George Calder and Ellen Henderson

[Robbie]

George Calder marries Ellen Henderson 18/5/1849 in WICK. Thats about all I could find on it. I've managed to hit my very own brick wall, can't find any birth certificates, deaths, or parentage. Does anyone link in to this? or Know.

Any help would be most grateful.

[fred]

George Calder marries Ellen Henderson 18/5/1849 in WICK. Thats about all I could find on it. I've managed to hit my very own brick wall, can't find any birth certificates, deaths, or parentage. Does anyone link in to this? or Know.

Any help would be most grateful.

They married in Wick? The marriage was registered in Dunnet where George was born, possibly the son of William Calder and Margaret Dunnet.

Here they are in Thurso on the 1861 census.

Piece: SCT1861/41 Place: Thurso -Caithness Enumeration District: 11
Civil Parish: Thurso Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 2 Schedule: 6
Address: Farm Square

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CALDER George Head M M 29 Ploughman Caithness - Dunnet
CALDER Hellen Wife M F 32 - Caithness - Halkirk
CALDER William Son U M 12 Scholar Caithness - Dunnet
CALDER John Son - M 10 Scholar Caithness - Halkirk
CALDER Hellen Daur - F 7 - Caithness - Halkirk
CALDER Margaret Daur - F 5 - Caithness - Thurso
CALDER David Son - M 3 - Caithness - Thurso
CALDER George Son - M 10m - Caithness - Thurso

They had a daughter Annie Andrew born 27th March 1867 and a son Robert Henderson born 23rd May 1869 both born in Reay.

Here they are on the 1881 census:

Dwelling: Lythmore
Census Place: Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203402 GRO Ref Volume 041 EnumDist 10 Page 16
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
George CALDER M 51 M Dunnet, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Lab
Helen CALDER M 52 F Halkirk, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Ag Labs Wife
Margaret CALDER U 23 F Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Farm Serv
George CALDER U 20 M Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Farm Serv
Catherine CALDER U 18 F Thurso, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Farm Serv
Ann A. CALDER U 14 F Reay, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Robert CALDER U 11 M Reay, Caithness, Scotland

[Robbie]

Hi fred, thanks ever so much, I had all the details all along, was just reading them the wrong way. had my head burried with it all and just got blind to the details, lesson learned: take a break!

Once again, many thanks, i really appreciate it!

[Tricia]

Not mine but here in 1851
Piece: SCT1851/37 Place: Halkirk -Caithness Enumeration District: 7
Civil Parish: Halkirk Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 8 Schedule: 30
Address: Balnatunich
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CALDER George Head M M 21 Farm Servant Caithness - Dunnet
CALDER Helen Wife M F 22 Caithness - Bower
CALDER William Son - M 1 Caithness - Dunnet

With the births of children he seems to have moved around a bit.

Tricia

[Robbie]

Unfortunately, I think it's a genetic trait within my family tree, I'm having a hell of a time trying to locate multiple marriages, as well as partners, as well as children. Not one of the men really wanted to settle down!!. Luckily though, contraception got invented, and the Roman Cathloics soon filtered out from the Protestants. Historical entertainment at it's best. ;)

[Robbie]

My George Calder 'is' the son of William Calder and Margaret Dunnet. I've managed to get back to Margarets Dunnets grandparents, but theres too many Calders called William in Caithness!!!! I'm shooting in the dark here with thumbs in my eyes and asking if anyone knows who my elusive William Calder is. Sorry if I'm being a pain.

[Robbie]

1790 CALDER WILLIAM CHARLES CALDER/KATHARINE CALDER U Dunnet/CAITHNESS
1790 CALDER WILLIAM JOHN CALDER/MARGT. ALLAN U Dunnet/CAITHNESS
1792 CALDER WILLIAM WILLIAM CALDER/KATHARINE SWANSON FR 78 M Dunnet/CAITHNESS
1792 CALDER WILLIAM JOHN CALDER/JANET SHEARER M Dunnet/CAITHNESS
1796 CALDER WILLIAM GEORGE CALDER/ELIZABETH WAITER U Dunnet/CAITHNESS
1801 CALDER WILLIAM DONALD CALDER/ESTER BUDGE U Dunnet/CAITHNESS
These are the families I can find, I treid the census', but my William would be over 40 years old and had already married by the 1841. All the dates match up, but theres too many to 'eenie-meenie-minie-mo' it. :confused

[Mamie_2]

Here's George's birth from FREEREG
County Caithness-shire
Place Dunnet
Church Dunnet Vol II
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 04 Jul 1830
BaptismDate 12 Jul 1830
Forename George
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Margaret
FatherSurname CALDER
MotherSurname DUNNET
Abode Scarfskerry
FatherOccupation
Notes James Dunnet and Jean Calder witness
clues are to be found in the witnesses sometimes.
I think you can eliminate the 1801

Margaret and William's marriage
County Caithness-shire
Place Dunnet
Church Dunnet
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 04 Dec 1819
GroomForename William
GroomSurname CALDER
GroomAge
GroomParish Dunnet
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Margaret
BrideSurname DUNNET
BrideAge
BrideParish Dunnet
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename James
WitnessOneSurname BUDGE
WitnessTwoForename John
WitnessTwoSurname DUNNET
Notes married 1 January 1820

The best fit is with William and Margaret's children because of the naming pattern is William 1792 son of William and Katherine Swanson.

the ones I found in order
William 1821
Jacobina 1822
John 1825
Catherine 1827
George 1830
James 1833
Catherine 1833
Robert 1836
James 1838

[Robbie]

Yeah, that makes sense now. I didn't know they had all those kids, I obviously knew about George, but it's interesting to see Jacobina pop up in 1822, Margaret Dunnets mother was called Jacobina (Swanson b:c1762)...well.. I've finally accepted that she might well be. I hope Katherine Swanson and Jacobina Swanson aren't too closely related! :confused

Thanks for your help Mamie_2, much appreciated.

[Mamie_2]

Katherine Swanson born 1754 bapt Jun 2 parents George Swanson and Margaret Dunnet
County Caithness-shire Place Dunnet Church Dunnet Vol I RegisterNumber 3 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 02 Jun 1754 Forename Katharine Sex F FatherForename George MotherForename Margaret FatherSurname SWANSON MotherSurname DUNNET Abode Barrack FatherOccupation Notes Congregation witness

Jacobina Swanson born 1762 bapt Jul 29 1762 parents William Swanson mother Euphan Swanson( born 1730ish Olrig father George Swanson?)
Caithness-shire Place Dunnet Church Dunnet Vol I RegisterNumber 11 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 29 Jul 1762 Forename Jacobina Sex F FatherForename William MotherForename Euphan FatherSurname SWANSON MotherSurname Abode Inkstack FatherOccupation Notes William Coggill witness

I would say probably not related or at best cousins.

[Robbie]

Thanks for that Mamie, I found a few certs on scotlandspeople to back this up, but still can't find a common relation, but they are there somewhere. But at least it's not direct.