Petrol - Again!!

[tip top]

The last time I looked, Dunnets and Elm Tree were selling their fuel at the same price as tesco.
When I was driving through Wick today they were both 2p a litre more expensive than the Tesco price.
I must admit I have not really being paying much attention to the prices lately and perhaps they have been more expensive since sometime.
It could not possibly be that the owners are taking advantage of the recent press about Tesco/Morrison fuels?

[JAWS]

That's a terrible suggestion, I can't believe anybody could think such a thing. :roll:

The pathetic excuse for the increases is the problem of making up for the loss of the contaminated fuel.
Seeing that the only fuel affected was petrol then why has the price of diesel increased also?

Couldn't be because the big Oil companies hope everybody will be beating a path to their pumps, could it?

[Julia]

I have been told that Dunnet's petrol is of a better quality than Tesco, I know there is a whole other thread about the recent supermarket petrol problems but locally does anyone know who sells the best grade petrol?

[ABC]

Seemingly the difference between the fuel from Shell Esso etc is all to do with the additives that are put into it, to make it better quality. Seemingly tesco don't use any additives

[golach]

All Scotlands Diesel and Petrol comes from Grangemouth and its is a BP refinery, its all the same

[Julia]

All Scotlands Diesel and Petrol comes from Grangemouth and its is a BP refinery, its all the same

So in a nutshell the petrol at Tesco and the petrol at Dunnet's is the same...

[golach]

Only saying thats where its refined, maybe Dunnets and Tesco get different deals, but IMO its all the same, but I am not a PetroChemical boffin

[theone]

I have been told that Dunnet's petrol is of a better quality than Tesco, I know there is a whole other thread about the recent supermarket petrol problems but locally does anyone know who sells the best grade petrol?

North of Inverness there is NO DIFFERENCE in petrol. If you buy from ESSO, Shell, BP it doesn't matter, it all comes from the same refinery and storage tanks.

Thats why you can't get optimax fuel up here, all our fuel comes from one place.

[Kenn]

From what I have read and heard reported Tescos and Morrisons do not purchase their fuel from refineries in this country but rather shop around the world for the cheapest and then have it shipped in. They are well known for buying from The Eastern Block countries so the fact that their fuel supplies were contaminated brokers no surprise.Pay rubbish prices , expect rubbish goods.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6409025.stm

[Cattach]

I have been told that Dunnet's petrol is of a better quality than Tesco, I know there is a whole other thread about the recent supermarket petrol problems but locally does anyone know who sells the best grade petrol?

Does that mean that Dunnet's petrol in Thurso is of even better quality than Dunnets in Wick as the Thurso Dunnets are chanrging anything between three and five pence a ltire more or is it just the company's continued contempt for their customers?

[pentlander]

So in a nutshell the petrol at Tesco and the petrol at Dunnet's is the same...
Not true I am afraid. The additives for a lot of the oil companies is added to the tankers it has nothing to do with the refinery.
True that all petrol is handled by Grangemouth and Elsemere port but it is what is added to it that makes the difference.
People can believe what they like but supermarket petrol is an inferior product. If you have an older car that won't make a blind bit of difference.

[pentlander]

Does that mean that Dunnet's petrol in Thurso is of even better quality than Dunnets in Wick as the Thurso Dunnets are chanrging anything between three and five pence a ltire more or is it just the company's continued contempt for their customers?
Do you accuse Tescos of contempt for it's customers when the price of thier petrol is 3p per litre lower in Inverness than wick.

[peter macdonald]

Just what kinda additives were the locals putting in before Tesco arrived and pulled the prices down??? Must have been very very expensive ones to justify the price difference that existed then

[The Angel Of Death]

Do you accuse Tescos of contempt for it's customers when the price of thier petrol is 3p per litre lower in Inverness than wick.

Over a 100 mile range i would expect a difference of a few pence but over a 20 mile distance surely not do the company's ship the petrol from wick to thurso on rocket plane to justify the 4 - 5 p difference

[pentlander]

Over a 100 mile range i would expect a difference of a few pence but over a 20 mile distance surely not do the company's ship the petrol from wick to thurso on rocket plane to justify the 4 - 5 p difference
20 miles 100m is does not matter. Its called the local market. Each company will try to make the most they can in that market. Don't be so daft as to think Tescos are providing a public service. The price will soon change once the competition is gone. I have no vested interest and I could not give toss about two or three pence I fill up at the nearest garage when the light comes on.

[peter macdonald]

[QUOTE=pentlander;. Don't be so daft as to think Tescos are providing a public service. The price will soon change once the competition is gone.


You mean we will just be back where were before then !!! Remember pre Tescos all these locals indulging in cutthroat competion to keep the petrol prices in Caithness down
Aye right!!!
PM
ps I always thought it weird that a couple of years ago I could get my diesel cheaper in Lochinver and Durness cheaper than in Wick

[Cattach]

Do you accuse Tescos of contempt for it's customers when the price of thier petrol is 3p per litre lower in Inverness than wick.

I hardly think you can compare the situation 110 miles away with that locally where the two garages are getting the same petrol, in the same tanker from the same source.
In any event the way that Dunnets have treated their Thurso customers and indeed their Wick ones is quite contemptible. It took Tescos to prove they were overcharging in Wick and they still do in Thurso.

[pentlander]

I hardly think you can compare the situation 110 miles away with that locally where the two garages are getting the same petrol, in the same tanker from the same source.
In any event the way that Dunnets have treated their Thurso customers and indeed their Wick ones is quite contemptible. It took Tescos to prove they were overcharging in Wick and they still do in Thurso.
Why is it contemptible to make money. If Dunnets in Thurso wants to charge more than wick you have the choice to go to wick.
Just like the Mount pleaseant Co-op or the Spar in Ormlie I dare say the tins of beans in there are a few pence more than in the big co-op you have the choice convenience comes at a price.
Market price in Thurso is say £1 per litre why would a garage say ah but its 95p in Wick lets price it at that. The cost of Fuel in Wick has no impact on the cost in Thurso. Why should it?

[young]

Why is it contemptible to make money. If Dunnets in Thurso wants to charge more than wick you have the choice to go to wick.
Just like the Mount pleaseant Co-op or the Spar in Ormlie I dare say the tins of beans in there are a few pence more than in the big co-op you have the choice convenience comes at a price.
Market price in Thurso is say £1 per litre why would a garage say ah but its 95p in Wick lets price it at that. The cost of Fuel in Wick has no impact on the cost in Thurso. Why should it?

Is dunnets in Thurso and Dunnets in wick not run by the same people. maybe iam wrong as is richards in wick and thurso run by the same people????

So why the difference in price???:confused

co-op in thurso has the same prices as the one in wick same with sommerfield lidls e.t.c

[The_man_from_del_monte]

A bit off topic but I used to live not too far away from Cupar in Fife, they used to have 6 ("six") petrol stations there which were all very handy being "just off the road". Tesco came to town and within 1 year all of the 6 petrol stations were gone so you had no alternative than to drive to "tesco" to get petrol along with everyone else. I'd rather pay a couple of extra pence and keep the local guys in business rather than give it to Tesco..... a few of the garages in Cupar used to even come out and fill up your tank for you and call you "sir".... I like that and have no time for these pile em high sell em low joints which have as much personality as a house brick.

[Cattach]

A bit off topic but I used to live not too far away from Cupar in Fife, they used to have 6 ("six") petrol stations there which were all very handy being "just off the road". Tesco came to town and within 1 year all of the 6 petrol stations were gone so you had no alternative than to drive to "tesco" to get petrol along with everyone else. I'd rather pay a couple of extra pence and keep the local guys in business rather than give it to Tesco..... a few of the garages in Cupar used to even come out and fill up your tank for you and call you "sir".... I like that and have no time for these pile em high sell em low joints which have as much personality as a house brick.

Have to say I have had far more good manners and just general pleasantness from the people at Tesco Wick than from most of the other caithness shark like owners - though that does not include their under paid employees who are generally pretty friendly which is a credit to them when they have had the flak over their bosses greed. In fact, I have a lot of chat when at tesco petrol in Wick with whoever is on duty

[The_man_from_del_monte]

Have to say I have had far more good manners and just general pleasantness from the people at Tesco Wick than from most of the other caithness shark like owners - though that does not include their under paid employees who are generally pretty friendly which is a credit to them when they have had the flak over their bosses greed. In fact, I have a lot of chat when at tesco petrol in Wick with whoever is on duty

Different strokes for different folks YMMV

[lasher]

Not true I am afraid. The additives for a lot of the oil companies is added to the tankers it has nothing to do with the refinery.
True that all petrol is handled by Grangemouth and Elsemere port but it is what is added to it that makes the difference.
People can believe what they like but supermarket petrol is an inferior product. If you have an older car that won't make a blind bit of difference.
Been telling people this for ages, filled my car up once at tescos ages ago and it didn't run right, didn't have the same pull and backfired now and again on lift off! I only buy oil company fuel now if i can.

[Humerous Vegetable]

I saw an item in today's P&J about an online petition to campaign against the outrageous fuel prices in the far north. It's being run by the prospective Labour party candidate for the Holyrood elections, and okay, it's a bit of electioneering but seeing as how it's the first time a politican has ever shown any concern about how we are discriminated against up here, I've signed it. It's at http://www.johnmckendrick.com/fuelpricepetition As I was driving back from filling up at Tescos today (an extra 3p a litre off with the shopping) I passed the garage in Castletown which is selling unleaded at 94.9p!

[pentlander]

I saw an item in today's P&J about an online petition to campaign against the outrageous fuel prices in the far north. It's being run by the prospective Labour party candidate for the Holyrood elections, and okay, it's a bit of electioneering but seeing as how it's the first time a politican has ever shown any concern about how we are discriminated against up here, I've signed it. It's at http://www.johnmckendrick.com/fuelpricepetition As I was driving back from filling up at Tescos today (an extra 3p a litre off with the shopping) I passed the garage in Castletown which is selling unleaded at 94.9p!
Blatant electioneering dont fall for it.

[Humerous Vegetable]

Blatant electioneering dont fall for it.

Fall for what, complaining about constantly being ripped-off?

[pentlander]

Fall for what, complaining about constantly being ripped-off?
No, for a politician trying to be associted with a populist cause even if he can do all about it

[jaykay]

No, for a politician trying to be associted with a populist cause even if he can do all about it

Especially a politician whose party has been in power for the last lot of years and have never tried to do anything about the cost of fuel except to increase the tax on it.

[Humerous Vegetable]

I hold no brief for New Labour; the last time I voted socialist, they were still Old Labour. I just feel that we should take every opportunity we get to complain about the postcode discrimination we are subjected to up here, whether it be fuel prices, lack of job opportunities or courier charges. Sitting back with your mouth shut and accepting inequality will mean nothing ever improves and companies feel justified in treating us as second class citizens.

[pentlander]

I hold no brief for New Labour; the last time I voted socialist, they were still Old Labour. I just feel that we should take every opportunity we get to complain about the postcode discrimination we are subjected to up here, whether it be fuel prices, lack of job opportunities or courier charges. Sitting back with your mouth shut and accepting inequality will mean nothing ever improves and companies feel justified in treating us as second class citizens.
Ive never felt like a second rate citizen. I like living here.
Maybe you would prefer to live in London loads of jobs there and pay £10 per day to drive your car or £200k for a 2 bed flat. Spend hours per day stuck in endless jams burning litres of fuel and breathing it in.
I personally am quite happy and if that means 3p per litre more Im not going to set fire to my hair about it.

[peter macdonald]

Especially a politician whose party has been in power for the last lot of years and have never tried to do anything about the cost of fuel except to increase the tax on it.

Aye the only thing they have not taxed is the cost of honours they flogged to their party donors (alledgedly!!)