Nor Scot

[Oddquine]

Thank you I am honored. but I think you are doing pirattelassie a great injustice oh yeah but she's one of your lothahahaha lolololo....oh yeah its only pro-unionist who have to do nice and polite isn't it bye then................missing you already

Piratelassie tries to get a debate going on the most important decision for our country in 305 years...as do most of us who post re the Independence issue and the possibilities of it...and I applaud her for that. Trolling is posting eternally often in a multitude of consecutive posts and saying nothing to help any discussion, but making comments intended to flame.....something at which you are an expert....and something which piratelassie does not do. You would fit well with the commentators on Daily Mail Independence articles, which appear to attract completely irrational Unionists.

After all, unless you are completely brain dead, you must know the possibilities offered by the UK Government for the future are no less pie in the sky, if that is how you want to consider the papers by the Scottish Government. The Tories for example are saying they will get us back into surplus by 2020......when they are still adding in 2013, annually, with monotonous regularity, to the debt they said they would have reduced by 2015, but won't. Reducing long-term debt is not reducing debt if you use a credit card to do that........as any ordinary fairly intelligent punter knows....heck...ask me!

Given the debt has not reduced, but has in fact increased...from about £780 billion when they took over to about a £trillion plus today ,...and in the process of failing to reduce the debt, the Coalition are trashing, and the Tories are promising to continue to trash, everybody on benefits, in the forlorn hope they will catch the relatively few chancers (who are much more intelligent than our Government and can work the crap systems they have set up), and don't really, tbh, cost us that much in the great scheme of things compared to th Big Business perks,...like tax avoidance schemes etc......but then the unemployed aren't going to be in a position to give MPs lucrative directorsihps once they get dunted from their seats.

I found it interesting that, given the gradual privatistion of the NHS, which is ongoing in England and may well be extended to Scotland, if many in Westminster have their way re "harmonising " of services in the UK (and I'm not sure if that will only apply only to the NHS....time and a No vote will tell) to find that..that 147 peers and 73 MPs who voted on NHS reconstruction have direct connections as shareholders, or have parents/parents-in-law,family who are shareholders, in most of the companies who now provide drugs, hospital services etc to the NHS under contract. Voting to ensure their income you think?

Add to the targeting of those on benefits..the targeting of everybody in Public Service...re salaries and pensions.....and job losses. ..which, of course adds to the numbers of the undeserving unemployed...and thus to welfare spending. You care to tell me which sector of society is going to be targeted from 2015 to 2020, bar those on benefits or working to try to make our Governments systems work for us within the limitations of what our MPs impose...because they know those on benefits and public employees are the easy options who won't trash the MPs' employment possibilities when they are not re-elected.

How much chance, on past performance over years, by any UK Government there has ever been that their pie in the sky projections will be accomplished....and what it will another five years in the UK under whichever Government, neither of which has appeared open to rolling-back the damaging policies of their predecessors since the reign of Thatcher?

But many of you who like the status quo, for whatever reason,don't want debate...you just want a chance to sneer and denigrate all your countrymen and neighbours.......and the Government they elected in Scotland in favour of support for a Government which we did not elect in Westminster...although you may have voted for it.

I don't expect pro-Unionists to be any more polite than I am.......but I do expect them to offer some cogent reasons for supporting the status quo if they are going to take part in a forum discussion.........otherwise, why bother to post at all if they have nothing to offer to sway the undecided voter in their direction but their own irrationality? We saw how that worked with the Labour negativity campaign...when the SNP got the majority the system had been set up to deny them.

Leaving Caithness at the end of the month....but you won't miss me....because I'll still be looking in........and from time to time posting....as I will on the Football forum to which I alluded. That's the beauty of the Internet...you can argue with people all over the world!

[equusdriving]

Piratelassie tries to get a debate going on the most important decision for our country in 305 years...as do most of us who post re the Independence issue and the possibilities of it...and I applaud her for that. Trolling is posting eternally often in a multitude of consecutive posts and saying nothing to help any discussion, but making comments intended to flame.....something at which you are an expert....and something which piratelassie does not do. You would fit well with the commentators on Daily Mail Independence articles, which appear to attract completely irrational Unionists.

After all, unless you are completely brain dead, you must know the possibilities offered by the UK Government for the future are no less pie in the sky, if that is how you want to consider the papers by the Scottish Government. The Tories for example are saying they will get us back into surplus by 2020......when they are still adding in 2013, annually, with monotonous regularity, to the debt they said they would have reduced by 2015, but won't. Reducing long-term debt is not reducing debt if you use a credit card to do that........as any ordinary fairly intelligent punter knows....heck...ask me!

Given the debt has not reduced, but has in fact increased...from about £780 billion when they took over to about a £trillion plus today ,...and in the process of failing to reduce the debt, the Coalition are trashing, and the Tories are promising to continue to trash, everybody on benefits, in the forlorn hope they will catch the relatively few chancers (who are much more intelligent than our Government and can work the crap systems they have set up), and don't really, tbh, cost us that much in the great scheme of things compared to th Big Business perks,...like tax avoidance schemes etc......but then the unemployed aren't going to be in a position to give MPs lucrative directorsihps once they get dunted from their seats.

I found it interesting that, given the gradual privatistion of the NHS, which is ongoing in England and may well be extended to Scotland, if many in Westminster have their way re "harmonising " of services in the UK (and I'm not sure if that will only apply only to the NHS....time and a No vote will tell) to find that..that 147 peers and 73 MPs who voted on NHS reconstruction have direct connections as shareholders, or have parents/parents-in-law,family who are shareholders, in most of the companies who now provide drugs, hospital services etc to the NHS under contract. Voting to ensure their income you think?

Add to the targeting of those on benefits..the targeting of everybody in Public Service...re salaries and pensions.....and job losses. ..which, of course adds to the numbers of the undeserving unemployed...and thus to welfare spending. You care to tell me which sector of society is going to be targeted from 2015 to 2020, bar those on benefits or working to try to make our Governments systems work for us within the limitations of what our MPs impose...because they know those on benefits and public employees are the easy options who won't trash the MPs' employment possibilities when they are not re-elected.

How much chance, on past performance over years, by any UK Government there has ever been that their pie in the sky projections will be accomplished....and what it will another five years in the UK under whichever Government, neither of which has appeared open to rolling-back the damaging policies of their predecessors since the reign of Thatcher?

But many of you who like the status quo, for whatever reason,don't want debate...you just want a chance to sneer and denigrate all your countrymen and neighbours.......and the Government they elected in Scotland in favour of support for a Government which we did not elect in Westminster...although you may have voted for it.

I don't expect pro-Unionists to be any more polite than I am.......but I do expect them to offer some cogent reasons for supporting the status quo if they are going to take part in a forum discussion.........otherwise, why bother to post at all if they have nothing to offer to sway the undecided voter in their direction but their own irrationality? We saw how that worked with the Labour negativity campaign...when the SNP got the majority the system had been set up to deny them.

Leaving Caithness at the end of the month....but you won't miss me....because I'll still be looking in........and from time to time posting....as I will on the Football forum to which I alluded. That's the beauty of the Internet...you can argue with people all over the world!

I must apologise, because although I wish I could be bothered to read through your long and drawn out post, I started to try, but after reading the initial lies and rubbish I lost what little interest I had and gave up

[Oddquine]

I must apologise, because although I wish I could be bothered to read through your long and drawn out post, I started to try, but after reading the initial lies and rubbish I lost what little interest I had and gave up

And that illustrates that you are a troll with the attention span of a gnat and the brain capacity of an amoeba........as many of us have always thought!

[golach]

And that illustrates that you are a troll with the attention span of a gnat and the brain capacity of an amoeba........as many of us have always thought!

In my opinion your the troll here

[ducati]

You get a really snippy page if you vote NO on the YES Scotland website

[secrets in symmetry]

You get a really snippy page if you vote NO on the YES Scotland website

I wouldn't say it was snippy. I would say it's a downright lie - which is exactly what I would expect from secessionists.

The whole website is full of even worse lies.

[ducati]

I wouldn't say it was snippy. I would say it's a downright lie - which is exactly what I would expect from secessionists.

The whole website is full of even worse lies.

They even registered me on a forum or facebook group or something without me asking. Presumably they do this to all visitors to boost their quoted support numbers? The email I got to confirm this was from someone with the most proposterous made up Scottish name I've ever seen; Friseal MacFhearghais

[equusdriving]

And that illustrates that you are a troll with the attention span of a gnat and the brain capacity of an amoeba........as many of us have always thought!

mmm and I can still see that Independence is a mistake, don't say a lot for the mentality of your lot does it

[orkneycadian]

Piratelassie tries to get a debate going on the most important decision for our country in 305 years...as do most of us who post re the Independence issue and the possibilities of it...and I applaud her for that. Trolling is posting eternally often in a multitude of consecutive posts and saying nothing to help any discussion, but making comments intended to flame.

Is that not the pattern of the OP? Start of a thread with some mal-informed comment, then refuse to come back to answer any of the points raised? Wait for a bit for the dust to settle, then lob another one in.

[secrets in symmetry]

Is that not the pattern of the OP? Start of a thread with some mal-informed comment, then refuse to come back to answer any of the points raised? Wait for a bit for the dust to settle, then lob another one in.

Indeed.

She's rather good at it, and at least her garbage is brief - two lines of childish trash are so much easier to ignore than several paragraphs of ill-formed lies and lunacy!