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cuddlepop
29-Jan-11, 20:39
What on earth is happening to our maternity service?.
A young woman who was having her contractions every 3 and a half minutes, was told to take the bus through to Inverness when she told them they had no car to take her through.
We live on Portree on Skye which is at least a 3hour journey by bus.
On her medical files it clearly states an injection has to be given before delivery.
What would happen if mother nature decided to speed things up?
What if she developed any complications.:(
There are far more questions than answeres to this frightening senario,it was fortunate a friend took the day off and drove them through.
Thankfully baby was delivered safely in Raigmore.
This complaint has been passed onto local concillors but as the NHS appears "deaf" to our concerns over medical cover somehow I can see someone else been told "get the bus" [disgust]
Use 999!
It may not seem like an emergency...but it could soon turn into one!
(I wouldnt have time to go on the bus when I had my kids)
cuddlepop
29-Jan-11, 20:59
Its terrible thats what you have have to do round here to get an ambulance.:(
I’m flummoxed. Is there not a hospital on Skye? Do all 'Mums to be' have to go to Raigmore? Was there a particular reason why this lady couldn’t have her baby on Skye? :confused
IMO there is more to this story than described in the OP.
ShelleyCowie
30-Jan-11, 00:04
I’m flummoxed. Is there not a hospital on Skye? Do all 'Mums to be' have to go to Raigmore? Was there a particular reason why this lady couldn’t have her baby on Skye? :confused
IMO there is more to this story than described in the OP.
There is no labour ward in Skye as far as im aware.
Anyways, that is absolutely disgraceful! Glad mum and baby are doing ok!
has the maternity ward shut in broadford i was born there 26 yrs ago was one of the first when they reopened it they should make there minds up, its becoming a joke, at the wick hospital they can do sections but yet they wont start your labour off and we have to go to inverness even if your waters break up here ur expected to get you own transport down
What on earth is happening to our maternity service?.
A young woman who was having her contractions every 3 and a half minutes, was told to take the bus through to Inverness when she told them they had no car to take her through.
We live on Portree on Skye which is at least a 3hour journey by bus.
On her medical files it clearly states an injection has to be given before delivery.
What would happen if mother nature decided to speed things up?
What if she developed any complications.:(
There are far more questions than answeres to this frightening senario,it was fortunate a friend took the day off and drove them through.
Thankfully baby was delivered safely in Raigmore.
This complaint has been passed onto local concillors but as the NHS appears "deaf" to our concerns over medical cover somehow I can see someone else been told "get the bus" [disgust]
Where is the source for this story?
If the woman knew she had to have an injection before birth and didn't have access to a car, then why were other arrangements not made to cover the scenario that unfolded?
It is just not possible to have medical cover within easy reach in remoter parts of the country.
its just not here either.. when i was in raigmore.. after having a section.. they told me to take the bus home with a new born and after surgery. that they couldnt "order" the hospital bus.. that if one was coming back up the road to wick.. and there was room... but that i wasnt sick.. i had had a baby.. even though i had just had surgery..
i could have been transferred to wick for a few days with ben.. but i had to make my own way up the road.. for a hospital transfer.
cuddlepop
30-Jan-11, 10:49
This was a first baby and they have to be "safely" delivered in Raigmore.
You can have a second baby in Broadford but only with "permission".
No more to this story other than what was posted.
cuddlepop
30-Jan-11, 10:51
"horses mouth" so to speak so it is true. Scorrie.
There are even more frightening events happening for patients living In Rassay.
things have not improved they expect people to stay in kyle court a young girl was suppose to share with 3 men so she made other arrangements for her stay costing the family a fortune if services are being cut in rural area then they should be improving to support these cut in bigger hospital but the goverment seems to be cutting these services as well
Spring Flower
06-Jun-11, 13:42
I am not sure what the problem here is but maybe I am not reading it right! If the woman knew she was needing the injection and had not organised transport herself, did not want to phone an ambulance - how did she expect to get to Inverness [as in what mode of transport, who did she think was going to take her?]
Also regarding transfer back to Wick - was it the hospital or home? If you were discharged to go home it would be presumed you were fit, if not if Raigmore stated you must go to Wick hospital then surely it would have been their responsibility to transfer you.
I have had occasions where my children have been transferred to Inverness and I would never expect for the hospital to arrange transport home......
baby do not arrive on time very often was this poor lady that was told to take the bus one of us that baby comes before the due date perhaps she had transport arrange for when she was booked in on her due date
Spring Flower
06-Jun-11, 14:11
baby do not arrive on time very often was this poor lady that was told to take the bus one of us that baby comes before the due date perhaps she had transport arrange for when she was booked in on her due date
ok starfish - but who did she think was going to take her if she didn't want to phone an ambulance?
ok starfish - but who did she think was going to take her if she didn't want to phone an ambulance?
well in my thinking if you are in need of medical treatment and if that hospital can not cater for it then they will need to transfer you so if let say you are having a heart attack would you except that you make your own way to aberdeen i know this is a bit of a jump from labour but both can be life threaten
Spring Flower
06-Jun-11, 14:24
well in my thinking if you are in need of medical treatment and if that hospital can not cater for it then they will need to transfer you so if let say you are having a heart attack would you except that you make your own way to aberdeen i know this is a bit of a jump from labour but both can be life threaten
yes but if you were having a heart attack would you not dial 999? i just get fed up with people 'blaming' other people the whole time instead of taking responsibility for themselves. fair enough the poor woman was in labour and did not have transport. if her contractions were coming every three and half minutes and she knew that she required specialist treatment [ie the 'injection'] surely she could have been responsible enough and phoned for an ambulance?
i just feel there is more to this. when the woman was having contractions every three and a half minutes who did she call? when 'whoever' said no transport was available, did the woman start phoning around friends when she was having contractions every 3.5 minutes? then endure a long journey to Inverness putting her friend in the awkward position if any complications did arise of having to deal with her and possible labour in their car when the woman knew she needed this 'injection'. why not just phone an ambulance?? what is the big deal, i just don't know who the woman was expecting to collect her? what if every woman in labour phoned the maternity ward saying they had no car!
Incognit0
06-Jun-11, 18:05
its just not here either.. when i was in raigmore.. after having a section.. they told me to take the bus home with a new born and after surgery.
Yet they won't let you take a baby home without proving you have a car seat. How come they will let you take the baby on the bus? - how unsafe :(
Better Out Than In
07-Jun-11, 11:20
Are not people just getting soft? My Mum just dropped me behind a hedge then went back to the fields to work.
speedo215
07-Jun-11, 21:31
yes but if you were having a heart attack would you not dial 999? i just get fed up with people 'blaming' other people the whole time instead of taking responsibility for themselves. fair enough the poor woman was in labour and did not have transport. if her contractions were coming every three and half minutes and she knew that she required specialist treatment [ie the 'injection'] surely she could have been responsible enough and phoned for an ambulance?
i just feel there is more to this. when the woman was having contractions every three and a half minutes who did she call? when 'whoever' said no transport was available, did the woman start phoning around friends when she was having contractions every 3.5 minutes? then endure a long journey to Inverness putting her friend in the awkward position if any complications did arise of having to deal with her and possible labour in their car when the woman knew she needed this 'injection'. why not just phone an ambulance?? what is the big deal, i just don't know who the woman was expecting to collect her? what if every woman in labour phoned the maternity ward saying they had no car!
Maybe she was at the hospital in skye and it was them who had to find her own way, maybe they could not provide an ambulance due to cutbacks and only one ambulance covering the area
Are not people just getting soft? My Mum just dropped me behind a hedge then went back to the fields to work.
Hope she comes back for you soon.
Are not people just getting soft? My Mum just dropped me behind a hedge then went back to the fields to work.
yes woman often did but now we have a nhs thing should have improved
Are not people just getting soft? My Mum just dropped me behind a hedge then went back to the fields to work.
Yes, and what was infant mortality? 50%? And maternal mortality? around 25%? I prefer the current "softness".
Spring Flower
07-Jun-11, 22:33
Maybe she was at the hospital in skye and it was them who had to find her own way, maybe they could not provide an ambulance due to cutbacks and only one ambulance covering the area
or maybe she wasn't................!! thats what i am saying, the full story wasn't given! the OP should have posted all the facts if they felt the need to come on here slating services. I notice the thread was originally started in January....any updated information on the complaint?
purplelady
07-Jun-11, 23:17
things have not improved they expect people to stay in kyle court a young girl was suppose to share with 3 men so she made other arrangements for her stay costing the family a fortune if services are being cut in rural area then they should be improving to support these cut in bigger hospital but the goverment seems to be cutting these services as well
they even get charged for kyle lodge i know this as my daugther got a bill for her partners stay there in march x
We claimed the money back for hubbys stay in Kyle court through the nhs claims system...but kyle court was set at the max the person could claim which is a pittance compared to other places he could stay...and if you cant get a room there I think the max per night is £20ish you can claim...and as for travel expenses...grrh..they dont even cover the fuel..
I remember the horrible journey down to Raigmore and back in the winter 2009(5hr journey by car av speed -30mph because of road conditions and freezing fog) and the threat of the trip by ambulance (the copter wasnt moving because of the weather) to Raigmore on the 1st of 2010 when I went into labour.
Just remember that you are all rather fortunate, perhaps very fortunate..... 'They don't even cover the Fuel'!!! Wow.....
Don't people have some responsibility to look after themselves. Don't you think this 'entitlement' thing has reached it's limit?
Spring Flower
08-Jun-11, 10:36
Just remember that you are all rather fortunate, perhaps very fortunate..... 'They don't even cover the Fuel'!!! Wow.....
Don't people have some responsibility to look after themselves. Don't you think this 'entitlement' thing has reached it's limit?
well said and totally agree!
Just a thought......
I rec'd a PM stating that perhaps I was being critical of the Scottish North, seeing that I live in Canada...This is not the case.
I have travelled quite a bit, and recently was 'over ome'...so I do know the difference....
I said that the people of the North of Scotland were/are very fortunate to have many things, particularly the NHS and Mobility vehs etc etc., that other Countries do not have. And I meant it! Try living in a Country where you have to wait months to see a specialist, and only if you have lots of cash you can get treatment sooner...Canada is not too too bad, but there are many problems particularly in the United States....
No one here pays us to go and see a specialist, even if it is 'out of Town'.
Yes I chose to travel but just keep in mind....Those in the UK have benefits that are unavailable elsewhere in the World...Some of these may dry up...all Countries go thru 'depressions/downturns, and we did approx 20 years ago......
So my point was.....Be thankful for what you have!
Well said sandyr1 No wonder our country is in such a state.
Well said Sandr1 - totally agree with you, folk should take some of the responsibility for looking after themselves
OH had to go to Glasgow at short notice for procedure - this procedure requires person to have escort on return trip but Consultant here in Western Isles has to sign travel permit, Consultant said no escort required. OH went on his own - the fare, evening before OH was travelling was when discovered I was not escorting was over £500 plus then had to pay hotel bills too - looked on it, they have written that no escort required.
Thought it was strange as neighbour just had same procedure done and escort provided to same hospital - a few months later procedure required to be redone on OH at different hospital - their letter stated escort had to be provided if going by public transport (which an aircraft is), no quibble about escort this time????
I raised anomally with MSP, Nicola Sturgeon who was Health, and the local NHS Board - things are supposed to be made more transparent!
I think 'transparency' is the key to having people accept decisions....
We have the same problems...Things are done 'in Camera', thus no one knows why.
And another great word is Consistency, and I guess Compassion......But Politicians and Senior Managers/bureauocrats are renowned for just the opposite.
Mind you, some Dr's have a bedside manner, others don't. A friend went to have a mole looked at, and the Dr. came straight out and said....You have Cancer!!! After the person got off the floor..................
oldmarine
10-Jun-11, 00:07
Are not people just getting soft? My Mum just dropped me behind a hedge then went back to the fields to work.
That's the way it was in 1925 when I was born.
And thats with easy labours None of my kids would be here if thats the way it is now!
And thats with the easy labours I had with the longest ar 1hr 45 mins...and the shortest at 20 mins.....(3 kids)
And gestational diabeties with the last kid.
And all being wee...
And Raigmore hosp and Wick ..comminication..ARRGGGHHH!
i think that the big thing that most people are upset about.. not the cost of having to go to Inverness.. but the actual trip down.
babies do not come when you want them to. in fact most come when you dont want them to.
I have had all three of mine in raigmore and the scbu is wonderful, the staff is mostly great..
its not that.. its the fact that we should have a staff here to be able to handle the problems that arise.
do people in the south have to travel a 100plus miles to give birth?
how many mums and babies will we have to loose before they decided that wick and caithness need proper services?
i think that the big thing that most people are upset about.. not the cost of having to go to Inverness.. but the actual trip down.
babies do not come when you want them to. in fact most come when you dont want them to.
I have had all three of mine in raigmore and the scbu is wonderful, the staff is mostly great..
its not that.. its the fact that we should have a staff here to be able to handle the problems that arise.
do people in the south have to travel a 100plus miles to give birth?
how many mums and babies will we have to loose before they decided that wick and caithness need proper services?
When I had my second baby (admittedly some 20 years ago) we lived in Kintyre. It was standard practice for mums, especially first time and potentially difficult births, to be delivered in Glasgow - over 100 miles away. I understand that this is still the case. The road to Glasgow was, and still is, much less comfortable than the A9. At that time many mums were required to be admitted to the hospital two weeks before their due date - this may have changed.
It's not realistic to have all the same specialist units in every part of the country. We live in a rural, some would say remote, location and we have many advantages from living here. The disadvantages come with the territory (!). As one of the earlier posters said, we should be grateful for what we have.
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