View Full Version : Nicola Sturgeon - disgrace to Scotland
SNP has a lot to answer their Iron Maiden (Nicola Sturgeon) gets a pay award voted by her party in power, while the rest of us, gets cuts.
Holyrood has voted through a pay rise for MSPs that would give the first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, the highest salary of any politician in the UK.
The Scottish parliament voted unanimously on Tuesday to increase basic salaries for MSPs by 0.7%, pushing the official overall salary for Scotland’s first minister to £144,687 – outstripping the prime minister’s overall pay of £142,500 and that of Boris Johnson, the London mayor, who earns £143,911.
Back in 2010 she writing a letter in support of a man who could be jailed for benefit fraud.
Nicola Sturgeon said she was "duty-bound" as a constituency MSP to make "reasonable representations" on behalf of 60-year-oldAbdul Rauf. He defrauded more than £80,000 from the Department for Work and Pension.
She is a disgrace to the people of Scotland, taking a payrise, and given her support to a fraudster.
Also she didn't show her respect to those who gave their lives in Afghanistan by not attended the service of memorial to those who give their lives.
run for your life robbain, the cybernats will be after you for that!!
YummyMummy
19-Mar-15, 22:06
Also she didn't show her respect to those who gave their lives in Afghanistan by not attended the service of memorial to those who give their lives.
Say what you like about our First Minister - she's a big girl and has heard worse. I think you'll find Nicola Sturgeon was at the memorial of the Dunblane massacre where little children and their teacher lost their lives on the 13th March 1996, which coincided with the memorial you refer to. A day some of us in Scotland can never forget. Now, that's respect.
She has the name of a fish, the look of a fish and the smell of a fish.
BetterTogether
19-Mar-15, 22:33
Say what you like about our First Minister - she's a big girl and has heard worse. I think you'll find Nicola Sturgeon was at the memorial of the Dunblane massacre where little children and their teacher lost their lives on the 13th March 1996, which coincided with the memorial you refer to. A day some of us in Scotland can never forget. Now, that's respect.
I hate to disagree and stick my nose over the parapet ready for the cybernats to have a field day, but it was widely reported in the media that she was attending a meeting of councils and tweeting about her kitchen, rather than representing this country and honouring the brave servicemen who paid the ultimate price.
Add to her pay rise the recent factual information about the NHS a fully devolved power the SNP has had control of for seven years now. Increase in England and Wales 4.5%, Scotland 1.5 % so why is it they aren't sending all the money through to the NHS and diverting it elsewhere while Hospitals like ours suffer more and more cutbacks.
Finally the pigeons are coming home to roost for the SNP and all their misinformation is showing the utter and total financial incompetence of them.
Let's not discuss the travesty of plunging oil prices and whisky exports what would of been two more nails in the coffin of an independent Scotland or the massive debts now appearing from local councils around Scotland.
A police force out of control and seemingly answerable only to itself just to add to the wonderful world of a free fair Scotland.
On the same week we discover Russia was preparing to deploy its nuclear arsenal, land sea and air forces should Europe do anything about the Ukraine we still have the SNP wanting to disband trident.
Then we have today an MSP sending totally unacceptable tweets and getting sacked.The true colours of the SNP are finally showing through.
Largesse at the taxpayers expense and who cares as long as they get independence.
Marxist Red through and through
Willing to prop up any old party as long as they get what they want
rogermellie
19-Mar-15, 23:56
She has the name of a fish, the look of a fish and the smell of a fish.
are you sure you're old enough to be using a computer ?
we had the same thing from Golach constantly calling Salmond 'fat eck'.
if the best you can come up with is personal insults, then you're no better than some jealous wee bairn in the playground
Given that MPs are looking at around a 9% pay rise after the GE, and given that MSPs are entitled to automatically receive 87.5% of that, it seems to me that 0.7% is less than they could be pocketing. I assume you do remember that since the SNP were elected into office in 2007/08 that they chose to freeze their pay. SNP MSPs have opted not to take the rises and have contributed the difference back into the public purse..the Scottish Public Purse. And you conveniently forgot to mention that they have cut the link between their salaries and those of MPs and instead linked them to public sector pay.
It sure ain't the SNP who are the pigs with their snouts in the trough.
guidinglight
20-Mar-15, 08:11
SNP = Cloned Torries: End off
are you sure you're old enough to be using a computer ?
we had the same thing from Golach constantly calling Salmond 'fat eck'.
if the best you can come up with is personal insults, then you're no better than some jealous wee bairn in the playground
I was not aware that there was an age restriction on computer useage!!
If I want to insult the fishy boot then I can do so, if golach wanted to point out our previous idiot being morbidly obese then he can do so.
we had the same thing from Golach constantly calling Salmond 'fat eck'.
Perhaps Mr Salmond read Golach's remarks and decided to lose the extra pounds as he is slimline now and his health will be all the better for it and that, irrespective of one's political persuasions, has to be viewed as a positive thing! But as many of us know, it's keeping it off longer term......potential for slaking his thirst in the Commons bar, post-rumpus (or do they call it debates?) following hours of heated exchanges in the chamber? The temptations will be there for sure- if he gets elected, that is!
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 10:13
Given that MPs are looking at around a 9% pay rise after the GE, and given that MSPs are entitled to automatically receive 87.5% of that, it seems to me that 0.7% is less than they could be pocketing. I assume you do remember that since the SNP were elected into office in 2007/08 that they chose to freeze their pay. SNP MSPs have opted not to take the rises and have contributed the difference back into the public purse..the Scottish Public Purse. And you conveniently forgot to mention that they have cut the link between their salaries and those of MPs and instead linked them to public sector pay. It sure ain't the SNP who are the pigs with their snouts in the trough.Care to explain how that justifies Ms Sturgeon not attending the rememberance service for fallen Scottish servicemen.So they initially cut the tie between their pay and MPs then take no pay rise for a couple of years but oh joy now the first minister pays herself more than the prime minister.Nose has now found the trough and is feeding happily
How you can have the temerity to claim that paying Nicola Sturgeon more than the prime minister or mayor of London both Tories means she is somehow morally superior to my way of seeing it means she is worse than any Tory for accepting public funds.
Small snip below from the news on Wednesday.
"MSPs awarded themselves a 0.7 per cent rise, taking the First Minister's salary to £144,687 - a pay packet bigger than the Prime Minister's and overtaking the £143,911 earned by London Mayor Boris Johnson.
Ms Sturgeon's official spokesman later said she would only accept £135,605, maintaining Alex Salmond's voluntary pledge to freeze his salary at its 2008/9 level.
The difference will be returned to a general Scottish Government account.
It is understood cabinet colleagues have also agreed to continue a voluntary pay freeze and will hand back a portion of the £103,495 they are entitled to from next month."
Let's not allow facts to get in the way of the usual unionist tosh eh?
ref- http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/sturgeon-becomes-uks-best-paid-politician-on-paper.120874379
And you think she worth that sort of money? Clearly we are very lucky we did not get vote yes or we be nearly bankrupt with oil going down the plug hole
And you think she worth that sort of money? SNIP
What I think only matters when combined with the will of the other voters who voted for the SNP. They have a majority in the Scottish Government...
rob murray
20-Mar-15, 15:36
I hate to disagree and stick my nose over the parapet ready for the cybernats to have a field day, but it was widely reported in the media that she was attending a meeting of councils and tweeting about her kitchen, rather than representing this country and honouring the brave servicemen who paid the ultimate price.
Add to her pay rise the recent factual information about the NHS a fully devolved power the SNP has had control of for seven years now. Increase in England and Wales 4.5%, Scotland 1.5 % so why is it they aren't sending all the money through to the NHS and diverting it elsewhere while Hospitals like ours suffer more and more cutbacks.
Finally the pigeons are coming home to roost for the SNP and all their misinformation is showing the utter and total financial incompetence of them.
Let's not discuss the travesty of plunging oil prices and whisky exports what would of been two more nails in the coffin of an independent Scotland or the massive debts now appearing from local councils around Scotland.
A police force out of control and seemingly answerable only to itself just to add to the wonderful world of a free fair Scotland.
On the same week we discover Russia was preparing to deploy its nuclear arsenal, land sea and air forces should Europe do anything about the Ukraine we still have the SNP wanting to disband trident.
Then we have today an MSP sending totally unacceptable tweets and getting sacked.The true colours of the SNP are finally showing through.
Largesse at the taxpayers expense and who cares as long as they get independence.
Marxist Red through and through
Willing to prop up any old party as long as they get what they want
Very well put, you highlight SNP hypocracy and lies.....mores the pity that a vast amount of the electorate seemingly are going to vote for the liars, what is that they say..in the county of the blind the one eyed man is king....theres very few one eyed folk out there then !
rob murray
20-Mar-15, 15:38
Given that MPs are looking at around a 9% pay rise after the GE, and given that MSPs are entitled to automatically receive 87.5% of that, it seems to me that 0.7% is less than they could be pocketing. I assume you do remember that since the SNP were elected into office in 2007/08 that they chose to freeze their pay. SNP MSPs have opted not to take the rises and have contributed the difference back into the public purse..the Scottish Public Purse. And you conveniently forgot to mention that they have cut the link between their salaries and those of MPs and instead linked them to public sector pay.
It sure ain't the SNP who are the pigs with their snouts in the trough.
Clever response, is Nicky worth £144k ?
Well I don't begrudge her the money because I actually think MPs are underpaid (Boo hiss). Until MPs were paid, Westminster politics was only open to the rich and privileged. To be honest, if I wanted to publically serve my country in the field of politics then I'd like it to pay handsomely if only as compensation for cutting short my existing career.
Well if this was a banker with bonus and the banks are not up to scratch then every one be screaming no Bonus etc. What has the leader of the SNP done, part from splitting country apart
She must be doing something right because Labour, LiDems and tories are ontrack for a political wipeout. The unionist parties just look after themselves.
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 20:59
She must be doing something right because Labour, LiDems and tories are ontrack for a political wipeout. The unionist parties just look after themselves.And of course the SNP don't just look after themselves except for making themselves so toxicthey are the party except for the national front that no one would form an alliance with. Tells you a lot.
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 21:02
Well if this was a banker with bonus and the banks are not up to scratch then every one be screaming no Bonus etc. What has the leader of the SNP done, part from splitting country apart
I know one answer to that question.
Strangled the Scottish NHS of funding to create a situation where the service is suffering chronic shortages and lowering staff moral just to blame someone else for a situation entirely within their control.
Or
Blown billions with overspending councils then sweeping the figures under the carpet until after the referendum.
And of course the SNP don't just look after themselves except for making themselves so toxicthey are the party except for the national front that no one would form an alliance with. Tells you a lot.
Bittertogether are we because they won't be pals with your tory party?
I know one answer to that question.
Strangled the Scottish NHS of funding to create a situation where the service is suffering chronic shortages and lowering staff moral just to blame someone else for a situation entirely within their control.
Or
Blown billions with overspending councils then sweeping the figures under the carpet until after the referendum.
A tory complaining about cutting the NHS to the bone, who'd have thought that eh?
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 21:21
Bittertogether are we because they won't be pals with your tory party?
A tory complaining about cutting the NHS to the bone, who'd have thought that eh?How entirely predictable if you can't attack the argument, attack the person. Such are the ways of cyberats. A bit of name calling a bit of entirely baseless assumption I'm rather disappointed that you can't at least try and be intellectual and original but then why would I expect any kind of higher level cerebral interaction with someone so obviously blinded by bigoted opinion.
How entirely predictable if you can't attack the argument, attack the person. Such are the ways of cyberats. A bit of name calling a bit of entirely baseless assumption I'm rather disappointed that you can't at least try and be intellectual and original but then why would I expect any kind of higher level cerebral interaction with someone so obviously blinded by bigoted opinion.
No it demonstrates your double stands of attacking the SNP for purportedly doing what you support the tory party for doing. You need to get your own house in order before you slag off others...
and you are one of the Great Offended are you?
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 21:39
Bittertogether are we because they won't be pals with your tory party?
A tory complaining about cutting the NHS to the bone, who'd have thought that eh?
No it demonstrates your double stands of attacking the SNP for purportedly doing what you support the tory party for doing. You need to get your own house in order before you slag off others...and you are one of the Great Offended are you?I'm now curious as to what you use to divine your answers a cracked crystal ball Mebbe ? How on earth do you know what party I vote for. As usual a cheap smear on your part and the reality that the SNPs pigeons are coming home to roost as they slowly but surely slip down the polls as the election draws closer and we've seen that before haven't we.I'm not offended in the slightest more amused by you child like thrashing about trying to get a reaction. You can always tell a man by the level of commitment to a cause to say one thing and do another would be rank hypocrisy so consider this how do you fare when your actions are weighed and measured.
I'm now curious as to what you use to divine your answers a cracked crystal ball Mebbe ? How on earth do you know what party I vote for. As usual a cheap smear on your part and the reality that the SNPs pigeons are coming home to roost as they slowly but surely slip down the polls as the election draws closer and we've seen that before haven't we.I'm not offended in the slightest more amused by you child like thrashing about trying to get a reaction. You can always tell a man by the level of commitment to a cause to say one thing and do another would be rank hypocrisy so consider this how do you fare when your actions are weighed and measured.
Me trying to get a reaction? You think that is me trying to get a reaction? Now that was funny.
I'm now curious as to what you use to divine your answers a cracked crystal ball Mebbe ? How on earth do you know what party I vote for. As usual a cheap smear on your part.
Come on Bitter, you will have to try better than that. You told everyone that you were going to vote Conservative in this poll. You think me stupid?
http://forum.caithness.org/poll.php?pollid=486&do=showresults
As many already know to their cost, I never utter anything on this forum unless I have done my research. :lol:
I hope everyone has a lovely weekend.
Janey
BetterTogether
20-Mar-15, 22:24
Bittertogether are we because they won't be pals with your tory party?
A tory complaining about cutting the NHS to the bone, who'd have thought that eh?
Come on Bitter, you will have to try better than that. You told everyone that you were going to vote Conservative in this poll. You think me stupid?http://forum.caithness.org/poll.php?pollid=486&do=showresults
As many already know to their cost, I never utter anything on this forum unless I have done my research. :lol:
Well now that could be construed as a threat .
What particular cost is it you're openly threatening me with ?
As for the other part why is it obsessive compulsive and stalkerish both spring to mind !
Of course I will allow you the good grace to publicly retract the threat and cease and desist the stalker type behaviour !
Maybe a quick peruse of the forum rules would be advisable I'd hate for you to fall foul of them by threatening another member with unknown and unspecified costs to their personal welfare and safety.
Niall Fernie
20-Mar-15, 22:38
There is obviously no threat in this thread. Please cease your baiting now.
Ah The Great Offended again.
I think point has gone missing, it seems anything the SNP does it is OK. It seems like pied piper, when they play their flute all the rats follow to their death :lol:
There is obviously no threat in this thread. Please cease your baiting now.Now Rheghead, listen to Nail, no baiting.
I think point has gone missing, it seems anything the SNP does it is OK. It seems like pied piper, when they play their flute all the rats follow to their death :lol:
Wow, the Unionists are having to shout now. And use intemperate language; no surprise there then. When in doubt - try to bully...
Wow, the Unionists are having to shout now. And use intemperate language; no surprise there then. When in doubt - try to bully... I must of hit a nerve, The truth does hurt :lol:
I must of hit a nerve, The truth does hurt :lol:
'have' - "I must have hit a nerve".
Go and stand in the naughty corner you wee rascal.
rob murray
23-Mar-15, 14:56
Wow, the Unionists are having to shout now. And use intemperate language; no surprise there then. When in doubt - try to bully...
Point of order...we live in Scotland, a Scotland that voted to continue with the Union (or am I missing something ), so like it or lump it, until we get seperation ( if ever ) every one, is by definition a unionist we are UK nationals and live as part of a union, and that includes you. To be accurate there are three camps 1 couldnt give a monkeys 2 Yes for seperation 3 No to spereation, so you should have said..."Wow the majority no voters are having to shout now"..........
SNIP
every one, is by definition a unionist
SNIP
Maybe by your definition...
I may still be British, but a unionist - never. Unless of course you accept the gross conflation of British/English in which case I'm English (Aye right.)
If I move to France, I'll still be Scottish.
rob murray
23-Mar-15, 16:45
Maybe by your definition...
I may still be British, but a unionist - never. Unless of course you accept the gross conflation of British/English in which case I'm English (Aye right.)
If I move to France, I'll still be Scottish.
Yes your a scot and living in the union so you are a unionist, go to france and your an ex pat scot living in France. Hair splitt
google : From 1603, Scotland and England shared the same monarch in a personal union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Personal_union) when James VI of Scotland (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/James_VI_of_Scotland) was declared King of England and Ireland in what was known as the Union of the Crowns (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Union_of_the_Crowns). After James VII of Scotland (II of England) (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/James_II_of_England) was deposed in 1688 (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution) amid Catholic-Protestant disputes, and as the line of Protestant Stuarts showed signs of failing (as indeed occurred in 1714), English fears that Scotland would go its own way led to the formal union of the two kingdoms in 1707, with the Treaty of Union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union) and subsequent Acts of Union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Act_of_Union_1707), to form the Kingdom of Great Britain (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Britain)
Is the above right or wrong ?
Yes your a scot and living in the union so you are a unionist, go to france and your an ex pat scot living in France. Hair splitt
google : From 1603, Scotland and England shared the same monarch in a personal union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Personal_union) when James VI of Scotland (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/James_VI_of_Scotland) was declared King of England and Ireland in what was known as the Union of the Crowns (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Union_of_the_Crowns). After James VII of Scotland (II of England) (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/James_II_of_England) was deposed in 1688 (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution) amid Catholic-Protestant disputes, and as the line of Protestant Stuarts showed signs of failing (as indeed occurred in 1714), English fears that Scotland would go its own way led to the formal union of the two kingdoms in 1707, with the Treaty of Union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union) and subsequent Acts of Union (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Act_of_Union_1707), to form the Kingdom of Great Britain (http://forum.caithness.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Britain)
Is the above right or wrong ?
Therefore, if anything, by your own text above, I am a Kingdomist. In fact, a serf, a subject, a prole.
How entirely predictable if you can't attack the argument, attack the person. Such are the ways of cyberats. A bit of name calling a bit of entirely baseless assumption I'm rather disappointed that you can't at least try and be intellectual and original but then why would I expect any kind of higher level cerebral interaction with someone so obviously blinded by bigoted opinion.
Some-one like yourself Better Together. You do post a lot of crap.
BetterTogether
24-Mar-15, 10:24
Some-one like yourself Better Together. You do post a lot of crap.Well your post isn't on topic and deliberately designed to inflame or provoke so I shall just leave your blatant attempt at trolling for the moderators to deal with .
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