bekisman
01-Mar-11, 19:39
I see the first lot of redundancies in the Armed Forces are being planned *
I can understand that maybe cuts have to be made, BUT in the climate of world uncertainty, seems a tad stupid..
Additionally with fewer - for example - Squaddies - to undertake tours of duty in Afghan, obviously means shorter time between tours. A lot of married folks in the Army, getting jarred off with too many stints, coming around too soon, will stick in their notices. Result; less squaddies for other theatres; simples..
The Forces have not changed, man-management is still crap. Me, I had served 9 of my 15 years in Germany and was informed by Army Records that I could have a posting of my choice in UK.. Well I was in the process of going through a divorce, and requested a posting to a unit that was based in UK and did not go outside of the country.. I was notified by Regiment this was fine. What happened? I was notified by Records, nope, you're off to an Airfield Construction unit that's in Canada, comes back in a month then off to Africa for another 9 months.. What prats these are.. So I put in my Notice and purchased my discharge.. (This was 1977)..
Zoom forward to 2003 My eldest son was in the Army and had completed his time.. Goes off to Canada, arranges to get married, everything finalised... what happens? although he's out of the army, he is still called back from Canada and ordered out to Iraq (still on reserve you see).. so Wedding knackered..
Again zoom onto 2011. Middle son in Germany, getting remarried on 9th July...All details arranged. Army says, nope, you're off to Iraq.. he whines a bit.. Ok they say, you can go to Gibraltar instead, but that does not end till beginning of August - so another wedding knackered.. Man-management? nah they ain't got a bloody clue (and that's just 'our lot' over 30 odd years..) [evil]
The Ministry of Defence says the first wave of redundancies in the armed forces will be made in September. The MoD must make 11,000 job cuts and the RAF is the first service to set out where its share of 2,700 will begin. Those on operations in Afghanistan in September will be exempt, but troops due back in April could lose their jobs, it has been announced.
A review has found that, after natural wastage, a total of 11,000 redundancies will have to be made in three or four tranches.
The RAF is the first service to set out details of its plans, with the first 1,020 jobs due to go in September.
Up to 170 trainee pilots will be made redundant, although the RAF says no qualified pilots will be affected. Another 100 posts will go from the Weapons System Officers Branch, 100 from the Weapons System Operator Trade, along with 529 ground staff.Two Tornado squadrons will be disbanded - 14 Squadron based at Lossiemouth in Moray, and XIII Squadron from Marham in Norfolk.
Their personnel will not automatically be made redundant. In the short term they will be found other jobs, probably in different locations.
"We did not take any of these decisions lightly," he said, "and they will have a difficult impact on the people involved in the RAF, the Navy and the Army and their families, and we will do everything we can to help them. But it is right to make the decision."
In September, servicemen and women who are on operations - or in training to be deployed, or recovering from a mission - will not face compulsory redundancy.
However, those currently serving in Afghanistan and due to return home in April will be considered.
Mr Murphy added: "It's remarkable that in the week when the prime minister and the government are talking about a no-fly zone over Libya, amid all the turmoil that's happening there, they now turn their attention to our own RAF and sack so many trainee pilots."
The Army is looking to cut 5,000 jobs and the Royal Navy 3,300. They will set out their fields for redundancy on 4 April.
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12609173
I can understand that maybe cuts have to be made, BUT in the climate of world uncertainty, seems a tad stupid..
Additionally with fewer - for example - Squaddies - to undertake tours of duty in Afghan, obviously means shorter time between tours. A lot of married folks in the Army, getting jarred off with too many stints, coming around too soon, will stick in their notices. Result; less squaddies for other theatres; simples..
The Forces have not changed, man-management is still crap. Me, I had served 9 of my 15 years in Germany and was informed by Army Records that I could have a posting of my choice in UK.. Well I was in the process of going through a divorce, and requested a posting to a unit that was based in UK and did not go outside of the country.. I was notified by Regiment this was fine. What happened? I was notified by Records, nope, you're off to an Airfield Construction unit that's in Canada, comes back in a month then off to Africa for another 9 months.. What prats these are.. So I put in my Notice and purchased my discharge.. (This was 1977)..
Zoom forward to 2003 My eldest son was in the Army and had completed his time.. Goes off to Canada, arranges to get married, everything finalised... what happens? although he's out of the army, he is still called back from Canada and ordered out to Iraq (still on reserve you see).. so Wedding knackered..
Again zoom onto 2011. Middle son in Germany, getting remarried on 9th July...All details arranged. Army says, nope, you're off to Iraq.. he whines a bit.. Ok they say, you can go to Gibraltar instead, but that does not end till beginning of August - so another wedding knackered.. Man-management? nah they ain't got a bloody clue (and that's just 'our lot' over 30 odd years..) [evil]
The Ministry of Defence says the first wave of redundancies in the armed forces will be made in September. The MoD must make 11,000 job cuts and the RAF is the first service to set out where its share of 2,700 will begin. Those on operations in Afghanistan in September will be exempt, but troops due back in April could lose their jobs, it has been announced.
A review has found that, after natural wastage, a total of 11,000 redundancies will have to be made in three or four tranches.
The RAF is the first service to set out details of its plans, with the first 1,020 jobs due to go in September.
Up to 170 trainee pilots will be made redundant, although the RAF says no qualified pilots will be affected. Another 100 posts will go from the Weapons System Officers Branch, 100 from the Weapons System Operator Trade, along with 529 ground staff.Two Tornado squadrons will be disbanded - 14 Squadron based at Lossiemouth in Moray, and XIII Squadron from Marham in Norfolk.
Their personnel will not automatically be made redundant. In the short term they will be found other jobs, probably in different locations.
"We did not take any of these decisions lightly," he said, "and they will have a difficult impact on the people involved in the RAF, the Navy and the Army and their families, and we will do everything we can to help them. But it is right to make the decision."
In September, servicemen and women who are on operations - or in training to be deployed, or recovering from a mission - will not face compulsory redundancy.
However, those currently serving in Afghanistan and due to return home in April will be considered.
Mr Murphy added: "It's remarkable that in the week when the prime minister and the government are talking about a no-fly zone over Libya, amid all the turmoil that's happening there, they now turn their attention to our own RAF and sack so many trainee pilots."
The Army is looking to cut 5,000 jobs and the Royal Navy 3,300. They will set out their fields for redundancy on 4 April.
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12609173