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just had a visit from the police as my 10 year old and some neighbours kids were playing football in the street. One of the neighbours phoned the police to complain as the ball had gone in his garden. I understand that it is annoying for him but I am pretty mad at the way he went about it. The other week he swore at the kids, some as young as 5 and the kids think that they saw him filming them with a camera.
This has been going on for years with other neighbours . The guy actually has a family and I have been told that his own son used to play football in the street too.
What annoys me the most is that there is no play area from hillhead to staxigoe for all the houses in between. There is nowhere for the kids to play. Most of them are too young to cross willowbank to go to hillhead. How does the planning department allow all the new houses to be built without a play area?
I cannot fault the police and understand they have a job to do but did it really need 2 cars and 3 policewomen for this trivial matter?
Ignore the police. I'd love to see the court case of the footballing kids.
Bingobabe
18-Jun-06, 20:59
Another annoying neighbour some people just like to complain it adds a bit of drama to there dull life.:confused
landmarker
18-Jun-06, 21:00
I cannot fault the police and understand they have a job to do but did it really need 2 cars and 3 policewomen for this trivial matter?
I'd guess not, must have been a quiet time for the boys and girls in blue.
In todays climate people are reluctant to confront kids, much less their parents. This is symptomatic of a breakdown of old values and the way society works. It's a shame it has spread so far north.
A ball came bouncing into in my garden the other day, the kid knocked and got permission to retrieve it. No problem. More than a couple of times and it would have been a pain though, to be honest.
I have heard that filming children who are being a pest can be interpreted as a breach of their 'human rights'. I find that utterly nonsensical. Why not have a quiet word with your neighbour, he may be a reasonable man who is struggling to come to terms with modern life and 21st. century attitudes.
Grumpy awld git, what's wrong with people? Majority of folk forget they had kids themselves, this really annoy's me.[mad]
I would report him for filming the kids.
The chap who reported the kids is already labelled a grumpy old man so he has nothing to loose by phoning the cops. Lets face it, what sort of life would he have if he got an unfair reputation for confronting kids without an impartial adult witness being present and the seedy allegations that would arise, you know what gossips they are like in caithness.
Personally, I would grin and bear the nuisance, the sound of kids playing makes a community feel as a whole. Sadly, it is the screeching of tyres and the dull thud of a kids cranium on chrome bumpers that kills a community.
What annoys me the most is that there is no play area from hillhead to staxigoe for all the houses in between. There is nowhere for the kids to play. Most of them are too young to cross willowbank to go to hillhead. How does the planning department allow all the new houses to be built without a play area?
I cannot fault the police and understand they have a job to do but did it really need 2 cars and 3 policewomen for this trivial matter?
I have a grump about this too. How can the council grant planning permission for so many houses without a play area? And more and more houses are being built without a green area between. It seems to be how many houses can be crammed into a space. We need green bits, trees, play areas, not more concrete jungles.
Yet in the next instance planning permission can be denied for the most trivial of reasons. don't get me on my soap box about this one!!!!!
And if they can't provide that - then at least put up a proper pedestrian crossing with lights so the kids can go to hillhead park, though this is not an option for the very young ones.
SandTiger
19-Jun-06, 00:00
just had a visit from the police as my 10 year old and some neighbours kids were playing football in the street. One of the neighbours phoned the police to complain as the ball had gone in his garden.
Good grief - Any arrests?
I cannot fault the police and understand they have a job to do but did it really need 2 cars and 3 policewomen for this trivial matter?
I take it the Armed Response Team wern't dispatched then?
:lol:
Whenever a new developer develops a piece of land there is supposed to be an area for a play area. If I recollect rightly, at the back of Kennedy Terrace there is supposed to be 88 houses going up, but they cannot build the 45th until there is a play area present. All new developments are supposed to have play areas, and there was an area allocated in the Proudfoot/Lindsay Drive area, but low and behold a house is now on the area designated for a play area. The developers make a big profit utilising this space for a house, but zero profit for a play area - wonder how they manged to get past the planners with this one!!!???
I did hear there was an area desinated as a play area,and that it was up to the residents to develop it as the council couldn't afford it. As nothing was done, some guy applied to buy it - and low and behold, they sold it to him! It should have been left alone. Even if there was no play equipment put on the site, at least the kids could kick a ball there. the same thing was going to happen to an area in Reiss, but the comunity got up in arms and the play area was left alone.
And as to the number of houses per area - well I haven't counted them, but there must be at least couple of hundred bungalows between Wick and Broadhaven alone, with more going up all the time.
What like is it at the Thurso end? I notice a lot of houses between Thurso and Scrabster. Do they have adequate play areas there?
porshiepoo
19-Jun-06, 09:21
Hang on, hang on, I'll probably get slaughtered for this but I do honestly see both sides of the story.
I have kids who were once that age and I know how it feels when theres nowhere for them to go other than the front of the house, but I also know how it feels for kids to kick balls into the garden, against a window or just against my fence (when I lived in Lincolnshire) and the damage it can do. The noise of a ball constantly hitting some hard object is so annoying too, but like you point out theres nowhere for the kids to go that is safe to get to.
The old guy may be a grumpy old git because he's fed up with the noise, any damage thats made etc etc and although it's no excuse he probably comes from an era where such nuiscances weren't tolerated - by anyone.
Has anyone (including the kids) tried approaching the guy and actually talk to him and find out what his problem is? This may placate him a little bit.
I'm not familiar with your area unfortunately but is there not a way that someone responsible could escort all the kids to a play area and arrange to pick them back up later? Thats what we used to do. Get all the parents involved so that it's not just left to one individual. Also it stops the stress of thinking that someones gonna come knocking at your door guns blazing.
The other thing we used to do was basically take them places ourselves. It's not the answer for everyone I know that but we'd go for long walks with them or take them to play areas in other places ourselves (take a friend or two along for the day and they're more than happy). At the time we were unemployed and had transport on and off but we still managed it and it probably did us as much good as the kids. Eventually we were lucky enough to be able to take them on holidays so they're now lucky enough to have seen much of the world at the ripe age of just 15, but taking them camping with a mate is just as much fun and pretty darn cheap.
I understand that our experiences and way around things isn't everyones cup of tea but it helps with the whole streets sanity believe me.
Other than that just ignore the guy, tell the kids not to provoke him and if he insists on intimidating them then do what he does and phone the police.
I do hope you manage to come to some sort of understanding with this for all your sakes, perhaps all the parents ought to petition the local council about the amenities for kids - don't fancy your chances of a decent response there though. [disgust]
is it not illegal to film or photograph children now under the child protection act? at school plays etc every parent has to give written permission, if oen doesn't no photographs are allowed - turn the tables on him!
I'm not familiar with your area unfortunately but is there not a way that someone responsible could escort all the kids to a play area and arrange to pick them back up later? Thats what we used to do. Get all the parents involved so that it's not just left to one individual. Also it stops the stress of thinking that someones gonna come knocking at your door guns blazing.
Don't agree with this idea porshiepoo. Leaving a bunch of 8-10 year olds in a play area away from their home does'nt sound safe to me. It might stop the idea of someone coming to your door gun's blazing, but i would seriously worry if my child was left unattended at a play park.
Children should be able to play on the street in front of their own homes,(under the watchful eye of their parents) not whisked off to the nearest play area just to keep some grumpy git happy, who once had children of his own doing exactly the same thing.Playing with a ball.
It's not the children who are to blame it's gurning oldies who have forgot they once had children themselves.:roll:
I'm not familiar with your area unfortunately but is there not a way that someone responsible could escort all the kids to a play area and arrange to pick them back up later?
I would have to disagree with you on this porshiepoo , the world has some nutters in it as we are all aware. I for one would not be happy with just dropping kids of at a park and leaving them and picking them up later. :eek:
The world just aint the same anymore . Grrrr
supernova
19-Jun-06, 10:39
I've seen this kind of problem in so many towns. Kids need places where they can play or hang out with their mates. Statistics show that in towns where there are plenty of play areas, skate parks and other amenities the crimes figures are lower. Boredom leads to mischief!:confused
lassieinfife
19-Jun-06, 12:37
Kids round here have plenty places to play but their main aim in life seems to be annoy older residents, wreck gardens, deface other peoples property with graffiti and destroy trees.
I had children so can see it from both sides, but surely a little parental supervision is not uncalled for....some parents treat their kids same way as their animals ... open door shove them out ........... go play somewhere else n give me peace. I'm not saying that is the case with all parents,but when my kids were small we didn't have a play park near us so I had to go with them,either that or they stayed in our garden.
porshiepoo
19-Jun-06, 13:49
Don't agree with this idea porshiepoo. Leaving a bunch of 8-10 year olds in a play area away from their home does'nt sound safe to me. It might stop the idea of someone coming to your door gun's blazing, but i would seriously worry if my child was left unattended at a play park.
Children should be able to play on the street in front of their own homes,(under the watchful eye of their parents) not whisked off to the nearest play area just to keep some grumpy git happy, who once had children of his own doing exactly the same thing.Playing with a ball.
It's not the children who are to blame it's gurning oldies who have forgot they once had children themselves.
Maybe I should have taken the ages of the kids into account before I said that! I guess I get a bit blase up here cos compared to England the amount of freedom I've felt it safe to give my kids is tiple fold - but then again my kids are no longer 8 - 10 years old, so point taken there. Sorry.
Yes they should be allowed to play safely in front of their home and without any abuse from any awkward neighbours. sadly the few kids that are either abusive or uncaring of other neighbours feelings tar all of the kids on the street with the same brush.
Lassieinfife made a good point about some parents not wanting to take the time to take kids places any more. Open the door, chuck em out and hope they come back safely.
Where my kids grew up was relatively quiet and safe but I never let them play out the front - ever! I didn't see the point in allowing them to annoy the neighbours (who had every right to be annoyed with noisy, ignorant kids) so as I said before I took them everywhere. God, there were times it annoyed me to hell but at least I knew my kids weren't one of those kids out the front that graffitted my front wall or broke everyones fences. I used to take the friends along so it was all the more exciting for them.
I remember one particular family who let their kids out when they were in nappies and could only just walk, they'd hardly ever be dressed properly and 9 times out of 10 they'd have no shoes on (yet their theft business seemed very lucrative from what I remember ;) )
So it was either us taking them out or the back garden, and I can honestly say, hand on heart, that they haven't suffered for it in anyway. Quite to the contrary they're very respectful of other peoples property.
I do understand that theres no facilities for kids nowadays though, gone are the days of the youth clubs or young kids disco's it would seem (miners welfare in my day, aaaah happy memories). Having said that though I don't ever remember hanging around on the street as a kid, I was too busy walking miles to find the nearest horse. Sadly times have changed and are no longer as safe as what we thought they were back then, perhaps the onus should be put on the local authorities to use some of our taxes to at least start the ball rolling. I bet there are loads of parents out there that would be more than willing to put some effort into things such as youth clubs etc if only someone would cough up some cash to get it all going.
Its certainly a tough subject, like I said I understand and sympathise with both sides. The kids obviously need a place to go and theres nothing available, however the grumpy old man is also probably a parent himself -maybe he'll have a good idea? [lol]
pulteney person
19-Jun-06, 13:59
I can understand both sides of the argument.
Kids love playing football but need a safe area.
People have balls kicked against their windows and doors day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, year in, year out - can anyone even begin to understand how that feels for the people who have to put up with it???
I think NOT.
One lot of kids grow up and move on and another lot take their place.
It is one of the most annoying things anyone could possibly have to endure in their own homes plus the broken windows and fences.
Of course the parents of the children who kick the footballs are quite happy because THEY ARE NOT KICKING IT AGAINST THEIR OWN WINDOWS AND WALLS.
There are 'No ball games' notices put up by the council for a reason. Perhaps people should start taking notice of them. :mad:
Kids round here have plenty places to play but their main aim in life seems to be annoy older residents, wreck gardens, deface other peoples property with graffiti and destroy trees.
I had children so can see it from both sides, but surely a little parental supervision is not uncalled for....some parents treat their kids same way as their animals ... open door shove them out ........... go play somewhere else n give me peace. I'm not saying that is the case with all parents,but when my kids were small we didn't have a play park near us so I had to go with them,either that or they stayed in our garden.
None of the kids around here have done that, they are a good bunch and they are mostly 11 and under. I also do take my kids out and do not open the door and let them run wild, but there are times like when I am making the tea that they are amusing themselves. They also play in their own gardens but of course this annoys the neighbour as he is next door. He even gets annoyed when they play chase and touch his fence.
I get where you are coming from as I have a neighbour like that if a kid so much as touches their wall of stands on their step then they shout at them, I have had kids leave my house with their parent and they have run over to the neighbours steps and stood on them only to be shouted at by him or her in front of shocked parents. I am not perfect I tell the kids off for going on my garage roof but that is basically because I don't want to scrape them off the floor if they fall through. Some people just want a reason to moan.
None of the kids around here have done that, they are a good bunch and they are mostly 11 and under. I also do take my kids out and do not open the door and let them run wild, but there are times like when I am making the tea that they are amusing themselves. They also play in their own gardens but of course this annoys the neighbour as he is next door. He even gets annoyed when they play chase and touch his fence.
I understand what you are saying LRM. Your neighbour must live a boring life if he's moaning about your children playing chase in the garden, it's your property and i would continue allowing your kids play in their garden and on the street. You should complain about him filming your children.
People have balls kicked against their windows and doors day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, year in, year out - can anyone even begin to understand how that feels for the people who have to put up with it???
I think NOT.
One lot of kids grow up and move on and another lot take their place.
It is one of the most annoying things anyone could possibly have to endure in their own homes plus the broken windows and fences.
Of course the parents of the children who kick the footballs are quite happy because THEY ARE NOT KICKING IT AGAINST THEIR OWN WINDOWS AND WALLS.
There are 'No ball games' notices put up by the council for a reason. Perhaps people should start taking notice of them. :mad:
Who said LRM's children smashed the old gurning git's windows:confused taking it a bit far there pulteney person. They are simply playing in the street at the front of their own home. For god sake the man is moaning at them playing chase in the garden. What have you got to say about him filming the children whilst they are playing.?
I can understand both sides of the argument.
Kids love playing football but need a safe area.
People have balls kicked against their windows and doors day in, day out, week in, week out, month in, month out, year in, year out - can anyone even begin to understand how that feels for the people who have to put up with it???
I think NOT.
One lot of kids grow up and move on and another lot take their place.
It is one of the most annoying things anyone could possibly have to endure in their own homes plus the broken windows and fences.
Of course the parents of the children who kick the footballs are quite happy because THEY ARE NOT KICKING IT AGAINST THEIR OWN WINDOWS AND WALLS.
There are 'No ball games' notices put up by the council for a reason. Perhaps people should start taking notice of them. :mad:
There have been no broken windows, fences or footballs banging on doors, the ball occassionally goes over the fence and lands in his garden
cuddlepop
19-Jun-06, 14:43
Peoples tolerance levels seem to change the older you get,or is it just me?:eek: When my kids were wee i seemed to be oblivious to there noise level but now with some new houses behind us the kids are driving me mad.These kids are doing nothing wrong there only playing.Its just annoying now that if i want some peace and quiet in my own backgarden i've to put my earphones on and drown them out with music!:confused
pulteney person
19-Jun-06, 18:08
I was making a general comment as to WHY people could get upset at balls constantly landing in their garden and about the damage done to property.
I was in NO way making comments about the grumpy neighbour. I don't know him.
I don't know both sides, so therefore I was just making a general comment about how CONSTANT annoyance can affect people's lives.
Lighten up guys - What do you say - we can all come and kick balls against your windows and doors all night.
By the way - The man SHOULD NOT be filming anyone's children. Why not report it to the police. I'm sure it would be illegal to film kids - is it??
And maybe the kids weren't doint all that much but surely I can pass my opinions the same as everyone else.
The next ball that comes my way will be cut in two :eek:
We once had a neighbour who constantly phoned the police about the kids making a noise. they were playing on a grassy area designated for them, nowhere near his house, however, because they were making a noise and keeping HIS child (who went to bed at seven) awake, the police came, and several times came to my door along with others, very apologetic, but saying they had to answer any complaint. Eventually all the neighbouts got so fed up they went to the council with their concerns. After that the police did not answer his calls. He then began ringing us individually to complain. we all just hung up on him. Eventually he just went out and shouted at the kids, (making enough noise to waken the dead let alone his sleeping child) and almost pulling his hair out when they ignored him.
You get one in every neighbourhood. there are just some people who shouldn't live in housing schemes.
pultneytooner
19-Jun-06, 19:10
is it not illegal to film or photograph children now under the child protection act? at school plays etc every parent has to give written permission, if oen doesn't no photographs are allowed - turn the tables on him! Maybe he doesn't film them, maybe the kids made it up as some do when it's an old guy or woman living on their own.
Let's light the torches, grab the pitchforks and march to his house and torture him some more by branding him some sort of pervert.:confused
Maybe he doesn't film them, maybe the kids made it up as some do when it's an old guy or woman living on their own.
Let's light the torches, grab the pitchforks and march to his house and torture him some more by branding him some sort of pervert.:confused
Maybe the 5 year olds also made up the story that he was swearing at them!
Come on pulteneytooner let's grab some sharp objects and march over there and burst all the footballs that these wee hooligans have. :roll:
pultneytooner
19-Jun-06, 19:27
Maybe the 5 year olds also made up the story that he was swearing at them!
Come on pulteneytooner let's grab some sharp objects and march over there and burst all the footballs that these wee hooligans have. :roll:
Kids today are more likely to swear at the adult rather than the other way round, wasn't it par for the course that the old person stuck a knife in the ball or was that victor meldrew?;)
I did say that the kids THOUGHT they seen a camera. I do not want to accuse anyone of being anything other than a grump!!!
What is wrong with filming kids who are playing football on the street and making a nuisance of themselves? Film evidence will be handy if the police ask for it especially if the kids deny any wrong doing.
Naefearjustbeer
19-Jun-06, 21:33
I used to have a neighbour that grumped at everything that went on in everyone elses garden. She used to call the police regularily about all sorts of things. She even used to complain about cars driving past her house. Eventually the police gave her a warning that she was wasting police time and would charge her if it happened again. She used to sit in her house peering out at me through her net curtains in my garden and the accuse me of spying on her. I didnt even know she was watching until she complained to me about it. I said how can I be spying on you when you are looking at me and I didnt even know you were there. I tried to humour her and be polite to her for quite a while before I finally lost my temper and told her exactly what I thought about her and her ways. I used to keep a motorbike in my shed and one day I rode it into the shed and came out too seeing her open her windows. She the acosted me and acused me of peeping into her bedroom and filling her house with petrol fumes. (she had only opened her windows after I had passed) I said thet it was not possible that I filled her house with fumes as her windows were shut. As a comparison I said why dont you complain when I cut the grass with my petrol mower as it is noisyer and will be running backwards and forwards passed the end of you house several times. To which she replyed Cutting grass is an acceptable garden activity. This is when I blew my top and gave her both barrels. From then on I ignored her every time I saw her. She still complained about stuff but I kept on walking and ignored her it made my life much easyer to pretend she wasnt there.
Naefearjustbeer
19-Jun-06, 21:39
What is wrong with filming kids who are playing football on the street and making a nuisance of themselves? Film evidence will be handy if the police ask for it especially if the kids deny any wrong doing.
If anyone was secretly filming my kids I would be the one going to the police. People who have nothing better to do than sit and grump about kids being kids should go and live on an island by themselves. If you don't like kids and the general noise and hustle bustle of town living move house to somewhere quieter. Its like someone who lives next to a pub complaining about the noise at night. Or cooking smells next to a takeaway or restauraunt. Well what the hell do you expect living next to one of these places. If you choose to live in an urban environment you have to accept the noise that comes with it
If anyone was secretly filming my kids I would be the one going to the police.
I read somewhere that the public were invited to send photographic evidence to the police in support of cases of anti-social behavior. Kids playing in the street is just another form of anti-social behavior.
If it is just the filming that you find objectionable then would you also object to someone filming a school play? Many parents object to other fellow parents doing this even if their own kid is in the play. How about filming a parade from the crowd where kids are dancing? As far as I know filming someone without their permission isn't against the law so long as it is not of an indecent nature, I could be wrong though.
I read somewhere that the public were invited to send photographic evidence to the police in support of cases of anti-social behavior. Kids playing in the street is just another form of anti-social behavior.
If it is just the filming that you find objectionable then would you also object to someone filming a school play? Many parents object to other fellow parents doing this even if their own kid is in the play. How about filming a parade from the crowd where kids are dancing? As far as I know filming someone without their permission isn't against the law so long as it is not of an indecent nature, I could be wrong though.
Not that I condone the Nanny state, but I believe if you don't post notices saying CCTV/crime prevention video is in use it is illegal to DIRECTLY videotape an individual or group of individuals without their consent unless you allow them access to the videos.
Obviously the school play doesn't count here as you are there to film YOUR relative and the fact someone elses family are there is not the reason for the film being taken.
I might be wrong but I think this is covered under the freedom of information act, and if so you can demand to see the neighbours videos as it holds "information" about your kids.
Naefearjustbeer
19-Jun-06, 22:42
I have no objection to filming where it is allowed Ie with my permission. If i had issues with a school play recording I would have the option to take it up with the school and or other parents. If kids are playing as they do in the street or garden and someone is secretly filming them for what ever reason innocent or not I would not be happy. If the kids are breaking the law then that is a different matter.
If the kids are breaking the law then that is a different matter.
Playing ball games on the street is illegal. But it is something that is rarely brought to court. Police are told to use their discretion on this matter. It makes for good community policing.
Not that I condone the Nanny state, but I believe if you don't post notices saying CCTV/crime prevention video is in use it is illegal to DIRECTLY videotape an individual or group of individuals without their consent unless you allow them access to the videos.
I think this applies to permanently fixed cameras, the case in question involves a guy with a camcorder filming kids in the street.
Naefearjustbeer
19-Jun-06, 22:57
I see so If I call to complain that some kids are kicking a ball around, The boys (girls) in blue will come running all lights blaring to have a quiet word about it. However If I called to say someone is selling drugs in my area or stolen something they may or may not pop round when its convienient after they have eaten the fish suppers that they appear to buy every evening. Its good to know that the real criminals get punished. If the police want to up the image of comunity policing they want to rid the area of the scum that break into other peoples property and steal stuff or the ones that are supplying drugs to the kids at highschool. All you do by having words with kids being kids is give them an anti police attitude before they even hit the teenage years, where they are more likely to be exposed to worse things than kicking a ball around after school.
Kids will only be kids once so let them enjoy it why people want to complain about it we were all kids ourself once but some people forget that .
Living in an area where there are children means that there will be noise from their play. As long as they arent kicking balls at fences or windows there is no problem. If there is accidental damage then the parents have to understand they must pay for it.
There is no reason for anyone to film children and indeed these days you have to sign a permission slip for a child in a school play to say you are happy for them to be filmes. If all parents dont give their consent then filming is not allowed.
I would suggest that a representative of the parents knocks on the guys door and asks politely what can be done to resolve the problems. They need to make it absolutely clear that swearing at the children will not be tolerated and the man should be told that if he has a problem with the children's behaviour he must speak to an adult and not approach the children direct. He should be re assured that where the behaviour of the children is not aceptable they will be told this but he should also be told that the children will be playing out and that will not change. If he calls the police again you can tell them this and they will see that he is being unreasonable.
I would suggest that anyone who objects to the noise of happy kids, should buy a house as far away from schemes as possible. tell your neighbour there is a lovely little cottage lying empty at the wick cemetary gates. At least the neighbours won't annoy him there! Mind you, the last man who lived there taped black crosses to every window - and he's since disappeared....so i may be wrong.....
Lynseymac
21-Jun-06, 17:53
If thats all the kids are doing then I think the man has possibly gone a bit over board! I can however sympathise in some sort of way - I to have had problems with noisy kids and I'm talking about having nearly 60 kids (that is no exaggeration) congregating outside my house at the one time, many with skateboards (even though there has been a skateboard park built for them) and some with footballs and it aint a very pleasant thing to have to suffer! The noise can be unbearable sometimes - footballs rattling off the house and everyone seems to shout/screech at each other and not talk! On some occassions I have had to leave the house its been so bad - why should I have to feel this way in my own home??!!
I am not one for involving the police but have sometimes felt the need to do so after politely asking them to keep the noise down, only to be given the height of abuse!!
My property and the surrounding area has also suffered some damage due to these youths and who is left to pick up the bills and not to mention all the rubbish left by them (even though there is a big yellow bin on the street for them to use)...certainly not the kids anyway.
I know that not all kids can be categorised in this way and I wouldnt want to label them all like this but I just want to express what ill-feeling something like this can cause.
The most likely problem being, as pointed out already, kids have nowhere to go and play - safely anyway.
Thankfully the problem around my area seems to have sorted itself out now much to my relief!!
All I want to say is, some people are quick to jump of the gun about issues like these and I'm sure if the problem was on their door step they would have a different opinion on the matter.
PS. I totally disagree with kids being filmed!
Well i think the area between Wick and broadhaven, in spite of all the houses with young families, is very quiet. I drove through the scheme tonight and as usual, i did not see one child, and i got lost a few times - came against a few dead ends before i found my way out. Think i would know where i was going by now!
Dinna kick yer ball oot there, laddie, the noise gie’s me a sare heid,
I know a’m deif, boot a still know yer air
Back when a wis a young cheil, we wis a different breed.
If wae cam wae any nonsense, wur backside wid bae sare
Wae minded wur Ps and Qs, or wae’d get a quick backhander
And onywise, all wae hed til kick wis a tin can, so joost ee dander
Awy fae here – get in yer owon gairden an’ whisper when ee play
Eh? Whit wis at? Whit wis at a heard ee say?
A howp yir no swiran at me, aal clout yer loog – What’s is?
Ee canna clout a bairn? Id wisna leek at in my day!
What is ee world cuman til? a man can get na peace!
Weel, if there’s noothin else a can do, a’ll hev till phone ee pleece
Katarina, how well you know me, that was great, my what a talent [lol]
I'm on a roll....what can I say?
Dave Taylor
21-Jun-06, 23:18
We had a power cut here last week. Within minutes, kids gathered in the street and started kicking a ball around. Very strange. Probably the computers, DVD players, TVs etc lost their grip:eek:. After 20 minutes, someone came out and said the power was back on, and the kids disappeared within seconds.
changilass
21-Jun-06, 23:24
We had a power cut here last week. Within minutes, kids gathered in the street and started kicking a ball around. Very strange. Probably the computers, DVD players, TVs etc lost their grip:eek:. After 20 minutes, someone came out and said the power was back on, and the kids disappeared within seconds.
I must remember and pull out a few fuses next time I want a bit of piece and quiet lol
It would be worth checking maybe with the planning office to see if a play area was in original plans surely with all those houses you would think there would have to be something for the children. I am sure I heard someone say that a play area was planned for the Old Wick area and had to be in place due to the number of houses planned.
You could also check at the Council offices the legal issues re housing developments and play areas if no joy there try citizens advice.
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