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piratelassie
29-Sep-12, 20:20
Surely another good reason to vote Yes in the 2014 referendum is that after independence we would no longer have to suffer another Tory gov. in Scotland. I know its a con-dem at the moment. After all Scotland is historically a socalist country.
weezer 316
29-Sep-12, 20:26
As opposed to the parties who have bankrupted this country!?!?!
After all Scotland is historically a socalist country.
Does history not go as far back as 1955?
piratelassie
29-Sep-12, 21:20
Does history not go as far back as 1955? Yes but that was nearly 60 yrs ago. we have moved on.
. we have moved on.
That's nice, so what is the relevance of Scotland being "historically a socialist country?"
Yes but that was nearly 60 yrs ago. we have moved on.
Scotland was independant 305 years ago, but to use your argument...... we have moved on ;)
Scotland was independant 305 years ago, but to use your argument...... we have moved on ;)
Aye and back then Scotland was bankrupt, do we wish that again?
Quite looking forward to Independence. It'll guarantee that in England there will be permanent Tory governments. I'm sure these English governments of the future will be scrupulously fair when it comes to any dispute (especially over money) between the hated, grasping Tories so viscerally loathed in "socialist" Scotland, and the Brave New World of Free Caledonia.
piratelassie
30-Sep-12, 00:31
Can any unionist explain to me why the rest of the UK is so keen to sustain the status quo if Scotland is "apparently" a drain on UK funds?
explain to me why the rest of the UK is so keen to sustain the status quo
Because they think Scottish independence is daft. Are they wrong?
Can any unionist explain to me why the rest of the UK is so keen to sustain the status quo if Scotland is "apparently" a drain on UK funds?
If you are talking about the people, they are not. Most couldn't give a toss. The ones that go on holiday to Scotland might not if it is felt that it is less convenient. But otherwise they either don't care or are actively for it.
piratelassie
30-Sep-12, 13:38
If you are talking about the people, they are not. Most couldn't give a toss. The ones that go on holiday to Scotland might not if it is felt that it is less convenient. But otherwise they either don't care or are actively for it. I was referring to the UK MPs.
I was referring to the UK MPs.
It's just 'cause they think they should :lol:
It's just 'cause they think they should :lol:
Not so much "'cause they think they should" but more 'cause they are told they should by the party line & if they don't toe the party line then their career prospects go out the window & career prospects are far more important to them than saying & acting on what they truly believe.
Surely another good reason to vote Yes in the 2014 referendum is that after independence we would no longer have to suffer another Tory gov. in Scotland. I know its a con-dem at the moment. After all Scotland is historically a socalist country.
Surely the real argument for Scottish Independence should be that no matter who is in charge at Holyrood (incl. the tories) then we would be living in a better nation? If your main reason for voting Yes is that you are ridding yourselves of right wing politics then I think you are deeply misguided.
i think that those of us who have a tendency to be right of centre will actually be better served in an independent Scotland. If there is a YES vote there is likely to be a rejig of the political landscape and hopefully a new centre right party which doesnt carry the baggage that the tories do will emerge. We shall see .....
i think that those of us who have a tendency to be right of centre will actually be better served in an independent Scotland. If there is a YES vote there is likely to be a rejig of the political landscape and hopefully a new centre right party which doesnt carry the baggage that the tories do will emerge. We shall see .....
I would put serious money on you whistling in the wind! :lol:
I would put serious money on you whistling in the wind! :lol:
Would that serious money be British Pounds or one of Eck's Euros?
secrets in symmetry
30-Sep-12, 20:17
Does anyone think any of the forum's wimmen for secession might be the Leckie Monster in disguise? Their comments are equally vapid.
! cant understand why people wh oppose independence get so worked up about it , especially if they dont live here.Personally, I coulnt care less what happens south of the border, it doesnt concern me !
secrets in symmetry
30-Sep-12, 20:51
! cant understand why people wh oppose independence get so worked up about it , especially if they dont live here.Personally, I coulnt care less what happens south of the border, it doesnt concern me !Is this an example of the outward looking Scotland that EcknNick tell us that the People of Scotland can look forward to?
piratelassie
30-Sep-12, 20:59
Surely the real argument for Scottish Independence should be that no matter who is in charge at Holyrood (incl. the tories) then we would be living in a better nation? If your main reason for voting Yes is that you are ridding yourselves of right wing politics then I think you are deeply misguided. I feel I must point out this is far from my main reason for voting Yes in the referendum, but to me its a bonus.
secrets in symmetry
30-Sep-12, 23:11
Would that serious money be British Pounds or one of Eck's Euros?Now, there's a thought. Eck's People's Republic of Eckland could name its currency after him....
The Euro won't stand a chance against Eckland's all-powerful Ecko! :cool:
Not so much "'cause they think they should" but more 'cause they are told they should by the party line & if they don't toe the party line then their career prospects go out the window & career prospects are far more important to them than saying & acting on what they truly believe.
So you think UK MPs are closet Scottish Nationalists? :lol: Ed Milliband is, judging by his last utterence on the subject. What a pratt!
So you think UK MPs are closet Scottish Nationalists? :lol: Ed Milliband is, judging by his last utterence on the subject. What a pratt!
I'm talking in general, politicians are like good little sheep doing whatever the whips tell them to do.
I'm talking in general, politicians are like good little sheep doing whatever the whips tell them to do.
Well they wouldn't be much use to the party otherwise would they? I don't get it. Why would you want your MP, whose party you voted for, to appose the party policies? :confused
Well they wouldn't be much use to the party otherwise would they? I don't get it. Why would you want your MP, whose party you voted for, to appose the party policies? :confused
Because I don't like Party politics. An MP should be there to represent their constituents not their party...
Because I don't like Party politics. An MP should be there to represent their constituents not their party...
Well...vote for an independent then. :roll:
I will if there is an Independent worth voting for, most are one issue candidates standing on an issue I have little or no interest in...
Because of the party system we have anybody who is serious about politics feels like they have no choice but to join a party if they are to have any hope of getting anywhere, so I end up voting for the best of a bad bunch.
I will if there is an Independent worth voting for, most are one issue candidates standing on an issue I have little or no interest in...
Because of the party system we have anybody who is serious about politics feels like they have no choice but to join a party if they are to have any hope of getting anywhere, so I end up voting for the best of a bad bunch.
Then stand yourself and I will vote for you.
Then stand yourself and I will vote for you.
No you wont. you wouldn't like my policies.
No you wont. you wouldn't like my policies.
Go on...try me. this should be good:eek:
Go on...try me. this should be good:eek:
Give me a policy area that you would like to know my opinion on then?
Give me a policy area that you would like to know my opinion on then?
Speed limits
Speed limits
I only ask because I'm OK with everything else.
Speed limits
Abolish them, just use dangerous driving laws to clamp down on idiotic drivers.
Next...
Abolish them, just use dangerous driving laws to clamp down on idiotic drivers.
Next...
I don't agree. 20 mph through my village. (and yours if you like).
I don't agree. 20 mph through my village. (and yours if you like).
So, I guess you won't be voting for me then.
So, I guess you won't be voting for me then.
Not if you can't even get that right! :mad:
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