt from some of his written ramblings (http://www.fruitnut.net/html2/73Rambler.htm):
I'm like anyone: I want to be loved. As children the approval of our parents and significant others are tantamount to our survival: we will do anything to be loved, including give ourselves up. As adults the approval of others is less critical, although, still one of the most powerful of forces (just start looking at why you do things and you will see how high up the agenda pleasing others is in your motives). For me the connectedness I have experienced with myself, has acted as a countermeasure to my dependence on others for my approval of myself as a human being. It's not that I don't want approval from others, I still do, but it's not at any cost. I've come to realise, that if the words 'be true to yourself' are to mean anything, then one can't go around asking everyone "how would you like me to be"? One has to just do it and accept the risk that some people might not approve, or face the bigger consequence of not being connected to yourself, and the more I've experienced this connectedness the more important it has become in my life.
This may paint a picture to some people of an attitude of not caring about others, but how can one care about others if one cannot care for oneself? If I can't stand by myself to be all that I am and can be, then how can I give others the freedom to do the same? If I am not for me then who will be? My own experience is if I do something out of obligation or guilt then I feel resentful which eats away at relationships eventually destroying any love that was there. And if you take a look at society there's plenty of evidence of the resentment people have as it manifests itself in the form of anger and destruction. I believe that if I act according to what's best for me and in so doing I harm others, the mistake is not in putting myself first but in misunderstanding what's best for me.
So, my naked activism is firstly and most importantly about me standing up for myself, a declaration of myself as a beautiful human being, an expression of my ok-ness in the face of so much self hate, and I invite others to join me in celebrating this, in a show of solidarity of what it means to be a human being not ashamed of ourselves in our most natural state.
A beautiful human being? Hmm, he may have walked off his belly, but I think crayola has a point about his shrivelled-up chicken skin.
It's self-obsession and self-publicity indeed, intermingled with a pile of pretentious poo. I don't think his tactics go down very well with people with young kids either. A spell in the army is what he needs. Send him to the marines -- they'd know how to deal with him. Hmm, on second thoughts, maybe that's where he picked up his nutty ideas in the first place...
Yep, there's nothing wrong with nudity, at an appropriate time and place. If I had young kids, I certainly wouldn't want them exposed to this guy's naked exposure of himself! He may not be a pervert, but he's certainly an exhibitionist! He should try his naked ramblings somewhere like Maine, in the dead of winter, where's there's plenty of snow, ice and subfreezing temperatures. A good dose of frostbite might bring him to his senses!
Well one things for sure hes picked the wrong time of year for doing that.
Personnally it doesnt bother me but he doesnt take into account other peoples views who might be offended by seeing him which is wrong in his part and very inconsiderate and strikes me as a bit of a pervert.I think he should be locked up because he has to abide within the law the same as everyone else.
I think that this guy should be allowed to do what he wants provided it does not cause offenc to others. Clearly from the comments in this topic he is causing offence though and it is a shame that he cannot see this and continues to fly the flag of it is my freedom. A community is based on the good of the group, not the good of the individual.
If he was to walk around fully clothed but shouting abuse at people, which is basically the same expression of freedom then I am sure he would get far fewer people on his side.
Tugmistress
30-Nov-05, 23:14
why are some people so ashamed of the human body? we all have one. we are what we are. in my humble opinion the guy is doing no one any harm. are people so prudish about watching the naked and half naked native african tribes on telly?
He can do what he wishes as long as it doesn't cause offence. People find some people with their bits swinging about offensive therefore he will always cause offence to some people. He needs to grow up but I really don't care. I'm guessing if you have an 8 year old daughter or son you may be slightly more concerned about an old man with his tackle out!
I think if people would just let him get on with is journey and get to john'o groats we would probably never see or hear of him again. He just want to be free .
I think I might just join him one of this days. Nothing beats walking about in the skud.......
I also know wee man thats wants to join the rambler when he comes out of prison . choc a block 5 lol
I also know wee man thats wants to join the rambler when he comes out of prison . choc a block 5 lolGet choc a block 5 to give me a shout. We dont need to wait on the naked rambler, we can go on one of our own jaunts if he wants........
exactly caithpal, i don't care if he's walking naked but some thought should be given to children, imagine eating out with a 6 year old child and he walk's in with his dangling bit's, is there many going to say they don't mind their child being exposed to that??
:confused: to astra-- who is choc a block 5???
I will let him know and get him to give u a shout when he's ready to set off . I can see that turning a few heads . lol
Thanks Astra I imagine we'll have a few laughs on the way........
Why do u want to join there walk to geezer. If u ask fed ex he mite tell u were there going to meet up and start there walk .
Why do u want to join there walk to geezer. If u ask fed ex he mite tell u were there going to meet up and start there walk .Fed-ex is a girlie thats why i want to join the walk with all you boyos......
Why do u want to join there walk to geezer. If u ask fed ex he mite tell u were there going to meet up and start there walk .
i don't think so!!
i only asked who choc a block 5 was, wish i never bothered
Sorry fed-ex my mistake .
Any one else wanting to join the walk .
Don't worry Astra ........ An easy mistake to make ...........I suppose.
U will find out if u join the walk
Christ, some of you folk are so uptight! So the guy want to wander around naked, big deal! There's far more pressing and worrying matters in this world than some guy who likes to be naked - like the day he entered this world!
If it has repercussions on his family life so be it, it's his choice to make. He's not a child abuser, he's not a peadophile and he's not a pervert. What's the big deal? Maybe some of you are too uptight with the human body.
If he's willing to go to jail for a period of time (albiet short) for something he believes in then that almost comendable.
In fairness though, you wouldn't want someone sit at the table next to you in café if you've got kids around. Though there's far worse out there!
A community is based on the good of the group, not the good of the individual.
I wasnt sure what to think about this one. I can agree with both sides. Theres a part of me is as repulsed as crayola or as blunt as DrSzin but theres another part that says some of his ramblings are not without foundation.
Im sure hes all the things hes accused of though and I would rather not see him walking through the precinct like a skinned turkey.
Lock him up until he decides to change his tact. He can discover himself without insulting others.
i missed that programme, but i do remember him passing through caithness but as far as i remember he took all the back roads avoiding wick town centre.
Although he did get a good reception a groats, as far as im concerned every man has a right to show his own freedom,
but not in front of kids.
When did he pass through Wick then??
Has he done this more than once if hes locked up?? After last nights programme I was under the impression that was his first time?
I personally have no problems with what he is doing however im not very sure I would like my kids to meet him!!
When did he pass through Wick then??
This is his second time and i am pretty sure he did come as far as wick then police escorted him in the car through town and dropped him off on the Reiss road that was some 2-3 years ago and he did complete his journey.
Hmmm! he will be due out of prison soon if i am right just before christmas, let's hope we've plenty of snow think of how cold he will, ffrreezzzzzzzing.
Who fancy's cooking christmas dinner for him then?
[quote=a.smith
Who fancy's cooking christmas dinner for him then?[/quote] I hear that choc a block 5 sent him letter inviting him round for xmas dinner
He should have some thought for the young children he is passing on his naked travel's.
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 00:55
It is no wonder this country has problems with sexual health and teenage pregnancies with sexually repressed views like this passed onto the kids. Does being naked make you a pervert? NO With things like this which has absolutely nothing sexual or perverted being condemned it is no wonder that kids keep quiet and don't ask mum and dad for advice about things and end up learning the hard way with a trip to the clinic.
Imagine the scene
Hey mum why is that man naked over there?
its because he is a sick paedophile pervert and should be locked up dear!!
oh thinks the girl better not tell mum or ask advice about what my boyfriend and I want to do.
Imagine this alternate answer
Oh i am not sure why he is naked, maybe he just likes the fresh air. Hes not harming anyone though.
Girl thinks its natural to be naked sometimes and has no worries about discussing that she wants to get naked with her boyfriend. This is where mum can discuss contraception ,STD, HIV the law etc.
After the first response the girl wont mention a thing to mum just in case the boyfriend gets locked up for being a deviant for wanting a physical relationship.
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 01:12
He should have some thought for the young children he is passing on his naked travel's.
now that would make him a risk. Wandering around naked thinking about young children.!!!
porshiepoo
04-Dec-05, 01:18
I get the being naked when you're in your own space, but why would someone want to walk from land's end to john o groats naked? He obviously knew what kind of reaction he would get and yes, I understand he feels he has a right to be naked but we also have a right to not be subject to seeing it.
I personally don't think any of it was about him standing up for what he thought was his right. Just like some of the pervs out there he actually got a kick out of seeing the reaction that showing his bits and bobs got.
Although I don't think out jails need to be filled with nonsense crimes, I for one think he deserves it.
Bring out the house bricks eh Crayola!
Can you fill me in on why this guy is actually doing it???? I have ignored everything about him so have absolutely no idea what statement he is trying to make!!! naefearjustbeer I see your point but I dont WANT my daughter going out naked!!! so if I told her it was ok for him and in 10 years time she does it how can I say no eek!!
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 01:23
so are naturists pervy? or is that ok. Right place right time sort of thing with like minded souls.
I rekon he'll be quite happy as long as people find him worth even talking about. I think leave him alone to get it over and done with so that we can all forget bout him............
Porshipoo why dont you finish the walk off for him and come back and tell us what reaction you get .
porshiepoo
04-Dec-05, 01:29
Unless I'm mistaken, naturists usually confine themselves to naturist resorts. They don't expose themselves to all and sundry whether we like it or not. If we choose not to see it we stay away from naturist resorts but we shouldn't have to put up with the likes of naked ramblers exposing themselves.
The fact is that to the majority of us this just isn't acceptable behaviour. Yes we are born naked but we spend out lives outside our own homes in clothes.
To feel that you should have the right to be naked is one thing but flaunt that right infront of children is perverted. He has not taken into account the feelings of concerned parents etc, not even the concerns and warnings of his own wife and children.
This wasn't about rights, this was about exposing himself and hiding behind words to get away with it.
I wonder if he's naked in jail?
If he is naked in jail he is a really brave lad ouch!!!!
Nobodys mentioned the distraction to drivers when they are passing him either...........?? Surely he's bound to be a danger on motorways and busy roads..
porshiepoo
04-Dec-05, 01:33
If he is naked in jail he is a really brave lad ouch!!!!
Hahahaha, I'd be suprised if he is. lol.
If he's not doesn't it just prove that it wasn't about his rights?
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 01:34
well I am not saying it should be encouraged. I dont want my daughter to do it either. Even though she was running around dornoch beach naked* in the summer. I just think it is not that bad what he is doing, He is not hurting anyone he is not forcing people to look at him. Do you stare at every walker you see? probally not so why should this guy walking attract anything more than a passing glance (as every driver should be aware of pedestrians). Why waste tax payers money arresting him taking him to court and locking him up. Maybe if he is an attention seeker he will stop if eveyone decides to ignore him. If he is doing it because he genuinely enjoys the willie shrinking scottish weather then he will get peace to enjoy himself. Instead of being harrased by sexually repressed PC busy bodies and the police and the courts can get on with catching real crooks.
(*well she is only a wee bairn.)
edited spelling
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 01:41
Nobodys mentioned the distraction to drivers when they are passing him either...........?? Surely he's bound to be a danger on motorways and busy roads..
now if it was a well endowed female I could see your point I thought the wonderbra billboards caused increased accidents when they were erected.
porshiepoo
04-Dec-05, 01:46
[quote=Naefearjustbeer]well I am not saying it should be encouraged. I dont want my daughter to do it either. Even though she was running around dornoch beach naked* in the summer. I just think it is not that bad what he is doing, He is not hurting anyone he is not forcing people to look at him. Do you stare at every walker you see? probally not so why should this guy walking attract anything more than a passing glance (as every driver should be aware of pedestrians). Why waste tax payers money arresting him taking him to court and locking him up. Maybe if he is an attention seeker he will stop if eveyone decides to ignore him. If he is doing it because he genuinely enjoys the willie shrinking scottish weather then he will get peace to enjoy himself. Instead of being harrased by sexually repressed PC busy bodies and the police and the courts can get on with catching real crooks.
Think that depends on what kind of attention seeker he is. If he's the kind that gets a kick out seeing fear or shock on little kids faces (and I sadly have experience of one such pervert) then he should be locked up.
Naefearjustbeer
04-Dec-05, 01:51
by attention seeker I meant enjoying the attention of the papers and TV even the court appearances, Not the "Flasher" shock tactics that I think you are talking about and i honestly think that this rambler is not doing it to harm kids. If I drove past him or walked past him with my 4 year old daughter I am sure she would ask why the man was naked, I dont think she would be scared i think she might even giggle. I would tell her that the man just enjoys being naked outside in the fresh air, I would explain that most people wear clothes outside and it wasnt the norm. But I certainly wouldnt demonise the man.
How ever if some one deliberatley exposed them selves to her in a flasher situation. Which i think is done in a way to highlight your sexual organs so that the flasher could get a kick out of it I would be telling her something different. And the flasher had better hope that the police get him first before I catch him with 2 bricks and a rope
I get the being naked when you're in your own space, but why would someone want to walk from land's end to john o groats naked? He obviously knew what kind of reaction he would get and yes, I understand he feels he has a right to be naked but we also have a right to not be subject to seeing it.
I personally don't think any of it was about him standing up for what he thought was his right. Just like some of the pervs out there he actually got a kick out of seeing the reaction that showing his bits and bobs got.
Although I don't think out jails need to be filled with nonsense crimes, I for one think he deserves it.
Bring out the house bricks eh Crayola!
Yay Porshie, do I get to go first? Please? He wouldn't be so keen to dangle his bits & bobs in public after they've been squashed flat.
You're right, he's a perv. Just look at that look in his eyes (http://www.fruitnut.net/People/Naked_Rambler_5.jpg).
The idea of this man wandering about naked amongst our children sickens me. He's an attention seeking sicko. He should be locked up naked, the heating turned off, and the key thrown away.
i'll be cheering him on anyway:eek:
porshiepoo
04-Dec-05, 11:37
Yay Porshie, do I get to go first? Please? He wouldn't be so keen to dangle his bits & bobs in public after they've been squashed flat.
You're right, he's a perv. Just look at that look in his eyes (http://www.fruitnut.net/People/Naked_Rambler_5.jpg).
The idea of this man wandering about naked amongst our children sickens me. He's an attention seeking sicko. He should be locked up naked, the heating turned off, and the key thrown away.
Too true Crayola!
Naefearjustbeer wrote
How ever if some one deliberatley exposed them selves to her in a flasher situation. Which i think is done in a way to highlight your sexual organs so that the flasher could get a kick out of it I would be telling her something different. And the flasher had better hope that the police get him first before I catch him with 2 bricks and a rope
What makes a flasher situation different to what he's done? He might not be doing it in such a frightening manner, but that doesn't make it any better. He gets his jollies from the reaction exposing himself gets. He knew what he was doing before he started, he knows it's not acceptable to the majority of people but still he does it. If it was to prove a point (pardon the pun) then he'd be sitting in jail now naked but I bet he's not insisting on his rights to it in there.
My theory still stands for me. He's a perv who is getting kicks from exposing himself to everyone and hides behind it being his right.
If I saw him on his naked trips, I'd stand and laugh and point - alot! Something I wish I'd done many years ago instead of screaming and giving the pervert the reaction he got off on.
A lot of people on here are happy for the NR to wander around starkers as long as he's not near their children. Well, he's always going to be near somebody's children, so he shouldn't be allowed to do it at all.
Karaoke Queen
04-Dec-05, 19:27
Absolutely! Well said Crayola and Poshiepoo!
You should'nt judge a book by it's cover .
I agree with you mr bean. How can you say that someone looks like a pervert...... Has he ever actually been charged with being a perv. Leave the man alone to do what he wants........if he was young and gorgeous I bet you wouldn't complain then..
Well porshiepoo what would you say if it was a famous person such as george clooney or brad pitt or some other famous person you admirer . What would your OPINION be then ?
SandTiger
05-Dec-05, 02:12
A lot of people on here are happy for the NR to wander around starkers as long as he's not near their children. Well, he's always going to be near somebody's children, so he shouldn't be allowed to do it at all.
Go get him babes...
porshiepoo
05-Dec-05, 09:30
Well porshiepoo what would you say if it was a famous person such as george clooney or brad pitt or some other famous person you admirer . What would your OPINION be then ?
Highly unlikely eh?
FYI I'd feel the same, maybe even a little bit worse because they're in influential positions.
Fed-Ex, I'm not saying he looks like a pervert, I'm saying that I think he is a pervert.
This sicko knows what reaction his naked rambling would provoke, along the way he's probably been screamed at and yes, has very likely upset youngsters that have come across him.
The manner in which he exposes himself is not what makes him a sicko, it's the fact that he does it knowing that kiddies and old people are going to see him. Sick, sick, sick!
How many of you that have childhood memories of being flashed at, actually agree with what he did? The pervert that flashed at me and my friend when we were about 10 was not agressive in any way but it wasn't any the less frightening, and it left enough of an impact that 4 years later when I was out riding my pony I reognised him near some woods, and guess what! A little way further was a girl crying because he'd done it again.
I'm not saying that this rambler behaved in the same way as your average flasher but his motives behind it were exactly the same. He got a kick out of exposing himself but protected himself with 'It's my right to be naked'.
Don't think for one minute that just because he doesn't fit 'our' profile of a flasher that he's any the less dangerous, to me that makes him more dangerous.
porshiepoo as you are always on about your opinion is'nt the naked rambler entitled to his opinion and whether you think he is right or wrong its up to him what he does with his life. Nobody tells you what you should do with your life why should he be any different.
Porsheipoo he doesn,t stand in dark alleys nor does he hang about parks or woodlands spying on people or young childerns were do u see him as a perv .All the wants to do is walk freely from lands end to john o groats in what he feels comfortable no one tells you what to do.So why don,t u all just get on with it .
porshiepoo
05-Dec-05, 21:29
[
quote=krieve]porshiepoo as you are always on about your opinion is'nt the naked rambler entitled to his opinion and whether you think he is right or wrong its up to him what he does with his life. Nobody tells you what you should do with your life why should he be any different.[/QUOTE]
Your right, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But an opinions one thing, exposing yourself is another, and it's not an opinion. It's pervertion!
In his opinion he thinks there is nothing wrong with what he is doing it is his choice.If he wants to walk around naked it is up to him just because he wants to walk from lands end to john o groats in his birthday suit does'nt make him a perv.
Porsheipoo he doesn,t stand in dark alleys nor does he hang about parks or woodlands spying on people or young childerns were do u see him as a perv .All the wants to do is walk freely from lands end to john o groats in what he feels comfortable no one tells you what to do.So why don,t u all just get on with it .
good point mr bean, i don't see the naked rambler as a pervert that's ridiculos, he just wants to walk naked from land ends to john'o'groats, my point in an earlier post was out of respect for young children he should of covered up certain parts when passing through towns and eating in public bars.
Perverts wear clothes they flash from behind objects or just when they are walking past you.
Never seen a naked pervert before!!!!and if he was a pervert like porshiepoo insists he is, in the documentary shown on tv did he hesitate at all passing the school, linger so the kids cheering him on could get a good view, NO.
So true mr bean and geezer he is no perv
So true mr bean and geezer he is no perv
Perv he ain't, i think a particular person likes to voice her opinion to much, so annoying.
I've never yet come across a naked perv either. I have come across many a fully clothed perv though.....
I've never yet come across a naked perv either. I have come across many a fully clothed perv though.....
exactly fed-ex there are many fully clothed perv's in this world, can't say naked ones though and it is hard to tell who is a perv unless you've seen them do something.
Caithness is a small community do we know how many perv's there are no!! we have so many incomers settling here we don't know their previous lifes do we! to suggest the naked rambler is a perv is utter nonsense just someones ranting opinion again. yawn, yawn, yawn.
Naefearjustbeer
05-Dec-05, 22:50
My view of what a pervert is, It is someone who feels they have to hide or repress the sexual urges they have. By repressing and hiding them the need or urge will build up until they act on those urges. Those urges may vary from flashing people to sexually abusing or even killing. Maybe some people have some urges that are not illeagal for example wearing rubber gear but because of a repressed upbringing they feel perverted about it and that is wrong. The person that enjoys rubber gear and is quite happy with the habit does not feel like a pervert. Why should one person feel bad about what is not a "Bad" thing.
Some one who is happy with the human body and able to quite happily wander about naked to my mind does not think walking around naked is wrong and has no indecent thoughts about what they are doing. Does wandering around the privacy of your own house naked make you feel guilty? If so why? everyone has a body they come in many different shapes and sizes. If your kids spot you nipping to the toilet naked do you run and hide? or do you carry on what you were doing? What opinion will they make about nudity if you run and hide?
The kids getting frightened by the rambler (if there are any that is) are only frightened because of the way they have been brought up. That is not the ramblers problem it is insecurities in society that says naked is wrong.
Have a look at other cultures some do not have the same views about breasts and women walk around quite happily with a naked upper body. Apart from the weather what stops that in this country? A different attitude thats what. Also some tribes the men walk around exposed have you ever read the National Geographic magazine or is that pornographic? and only pervs look at naked pictures.
porshiepoo
05-Dec-05, 23:55
The point is, we'll never know. Just because he hasn't shown behaviour that we would normally find indicitive of a pervert does not mean that he doesn't get some kind of perverted pleasure from exposing himself.
I don't have any problem at all with him being comfortable with being naked, but to the majority of people it's just not acceptable behaviour. Whether that is wrong or right isn't the issue really.
What about those of us that don't want to happen upon a naked rambler with our children? Why should we have to avoid places where he might be? Why can't he just put a pair of shorts on? I know that negates his issues in the first place but pleeeaaase, cover it up!
Don't suppose any one knows yet if he is naked in jail???
If he isn't doesn't that just tell you something?? I bet he's not and I bet he's not forcing the issue neither.
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 00:05
I like swimming it doesnt mean I want to go swimming with sharks :)
No-one knows if he is naked in jail, maybe he is forcing the issue if its all for perverted pleasure like you think, if you feel so strongly against him are you going to let your scooby doo's loose on him when he walks through Lybster then??
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 00:11
I like swimming it doesnt mean I want to go swimming with sharks :)
But the whole point to this mans naked rambling (apparantly) is that he feels he has a right to be naked all the time.
Why should jail be any different then?
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 00:13
No-one knows if he is naked in jail, maybe he is forcing the issue if its all for perverted pleasure like you think, if you feel so strongly against him are you going to let your scooby doo's loose on him when he walks through Lybster then??
Some how I don't think he'll get much pleasure from a great hulking convict learing at his meat and two veg, but then again, you never know. lol.
I wouldn't want my danes to choke on him.
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 00:20
Why can't he just put a pair of shorts on? I know that negates his issues in the first place but pleeeaaase, cover it up!
I supose his issue is the issues of the the complainers, Would you expect an african man or woman to cover up in africa? I hope your answer is no
Would the african man or woman understand what is wrong with being naked? No because there is nothing wrong with it.
Do the african men and women wonder why we cover ourselves in silly clothes? I think so.
Would you expect the african men and women to wear our clothes? I hope not.
It is cultural differences nothing more. In our culture it is the norm to wear certain clothes at certain times, Smart clothes to a wedding, protective clothes in industry, no clothes in bed, Warm clothes when it is cold etc etc
So who is right and who is wrong.
And why is our way right? We have seen countless examples of where white colonisers of countries have deystroyed native tribes and ways of life. And I personally think the new western ways are not an improvement for these people. Yes they now have schools and fridges but they also have alcohol unemployment drugs etc
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 00:27
But the whole point to this mans naked rambling (apparantly) is that he feels he has a right to be naked all the time.
Why should jail be any different then?
I think his point is that you should be able to be naked if you chose too. He is not trying to force his ways on everyone. He does not expect everyone to wander around naked the way you expect everyone to conform to your way of right and wrong. If he walks past me I wont be staring at his meat and 2 veg as you call it. He will get the same attention that any other passer by would get. If he speaks to me I would speak to him. Just like I would do with any other person, His clothing or lack of it would not tarnish my view of him. For all I know he might be a completely annoying pain in the butt. Then again he might be a nice guy I would judge him the same way I judge any other person. I respect his rights to be an individual.
I think his point is that you should be able to be naked if you chose too. He is not trying to force his ways on everyone. He does not expect everyone to wander around naked the way you expect everyone to conform to your way of right and wrong. If he walks past me I wont be staring at his meat and 2 veg as you call it. He will get the same attention that any other passer by would get. If he speaks to me I would speak to him. Just like I would do with any other person, His clothing or lack of it would not tarnish my view of him. For all I know he might be a completely annoying pain in the butt. Then again he might be a nice guy I would judge him the same way I judge any other person. I respect his rights to be an individual.well said naefear, i would be the same but i have to say if i had my 7 year old child with me i'd go the other way out of embaressment.
I think his point is that you should be able to be naked if you chose too. He is not trying to force his ways on everyone. He does not expect everyone to wander around naked the way you expect everyone to conform to your way of right and wrong. If he walks past me I wont be staring at his meat and 2 veg as you call it. He will get the same attention that any other passer by would get. If he speaks to me I would speak to him. Just like I would do with any other person, His clothing or lack of it would not tarnish my view of him. For all I know he might be a completely annoying pain in the butt. Then again he might be a nice guy I would judge him the same way I judge any other person. I respect his rights to be an individual.Well said naefearjustbeer .
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 00:39
I think his point is that you should be able to be naked if you chose too. He is not trying to force his ways on everyone. He does not expect everyone to wander around naked the way you expect everyone to conform to your way of right and wrong. If he walks past me I wont be staring at his meat and 2 veg as you call it. He will get the same attention that any other passer by would get. If he speaks to me I would speak to him. Just like I would do with any other person, His clothing or lack of it would not tarnish my view of him. For all I know he might be a completely annoying pain in the butt. Then again he might be a nice guy I would judge him the same way I judge any other person. I respect his rights to be an individual.
Good for you!
He is trying to force his ways on people. He is openly exposing himself. If we bump into him (oops!) we have a lot of explaining to do to our children (at the very least).
So where does this end? Is it ok for children to walk around naked too? With all those perverts out there?
I supose his issue is the issues of the the complainers, Would you expect an african man or woman to cover up in africa? I hope your answer is no
Would the african man or woman understand what is wrong with being naked? No because there is nothing wrong with it.
Do the african men and women wonder why we cover ourselves in silly clothes? I think so.
Would you expect the african men and women to wear our clothes? I hope not.
It is cultural differences nothing more. In our culture it is the norm to wear certain clothes at certain times, Smart clothes to a wedding, protective clothes in industry, no clothes in bed, Warm clothes when it is cold etc etc
So who is right and who is wrong.
And why is our way right? We have seen countless examples of where white colonisers of countries have deystroyed native tribes and ways of life. And I personally think the new western ways are not an improvement for these people. Yes they now have schools and fridges but they also have alcohol unemployment drugs etc
The thing is, people in Africa that live that way, are bought up the way. It's an accepted way of life over there. Their children are bought up that way also.
You can't expect a country full of people that walk round fully clothed and expect to see fully clothed people, suddenly be ok with naked ramblers.
You have just completely contradicted what you say. Yes, African tribes are ok with nakedness, granted, because that is their way of life. Just as being clothed is our way of life.
And when I was in Africa, everyone there was more than happy to be clothed. We went to tourist areas and non tourist areas, and I have to say, the norm was to wear clothes.
If the western ways you are quick to put down are so destructive, why not go and live with an african tribe then?
Go on, give it a go and tell us what it was like. lol
If the western ways you are quick to put down are so destructive, why not go and live with an african tribe then?
Go on, give it a go and tell us what it was like. lol__________________
why are you always telling people where to go, why don't you go and give something a try then maybe your opinion would'nt be so yawn,yawn lol.
well said naefear, i would be the same but i have to say if i had my 7 year old child with me i'd go the other way out of embaressment.Why do you want your kid to be embarassed by nakedness? Like Naefear said previously it only causes kids to think there is something to be ashamed of. I too had a pervert flash to me as a child and felt I couldn't tell my parents for fear of being punished because I felt as if I had done something wrong. If my parents had been more open about things like this then maybe I could have told them....... I dont think the naked rambler compares to this pervert in any way at all and that if people come across him when they are with their kids then they should maybe use it as an opportunity to discuss their views rather than just hide them from the real world. No matter how hard you try you will never protect your kids from the real dangers!!
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 00:52
Why do you want your kid to be embarassed by nakedness? Like Naefear said previously it only causes kids to think there is something to be ashamed of. I too had a pervert flash to me as a child and felt I couldn't tell my parents for fear of being punished because I felt as if I had done something wrong. If my parents had been more open about things like this then maybe I could have told them....... I dont think the naked rambler compares to this pervert in any way at all and that if people come across him when they are with their kids then they should maybe use it as an opportunity to discuss their views rather than just hide them from the real world. No matter how hard you try you will never protect your kids from the real dangers!!
But our job of protecting our kids is hard enough, thats a fact of life! But when it's made ten times worse by people who openly expose themselves and get away with it, then thats disgusting.
Supposing this naked rambler is innocent (unlikely I know) and more people decide to act on their right to nakedness, what about the real perverts?
Not all perverts hide behind clothes and get a kick out of flashing, they'll move with the times, and if they're allowed to walk round naked among kiddies that are allowed to walk round naked also, that is asking for trouble. Me personally, I'd rather not take the risk of perverts and rapists etc having this chance.
Being clothed has worked so far, why fix what isn't broken? Good lord, even cave men wore clothing.
Why do you want your kid to be embarassed by nakedness? Like Naefear said previously it only causes kids to think there is something to be ashamed of. I too had a pervert flash to me as a child and felt I couldn't tell my parents for fear of being punished because I felt as if I had done something wrong. If my parents had been more open about things like this then maybe I could have told them....... I dont think the naked rambler compares to this pervert in any way at all and that if people come across him when they are with their kids then they should maybe use it as an opportunity to discuss their views rather than just hide them from the real world. No matter how hard you try you will never protect your kids from the real dangers!! i agree to both sides i'm not against the naked rambler far from it, i don't want to expose my child to a naked man in the street thats all, ive talked to my nephews about this and we watched the programme, nakedness was not seen as disgusting or perverted at all i pointed out he was just making his point heard and seen,i only feel my 7 year old child is to young to see a naked man.
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 00:57
[quote=geezer]nakedness was not seen as disgusting or perverted at all i pointed out he was just making his point heard and seen,
Pardon the pun eh! lol
Well Geezer im a bit like you. Reading the posts on here I agree with both sides so im not really wanting to get into a slagging match over it. Its not like my opinion is going to make one bit of difference anyway..
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 01:02
Well Geezer im a bit like you. Reading the posts on here I agree with both sides so im not really wanting to get into a slagging match over it. Its not like my opinion is going to make one bit of difference anyway..
But you're still entitled to it.!
Porshiepoo the only thing he has been charged with is breach of the peace and breaking his bail conditions there was nothing mentioned about him be a perv or a peeping tom .Only you and your cronnies have branded a perv .
Never judge a book by it's cover .
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 01:06
I dont think I have contradicted myself, all I am trying to say it is not wrong to be naked. I am saying it is wrong to force your ideas of what is right on everyone. My points were made to show it is ok to be naked outside in someplaces and it is only the attitudes of some people that is the problem NOT the act of being naked itself. As for living with an african tribe. Yes I think it would be a good expierience although my years of having an easy life would make that lifestyle hard for me to adjust to. Also it would be far to hot for me I am caithness born and bred and used to our climate so I think I would frazzle out in africa. You know what they say about black men? I am darn sure I dont want to stand naked beside a tribe full of them LOL!!
I dont think I have contradicted myself, all I am trying to say it is not wrong to be naked. I am saying it is wrong to force your ideas of what is right on everyone. My points were made to show it is ok to be naked outside in someplaces and it is only the attitudes of some people that is the problem NOT the act of being naked itself. As for living with an african tribe. Yes I think it would be a good expierience although my years of having an easy life would make that lifestyle hard for me to adjust to. Also it would be far to hot for me I am caithness born and bred and used to our climate so I think I would frazzle out in africa. You know what they say about black men? I am darn sure I dont want to stand naked beside a tribe full of them LOL!! ha ha way to go naefearjustbeer.
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 01:08
Porshiepoo the only thing he has been charged with is breach of the peace and breaking his bail conditions there was nothing mentioned about him be a perv or a peeping tom .Only you and your cronnies have branded a perv .
Never judge a book by it's cover .
Oh well! That must be so then eh?
I never said he was a peeping Tom either, I think he's to together for that. He doesn't feel the need to spy on people, why would he, when he can quite happily expose himself openly!
Probably broke his bail conditions being naked again! If thats the case then surely he's exposing himself in jail too? To all those nice pretty boys that would welcome seeing him! lol.
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 01:11
I dont think I have contradicted myself, all I am trying to say it is not wrong to be naked. I am saying it is wrong to force your ideas of what is right on everyone. My points were made to show it is ok to be naked outside in someplaces and it is only the attitudes of some people that is the problem NOT the act of being naked itself. As for living with an african tribe. Yes I think it would be a good expierience although my years of having an easy life would make that lifestyle hard for me to adjust to. Also it would be far to hot for me I am caithness born and bred and used to our climate so I think I would frazzle out in africa. You know what they say about black men? I am darn sure I dont want to stand naked beside a tribe full of them LOL!!
Eek!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 01:14
Never judge a book by it's cover .
or lack of it
porshiepoo
06-Dec-05, 01:15
or lack of it
Hahahaha, good one!
Naefearjustbeer
06-Dec-05, 01:17
Ahh its been fun :) but its time to log off working in the morning :(
Does no-one have any pictures of this guy.ive never heard of him?
Does no-one have any pictures of this guy.ive never heard of him?
Domestos-Thickest Ever, that say's it all.
Domestos-Thickest Ever, that say's it all.mmm grrrr!!!
Does no-one have any pictures of this guy.ive never heard of him?
Have you been living on a remote island for a few years then domestos?
Don't worry when he comes this far north i'll be out cheering him on and i'll take a picture for you, he will be starkers though will you mind.
I don't suppose for some reason you will.
bet you get sick of seeing the same thing day in day out right enough
bet you get sick of seeing the same thing day in day out right enough
Sorry domestos but what are you on about? i don't see the naked rambler on a daily basis.
[quote=jessabell]Sorry domestos but what are you on about? i don't see the naked rambler on a daily basis.[/quote. your waiting patiently till he come out o jail though.........
[quote=jessabell]Sorry domestos but what are you on about? i don't see the naked rambler on a daily basis.[/quote. your waiting patiently till he come out o jail though.........
I am also waiting for him to get of jail to join him on his ramble haha
[quote=fed-ex]
I am also waiting for him to get of jail to join him on his ramble hahaMe too, i canna wait. Domestos dosna know what hes missing....
we will have to give porshiepoo a wave on the way past lybster.lol
we will have to give porshiepoo a wave on the way past lybster.lolThats if her and Crayola dont knock us out with bricks first. One good thing though, at least they wont be able to rumage through our pockets when they've got us down.......haha
Thats if her and Crayola dont knock us out with bricks first. One good thing though, at least they wont be able to rumage through our pockets when they've got us down.......haha
The witchs will hunt us down on their broomsticks we can take some bricks with us in our bags just incase they see us.haha
The witchs will hunt us down on their broomsticks we can take some bricks with us in our bags just incase they see us.haha
ah! krieve and fed-ex i've no laughed so much, fantastic sense of humor. lol
I had a good laugh myself geezer when i read what fed ex put that was funny.
HaHa better no tell them where we keep our loose change then.....
better not incase porshiepoo and crayola try to catch us and put a spell on us dont fancy getting cased in the buff with them on their sticks.
better not incase porshiepoo and crayola try to catch us and put a spell on us dont fancy getting cased in the buff with them on their sticks.I'd rather take ma chances with that sniffer dogs of hers... less scary..
better not incase porshiepoo and crayola try to catch us and put a spell on us dont fancy getting cased in the buff with them on their sticks.
Crayola and Porshiepoo is the same person krieve.
your worried about it now just think how scarey it would be at halloween .
your worried about it now just think how scarey it would be at halloween .If you think thats scary, just imagine her walking along the steet with that droid thing..............
Crayola and Porshiepoo is the same person krieve.
my man seen them on line at the same time the other night. I also thought that but he showed me and both there name where on at the same time.
If you think thats scary, just imagine her walking along the steet with that droid thing..............
who porshiepoo
who porshiepooaye, didn't you see the star wars posts from last night?
yes i did sorry to say, i hate star wars she probably looks like that droid .
yes i did sorry to say, i hate star wars she probably looks like that droid .Or maybe courtney cox hahaha .
porshiepoo
11-Dec-05, 02:13
Or maybe courtney cox hahaha .
See now you're sounding like you don't believe me! lol
Please say it isn't so! :(
See now you're sounding like you don't believe me! lol
Please say it isn't so! :(More likely to be related to dirtbags
had to bring it up, now that the naked rambler is set to get hitched and obviously to his naked chick!
he proposed from his prison cell and she was delighted they plan to get married on a nudist beach, wonder how many guests will be happy to attend in the nude?
How would you feel if he invited you, would you happily go along in the buff?
I Would i sitting in the buff right now . Dont know about poshiepoo i think she as a different opinion We could always ask . lovl .
jamesmoore
29-Dec-05, 23:34
[quote=pooh pooh]had to bring it up, now that the naked rambler is set to get hitched and obviously to his naked chick!
he proposed from his prison cell and she was delighted they plan to get married on a nudist beach, wonder how many guests will be happy to attend in the nude?
How would you feel if he invited you, would you happily go along in the buff?[/quote If he was marrying another man im quite sure most posters on here would be quite happy to go along...
[quote=pooh pooh]had to bring it up, now that the naked rambler is set to get hitched and obviously to his naked chick!
he proposed from his prison cell and she was delighted they plan to get married on a nudist beach, wonder how many guests will be happy to attend in the nude?
How would you feel if he invited you, would you happily go along in the buff?[/quote If he was marrying another man im quite sure most posters on here would be quite happy to go along...
Would you go ?
[quote=jamesmoore]
Would you go ?
oh! most certainly why not.
peedie man
30-Dec-05, 07:42
i would certainly go as long as i could wear my hat
I would go to the wedding and i would go in the buff.
shrek_donkey
30-Dec-05, 14:59
I would go as long as i could take ma flowers.
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.