looking for any sutherlands from the latheron, dunbeath wick

[zen3]

:eyes Hi I am trying to trace back my sutherland tree and i'm stumped can anyone help me?


hugh sutherland born 1813c married johanna dallas born 1821 from the latheron area they had a son thomas sutherland born 1863 and he married a robina dewer there could have been more children i dont know.
thanks
zena sutherland

[fred]

:eyes Hi I am trying to trace back my sutherland tree and i'm stumped can anyone help me?


hugh sutherland born 1813c married johanna dallas born 1821 from the latheron area they had a son thomas sutherland born 1863 and he married a robina dewer there could have been more children i dont know.
thanks
zena sutherland

I'm not supprised you are stumped with Johanna, she seems to have been christned as a boy named Johanne Dallas on 13th Jun 1821.

Her parents were George Dallas and Catharine Barnie married 20th Mar 1817 in Latheron.

Here is the 1841 census entry for her household, all the ages seem to be a couple of years out but that seems to be normal with the 1841 census records. I've added the actual years born at the end where I know them.

There was another son, John born in 1832, may have died young.

District: 5 Folio: 0 Page: 16
Address: Balintink

DALLAS George M 43 Farmer Caithness
DALLAS Catharine F 40 Caithness
DALLAS Elisabeth F 22 Caithness
DALLAS Margt. F 20 Caithness 1819
DALLAS Johan F 18 Caithness 1821
DALLAS Janet F 16 Caithness 1823
DALLAS Catharine F 14 Caithness 1825
DALLAS Charlotte F 12 Caithness 1827
DALLAS George M 10 Caithness 1830
DALLAS James M 4 Caithness 1835

[zen3]

Thanks for the info
Dont suppose you would know hugh's parents too many sutherlands to choose from?
thanks so much
zena :D

[fred]

Thanks for the info
Dont suppose you would know hugh's parents too many sutherlands to choose from?
thanks so much
zena :D

That's normally the case with Sutherlands but this time it's a case of not enough.

The only likely candidate I can find was born in 1821 not around 1813.

[zen3]

Hi Fred
Can you give me any info on him?
cheers any help will be gratefully recieved :D

[elizabeth forbes]

Hugh Sutherland b. 1811 m. Johanna Dallas
Parents John Sutherland & Esther Sutherland , Siblings :- William b.1807,Robert b 1809, Hugh b. 1811, James, Janet b. 1815, Ann b. 1817, George b. 1821, Alexander b. 1823.
Esther Sutherland b.1788, Parents William and Ann Sutherland,

[Davie MacLeod]

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[zen3]

Thanks for all your help
very gratefull
cheers zena :D

[zen3]

:lol: Great information
thanks everyone
now i'm going to be a cheeky monkey hugh sutherland had a child thomas sutherland born 1863 married rabina dewer do we know if hugh had any more children?
Thanks if anyone can help.
zena

[fred]

:lol: Great information
thanks everyone
now i'm going to be a cheeky monkey hugh sutherland had a child thomas sutherland born 1863 married rabina dewer do we know if hugh had any more children?
Thanks if anyone can help.
zena

There was John, he was born 20th feb 1859 at Clashvally Dunbeath.

[zen3]

cheers fred
:D

[robbain]

Zen3 & Elizabeth Forbes I have sent you a private emai to your caithness org inbox about John Sutherland & Esther Sutherland [lol]

[zen3]

Hi Fred
Do you also know if john sutherland hugh's son married? or had children.
thanks zena :D

[zen3]

Hi Elizabeth

My thomas sutherland and rabina dewar had 3 children
1. john robert sutherland born 1898 in dunbeath married margaret webster- my line
2. calder sutherland johns twin 1898
3. a girl dont know her name could be thisjahan dallas sutherland born 1892 who married william durrand.
I'll have to find out somehow unless you know for sure?
zena

[elizabeth forbes]

Johan Dallas Sutherland death registration 1961 in Wick , Parents Thomas Sutherland & Robertina Dewar, Spouse William George Durrand

[fred]

Hi Fred
Do you also know if john sutherland hugh's son married? or had children.
thanks zena :D

No, it's getting a bit late for my records. I have records of many, but by no means not all, births and marriages in Latheron parish before about 1870, I have the 1841 census and I have records of the burrials in both Latheron cemeteries and part of Clythe, which I'm working on at the moment, on my computer.

Anything outside that range I can't help with.

[zen3]

Ok Cheers fred
zena :D

[zen3]

Robina dewar born 1857 father james dewar 1830c I'm told that they are related to the dewar whisky family but were disowned for marrying out of there does anyone know anything about this? :roll:

[marionq]

On the subject of the name Johanne, Johanna - the most common highland spelling is actually Johan. My name is Marion Johan and the name is repeated through generations of my family. What I found though was that since my ancestors were all Gaelic speakers it was left to the registrars to spell names in any which way they liked.

However I know from my Granny that it was pronounced Johan with an aspirant "h" as in the h in house.

A boy's name indeed, shame on you Fred.

[fred]

On the subject of the name Johanne, Johanna - the most common highland spelling is actually Johan. My name is Marion Johan and the name is repeated through generations of my family. What I found though was that since my ancestors were all Gaelic speakers it was left to the registrars to spell names in any which way they liked.

However I know from my Granny that it was pronounced Johan with an aspirant "h" as in the h in house.

A boy's name indeed, shame on you Fred.

Wasn't me, either the parish priest got it wrong or the Latter Day Saints got it wrong but she's down as a boy in my records:

JOHANNE DALLAS
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 13 JUN 1821 Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: GEORGE DALLAS

[dirdyweeker]

:eyes Hi I am trying to trace back my sutherland tree and i'm stumped can anyone help me?


hugh sutherland born 1813c married johanna dallas born 1821 from the latheron area they had a son thomas sutherland born 1863 and he married a robina dewer there could have been more children i dont know.
thanks
zena sutherland This Robina Sutherland is my granny. She is 101 and still going strong. Feel free to contact me.

[dirdyweeker]

Zen 3 ....have sent you a pm re this subject. This is my relations too!!

[zen3]

Hi
My robina dewar is not alive as she would be 148 by now I think you may have the wrong family here?
Can you give me any more details?
Thanks zena

[dirdyweeker]

sorry, my mistake. Robina was my great granny, yes she is dead. Her daughter Robina is 101 and still living

[zen3]

Really god that is amazing she was my great grandads sister.
I come from her brother john side.
you can e-mail me on
zena@zsutherland3.wanadoo.co.uk

[dirdyweeker]

have sent you a pm. We are obviously related !!

[zen3]

Hi
I have not recieved any other messages?
zena :~(

[elizabeth forbes]

Hi Zena, Am sending a PM with some current info

Regards
Teeny

[zen3]

ok :D

[Fran]

My daughters name is also Johan, after my granny who came from Bettyhill. It is the gaelic name for Joanne, and originated in sutherland where it was very popular, and still is.