But it isn't an independent nation, is it, as yet so can't be a member until, or unless, it is.
But what you quoted doesn't mean that Scotland is precluded from EU membership, and anyway it wasn't what I was referring to, I was referring to JC Junker in a summary of the EU in 2014, the comment you quored were made 2 years before the indyref debate and by Barroso. Quite frankly the technicalities are in uncharted water, but what is clear is that Scotland qualifies for EU membership as an independent nation because it already is in the EU......so far
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But it isn't an independent nation, is it, as yet so can't be a member until, or unless, it is.
Greenland?
As a dependency of Denmark, Greenland was in the EU.
Upon gaining autonomous rule (in 1979), Greenland chose (by referendum in 1982) not to continue membership of the EU.
Scotland's position is different obviously, in that gaining independence would cause the break up of the member nation.
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Yes indy 2 is a completely different I 100% agree, everything is up in the air and although not an snp voter I commend Sturgeon on leadership and dealing with the situation. She came over very good on Sunday politics spelling out the different complexities involved in shaping a strategy, leaving BREXITERS in their beds.
Yes, and Denmark was the larger partner (all Greenland was worried about was control of fishing- one thing to settle and negotiate on, not many and still took considerable time) so it is the reverse situation and I don't see how it is applicable or comparable or how it sets some kind of precedent, to be honest.
Scotland staying in EU will be a lengthy complex process, and can surely only do so as a separate independent state, however we are into the unknown with seemingly no quick fixes at first glance but who knows ? at least Sturgeon is admitting the complexities involved in what has to be seen as a 3 d chess game
How? 85% of Scotland's trade is with the rest of the United Kingdom. You're basically saying that a 2% increase in 15% of our trade will compensate for a 2% loss in 85% of it (and that's being generous). Outside the EU, the UK is better placed to remove regulatory burdens and make deals with the whole world, not just its smallest continent. You are suggesting turning Scotland into Greece.
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
Erm, no - England would be the biggest loser as almost half of its trade is with the EU. Scotland would lose least as 85% of its trade is internal UK trade. Scotland would barely notice the difference, unless it ends up with the Brussels system when its main markets are not.
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
Indeed.
The vote was in/out where I believe a large majority wanted to stay in with reforms, but the EU held firm and the voters didn't like it.
What will it be - nobody knows - but I'm pretty sure German exporters will put a lot of pressure on Merkel to keep free trade open.
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; Nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
- Charles de Gaulle
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