What is the point of Labour anymore?

[Shabbychic]

Anti semetism?

I'm far from being a Labour supporter these days, but all this Antisemitism nonsense is just a dirty smear campaign championed by the Tories........who have a great reputation for racism themselves, and always have had.

This election is turning into a really nasty business from all angles this time, one of the worst I've ever seen.

[j4bberw0ck]

Shabbychic, you don't sound like a person who watched Andrew Neil comprehensively gut Jeremy Corbyn in his interview last evening, on the subject of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party - and that's both the Parliamentary party and the organisation. All socialist administrations need a scapegoat to distract the hoi polloi's gaze from their governmental failings and the Jews are usually convenient. Look also at the people Corbyn associates with.

And please don't start about right-wing BBC bias. It'd be a first, were it to happen.

[Shabbychic]

Shabbychic, you don't sound like a person who watched Andrew Neil comprehensively gut Jeremy Corbyn in his interview last evening, on the subject of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party - and that's both the Parliamentary party and the organisation. All socialist administrations need a scapegoat to distract the hoi polloi's gaze from their governmental failings and the Jews are usually convenient. Look also at the people Corbyn associates with.

And please don't start about right-wing BBC bias. It'd be a first, were it to happen.

Actually I did watch it comprehensively, and obviously saw it differently from you. If you call shouting over someone constantly because he wants his point to be the only point, as Andrew Neil is famous for, as a gutting, then that's your prerogative. I call it bullying. What was he to apologise for anyway? He has apologised and sorted things out in the past apparently. To do so again on Neil's command is not what an interview should be about. I didn't watch the interview to see that, but to hear what his plans were if in government, especially regarding us. (he changes that about quite a bit, as he does with a lot of things.)

As for the Antisemitism in the Labour Party, I have no intentions of arguing their corner. What I will say is, much of it is regarding the present government policies in Israel, and how they deal with Palestine and other issues, which is not quite the same as hating Jews. Antisemitism is used far too loosely these days.

I'm sorry you don't see the BBC the way I do, but that's up to you.

[Corky Smeek]

In some respects there is a big difference between the BBC in London and BBC Scotland. The connections between the Labour party and BBC Scotland are far too numerous and too close for any of their output to be considered balanced and impartial. Consider the following:-

1. During Indyref 1 the Head of BBC Scotland News and Current Affairs was John Boothman long term partner of Susan Deacon, Labour MSP (at the time).
2. Also in 2014 BBC Scotland decided to give Kezia Dugdale, (Labour MSP at the time) her own politics-based radio 'phone-in show. The idea was dropped when, after some test shows (not broadcast), it was realised that her talents were not ideally suited to the format, i.e. she was hopeless at it.
3. The BBC appoint Sarah Smith, daughter of former Labour Party leader, John Smith as their Scotland Editor.
4. Catriona Renton, BBC Scotland News Reporter is a former Labour Party Councillor.
5. Kirsty Wark has, twice holidayed with Jack McConnell, former Labour Party First Minister, at her holiday home in Majorca.
6. Then there was the Christmas List. The Labour Party provided the BBC with a set of SNP-bad stories to cover the politically quiet period over the festive season. BBC Scotland dutifully ran these as though they were news stories and not party political press releases. News of this leaked and it became embarrassing for the BBC as it was possible to predict their "exclusives" before they were broadcast.

Now, each one of these, taken on their own means nothing. Add them together and a rather worrying pattern emerges.

[aqua]

Shabbychic, you don't sound like a person who watched Andrew Neil comprehensively gut Jeremy Corbyn in his interview last evening, on the subject of anti-Semitism in the Labour Party - and that's both the Parliamentary party and the organisation. All socialist administrations need a scapegoat to distract the hoi polloi's gaze from their governmental failings and the Jews are usually convenient. Look also at the people Corbyn associates with.

And please don't start about right-wing BBC bias. It'd be a first, were it to happen.

I watched Neil and Corbyn.

I can’t stand Corbyn either, but Neil’s constant interruptions and childish questioning were so annoying, and Corbyn’s responses were better than I expected, so I ended up more supportive of Corbyn than ever before!

[orkneycadian]

Can this really get any worse for the SNP?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...anti-semitism/

New SNP resignation over alleged anti-Semitism

Not an election candidate, but much worse, part of the Conduct Committee

Starting to make Jeremy Corbyn look quite angelic.

[orkneycadian]

So really, is there any hope at all for the SNP? Even the Conduct Committee cannot be trusted to exhibit good conduct. Rotten to the core.

[orkneycadian]

So really, is there any hope at all for the SNP? Even the Conduct Committee cannot be trusted to exhibit good conduct. Rotten to the core.

And now the electorate are realising that;

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ence-8cvg8jqfd

Poll reveals sharp fall in support for Scottish independence

56% No, 44% yes.

[Corky Smeek]

The last couple of days:-

The Lib Dems - dodgy to the core.

£334,000 in donations from pharmaceutical companies who market puberty blockers. Goes a long way to explain the party's stance on gender reassignment. https://twitter.com/JeanHatchet/stat...01925777346561


The Tories - heartless to the core

Conservative candidate, Sally Anne Heart says disabled people don't understand money so should be paid less. https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-...oney-11280594/. The nasty part of the Tory party is never far below the surface.