Labrador puppies for sale

[wrightchatterbox]

http://forum.caithness.org/images/icons/icon1.png Labradors puppies for sale



:o) 3 lovely lively labrador puppies left to rehome

1 yellow boy & 2 black boys
Born 15th January 2011(almost 7 weeks old:lol:)
Pedigree & Kc Reg
Parents working dogs
Contact Charlie 07944800295 or 01847895334

[caithgal]

Good luck with finding new homes for them. Sure they are beautiful.

[wrightchatterbox]

1 black boy & 1 yellow boy left
Have you got a loving home for my boys?
(Samson & Shep)

[wrightchatterbox]

a wee update
1 black boy Samson
left to rehome
Vet has visited and checked Mollie & pups - 'happy healthy puppies'
'a bit on the podgy side' (so obviously eating too well oops!):lol:
so am delighted with all forever homes so far
:D

[wrightchatterbox]

:D
another wee update
Thanks for all the genuine orgers interest


All puppies have now gone to forever homes
Couldnt be happier with their new families
Good Luck to all the lucky new owners
Keep in touch
:)

[_Ju_]

Good luck to every new owner. Your work is going to be harder than it has to be.
Wrightchatterbox, you might call what I am bout to write bitching, a personal attack, threatening or whatever you would like, but patting yourself on the back for having sold these puppies at such a young age only compounds the impression I have of your ignorance of the welfare of the animals you are breeding. I suspect that your answer will be the usual vague non-answer or self congratulatory post. I would prefer however that you explain why you think it is ok to sell them at 5/6 weeks and why you think all the literature is wrong about them needing socializing. I doubt that you will enter into that debate though so I am guessing that your usual non-answer will be the last word on the matter.

[unicornleather]

Well said Ju !

[wrightchatterbox]

Here we go again[disgust]
All puppies and the bitch are doing well
eating well (too well actually), socializing well with humans and other pets
Have been checked by local Vet
who stated mother was at a good healthy age for mating
and puppies were all healthy & happy
no concerns for them being rehomed (thats from a professional)
Can I just say that it doesnt make alot of difference how old they are 6-7 or 8 weeks
a good home is the main concern on my behalf
And I have no worries there
I do have a question for you though Ju
What is your problem?
My puppies are healthy, happy and now in good loving forever homes.
I am one happy lady

[wrightchatterbox]

I would prefer however that you explain why you think it is ok to sell them at 5/6 weeks and why you think all the literature is wrong about them needing socializing
[disgust]
no puppies left at 5 weeks Ju
go back and read your org. literature:lol:

[Dadie]

I would rather wait and get a nicely socialised puppy at 8 weeks old.
As it does make a big difference.
Im seriously thinking about a puppy, either a Springer spaniel or a lab, but, wont touch the ads that let them go sooner than 8 weeks!
It weeds out the decent people having a litter of pups than the bad quite quickly before getting into the hip scoring and health check questions.

[wrightchatterbox]

[disgust] u ppl? So you have decided Im not a decent person then Dadie?
Glad I dont know you
Dont know if this kind of posting is acceptable
but will definitely be finding out

[Dadie]

All the things you need to find out before you even see the pups.
As if you dont get all the info first you could make a very costly choice down the line, by letting your heart rule, instead of your head.
So many bad breeders and pups bred without people knowing the history of the parents or wanting their work to be over by shipping them out earlier than they should be.
Its the first thing in an ad that crosses them off my list before I look into the pups further...

[Shabbychic]

All the things you need to find out before you even see the pups.
As if you dont get all the info first you could make a very costly choice down the line, by letting your heart rule, instead of your head.
So many bad breeders and pups bred without people knowing the history of the parents or wanting their work to be over by shipping them out earlier than they should be.
Its the first thing in an ad that crosses them off my list before I look into the pups further...

Well why haven't you just crossed this breeder off your list, and let her get on with finding good homes for her puppies? I think she has already got the message loud and clear about what some people think, so why keep going on and on about it?

[AliciaMackinnon]

I am gald that your beautiful pups have found forever homes!

It's a real shame that some people feel the need to open there mouths and let there belly rumble!

I am sure you homeing them when you did was best for them.

My mother in law's bitch daisy has had a couple of litters that I have helped with and they were all put up for sale at 8weeks although they were weaned at 5 (put onto puppy food) Most of the pups didnt actually leave until the 12 week wich was no problem for us!

The bitch will soon tell you when shes had enough of her pups lol

I don't agree with what people say on hear sometimes I believe that people just use the org to moan.

Anyway if I am ever lucky enough to get pups I probs wont be selling them on here in frear of someone saying I am doing wrong!

good luck!

[corkey]

I am gald that your beautiful pups have found forever homes!

It's a real shame that some people feel the need to open there mouths and let there belly rumble!

I am sure you homeing them when you did was best for them.

My mother in law's bitch daisy has had a couple of litters that I have helped with and they were all put up for sale at 8weeks although they were weaned at 5 (put onto puppy food) Most of the pups didnt actually leave until the 12 week wich was no problem for us!

The bitch will soon tell you when shes had enough of her pups lol

I don't agree with what people say on hear sometimes I believe that people just use the org to moan.

Anyway if I am ever lucky enough to get pups I probs wont be selling them on here in frear of someone saying I am doing wrong!

good luck!



Well put!! I got my beautiful wee girl home yest, she has settled in great, very well behaved and very clean. Thank you very much wrightchatterbox! Corkey x

[_Ju_]

I do not know crustyroll (in person or virtually) or any other dog breeders in caithness, Wrightchatterbox. I have no pets other than a syberian hamster at the moment. I have never bred dogs, though my father had a very wrong idea that bitches should have a litter before being spayed. But that was a different time and even a different country. You advertised the dogs ready to go one week after their fifth week "birthday". Hence 5/6 weeks. I will withdraw the 5 weeks ( let us say that the wording of you add, saying there were 3 "left" gave me the impression that some had already even left) and give you the six weeks then supposing that "the rest" had already been reserved by other people but not yet homed. Will you now please tell me why you ignore to answer the question of socialization?

[wrightchatterbox]

i have already answered this question a number of times Ju
The pups are perfectly socialized to people and animals!
I have 1 greyhound lurcher, 1 shetland collie, 1 labrador & now 1 labrador pup
Plus 4 children
So I think I have more experience with animals than yourself dont you?

[crustyroll]

[CENTER]Have been checked by local Vet
who stated mother was at a good healthy age for mating

That is so wrong as well, if the Kennel Club and the Labrador Club of Scotland advocate that a bitch isnt bred from before the age of two, hasn't anyone stopped to ask why??? Vets are trained but it doesn't mean they are always right, doctors are the same. If I listened to ever word my vet said then my dog wouldn't have a problem with her thyroid and still be feeling poorly. I DIDN'T listen to my vet and got a second opinion from a specialist - she is now on medication which the vet is happy to prescribe and she is feeling a lot better.

Some bitches do mature earlier than others but as their bones arent even fully hardened until they are approximately 18 months old, doesn't that mean they haven't fully finished growing before they are being put into motherhood.

I'm glad the puppies are away to homes and have settled well, I would never wish any ill on them but I know from personal experience that if ANY puppy isn't socialised properly during the first 6 months then there can be big problems later on.

[crustyroll]

I do not know crustyroll (in person or virtually) or any other dog breeders in caithness, Wrightchatterbox.

My friend has a similiar name so they probably thought you were sticking up for me! I have no idea who you are and to be honest I don't need to know who anyone is on the org unless it directly affects me, which has happened recently.

The people that genuinely know me, know what my morals are and how I care for my dogs - those that don't take the time aren't worth knowing or are only in it for something else.

[_Ju_]

i have already answered this question a number of times Ju
The pups are perfectly socialized to people and animals!
I have 1 greyhound lurcher, 1 shetland collie, 1 labrador & now 1 labrador pup
Plus 4 children
So I think I have more experience with animals than yourself dont you?
No they are not "perfectly socialized" as they have spent the period of most intense learning away from their litter who would teach them what a human rarely can.
No you do not have more experience with animals than I, unless you have worked with animals every day of your professional life and spent 5 years of University studying them.

As someone has already pointed out to you, the "Breeding and Sale of Dogs (Welfare) Act 1999" states that it is illegal for breeders to sell puppies under 8 weeks of age to potential pet owners. The reason it applies to breeders is that they can be regulated and monitored and have to generate paper trails. Because this legislation is not directed at you as an amature home breeder does not excuse you from the fact that this legislation exists for the benefit of the puppies and that you breached it.

[AliciaMackinnon]

ok everyone is thinking it so im guna say it!

What the H***?

I think this thread should be deleted before someone really put's there foot in it!

Some people just cant stop!

Everyone should be delighted that the pups have found loving homes! Im sure that the pups will be just fine so why doesn't everyone just drop it and stop ripping at Wrighchatterbox!!

I feel sorry for anyone that is/was going to advertise pups on here.... what must they be thinking?

In my opinion sertain comments will have put sellers of posting on here... so well done that sertain few now we all have to suffer!

[Dadie]

Not so long ago puppy ads were not allowed on the org.
As it would mean that dog breeders could advertise the same as someone just having one litter and their ads should be in the buisness section.
These rules were relaxed, but, there should be rules attached to ads pertaining to the sale/giving away free of baby animals.
The same rules as regarding to licenced breeders of the animal in question would be a good starting point!
Never mind the puppies, but, there are kittens and bunnies going far to early as well.
And anyway they should be in the for sale section under pets!
If they are in the pets corner, they are open to discussion.

[caithgal]

I think the point has definately been put across by the this post and the original one. Each person has their own point of view. Personally i would be very disappointed in a vet saying that puppies can be homed at 6 weeks and would not use their services again. This is definatley far too early regardless of any situation. However there are merits placed on rehoming after 7 weeks and the kennel club recommends 8 weeks and upwards but say that 7 weeks is acceptable also in some circumstances. For example my dog has an abcess being treated by antibiotics at the moment and she can tolerate feeding at times (though i really dont know how she can stand it as it looks so painful) but i have been advised to not let her feed as this is making the problem worse. The pups are all feeding solids well and are having puppy milk also and are positively thriving. So i have had to reassess the situation and one of the pups is being homed at 7 weeks with 3 others at 7 and half weeks and the other (due to the family having already booked a holiday prior to having their pup) going at 9 weeks. I feel this is being responsible to the pups as well as my own bitch. So there are def some reasons for homing slightly early. And if you wouldnt accept a pup prior to 8 weeks for a genuine reason then that is your perogative. Im not having a go at anyone and i frimly believe that this post should be closed and not brought up again. Everyone have had their say and opinions have been aired. Some will agree some will not but then thats the way of the world. The kennel club also state that females should not be bred until at least 2 years old due to maturity and that they are not fully grown. So whilst i disagree with a female being bred at such and early age i dont feel that it is my place to condemn an owner. At the end of the day if anyone is thinking of owning a puppy then these are the things they will look for. I know it was when i took that decision. So let this all be an end to it. Oh and sertain is spelt certain.

[crustyroll]

Some people just cant stop!

Nope, that's me then. I have nothing to hide and everything to gain if I can just get even ONE person to read up and fully understand the health problems with Labradors. They are a wonderful breed, lets keep them that way, far too many problems are creeping into gene pool, aggression being one of them and this is NOT a good thing to happen.

[_Ju_]

Some people just cant stop!

Everyone should be delighted that the pups have found loving homes! Im sure that the pups will be just fine so why doesn't everyone just drop it and stop ripping at Wrighchatterbox!!

I feel sorry for anyone that is/was going to advertise pups on here.... what must they be thinking?

In my opinion sertain comments will have put sellers of posting on here... so well done that sertain few now we all have to suffer!

This one I think is in your eyes my "fault". The original thread advertising the puppies had been locked. A new thread opened for the sale of the rest of the puppies which was left alone UNTIL wrightchatterbox patted him/herself on their back for a job well done. Well, unless you are blinkered it was not a job well done. I do not see it a job well done and is infact contrary to the welfare of the puppies.

wrightchatterbox is not a seller, but a breeder, the difference is important and not subtle. He/she is responsible for bringing these animals into existance. He/she makes the decisions with reagards to the welfare of these animals until they go to their new home. He/she decided when this would happen. While animals are property, their welfare is protected by law. Any breeder of puppies selling them at six weeks has to be scrutinised. In my opinion ( and it is an informed opinion, by the way), a breeder that sells puppies at this age, wether or not they are professional breeders, should be considered in breach of welfare and the animals removed. Unfortunately though law protects animal welfare, they still are a property.

I believe no issue would have been raised about the original advert if wrightchatterbox had kept the puppies to eight weeks of age, but the original add had them ready at 6 weeks to the day going by the breeders word and that is too young.

[wrightchatterbox]

Well why haven't you just crossed this breeder off your list, and let her get on with finding good homes for her puppies? I think she has already got the message loud and clear about what some people think, so why keep going on and on about it?

Well said Thank you
Someone with sense at last

[wrightchatterbox]

[evil] Ju
Not patting myself on the back
If you are an animal lover as you state then you would understand the delight in having found 6 wonderful homes for my puppies!!!!!!

[Dadie]

If the breeder didnt want a lengthy debate, they should of put the ad in the for sale section, not the pets corner as where it is, is for discussing things and debate is encouraged.
The for sale section is for selling things.
If it was in the for sale section it wouldnt have caught so many peoples attention, and most would not post on a for sale ad.
Just shudder inwardly....

[pretty green eyes]

Just shudder inwardly....[/QUOTE]

Agreed!!

[_Ju_]

[evil] Ju
If you are an animal lover as you state then you would understand the delight in having found 6 wonderful homes for my puppies!!!!!!

If you are an animal lover as you state then you would understand my concern with you rehoming your puppies at six weeks of age.

[Dadie]

If anyone wants to know what health problems a Lab can have after being used for puppies and puppies and puppies from too early an age in a badly run puppy farm,where the health checks were not carried out well, I can tell you the problems my Poppy dog has now and what she was like when we got her from Balmore.
For starters she had really scabby skin with sores in places, wasnt housetrained at 3 yo, boobs an inch long, scared of people and yucky ears.
Now acute pancreaitis and hip problems, and still doesnt really like to be in the same room as visitors, but, will stay if she has too.
And yes she was an impulse buy ... I couldnt leave her there..we had a trial with her and she never went back!
Tried to insure her when we got her but we were too honest about the condition she was in, her ears and skin and hips and lady bits were uninsurable.

[wrightchatterbox]

:confused sorry whats your point again?
Oh yeh socialization
surely not all animals that are homed at 6 or 7weeks are socially inadequate, bad tempered and untrainable???????:( Non of my dogs ever have been. Or any pet I've had. Surely its the training and upbringing the dog recieves that wholely determines that?
I once raised a kitten from birth..... he was perfect! Healthy. house trained, friendly & happy until he passed away naturally!

[wrightchatterbox]

If anyone wants to know what health problems a Lab can have after being used for puppies and puppies and puppies from too early an age in a badly run puppy farm,where the health checks were not carried out well, I can tell you the problems my Poppy dog has now and what she was like when we got her from Balmore.
For starters she had really scabby skin with sores in places, wasnt housetrained at 3 yo, boobs an inch long, scared of people and yucky ears.
Now acute pancreaitis and hip problems, and still doesnt really like to be in the same room as visitors, but, will stay if she has too.
And yes she was an impulse buy ... I couldnt leave her there..we had a trial with her and she never went back!
Tried to insure her when we got her but we were too honest about the condition she was in, her ears and skin and hips and lady bits were uninsurable.
God that is awful! but thats a case of neglect and mistreatment....that owners should have been brought to justice by law. I hope that you are not putting me in the same category! That really would disgust me.