One Law For.......

[orkneycadian]

Less than 18 months ago, Iain Stewart pledged World Class Health and Social Care for the NHS Highland area.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...vice-in-north/

New NHS Highland chief Iain Stewart pledges 'world-class' health service in north

Can I ask the good folkies of Caithness, if they feel they now have a world class health service? Feel free to base your answer on before or during coronavirus, though with the P&J reporting his move from Highland to Orkney on the 24th of January, he must have reckoned to have completed his delivery before he left. I guess that's why our SNP led government stand by him in the current scandal over all his trips up and down the A9. He must be a cracking chief if he has delivered World Class healthcare in Caithness and the rest of the region, in a mere 12 months.

So Caithness folks, do tell us about your world class healthcare. Is it world class? Is it 3rd world class?

[Corky Smeek]

Less than 18 months ago, Iain Stewart pledged World Class Health and Social Care for the NHS Highland area.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...vice-in-north/

New NHS Highland chief Iain Stewart pledges 'world-class' health service in north


Can I ask the good folkies of Caithness, if they feel they now have a world class health service? Feel free to base your answer on before or during coronavirus, though with the P&J reporting his move from Highland to Orkney on the 24th of January, he must have reckoned to have completed his delivery before he left. I guess that's why our SNP led government stand by him in the current scandal over all his trips up and down the A9. He must be a cracking chief if he has delivered World Class healthcare in Caithness and the rest of the region, in a mere 12 months.

So Caithness folks, do tell us about your world class healthcare. Is it world class? Is it 3rd world class?

Translation:- "I think the NHS in Scotland is s**t and I'm going to rejoice in every perceived failure, however small or imagined, and tell everyone about it. In particular, I am going to tell the NHS staff who have been working their ars*s off for the last few months trying to keep us all safe and healthy that I think there efforts are and were third class.".

You probably won't read this but I sincerely hope that someone else tells you what shameful human being you are and requests that you retract your last post.

[Oddquine]

Wish you wouldn't quote orkneycadian, Corky. He/she is on my ignore list for a reason...and I suspect the five consecutive posts, if in their usual tone, illustrates why.

Mightn't be a world-class service...but I guess that depends on what part of the world you live in, but sure as Hades it is a darn good service considering we get only pocket money to fund pretty much everything in Scotland. After all...it is a lot better than the English equivalent, and to fund that, Westminster not only has the income from England, Scotland, Wales and NI, less the pocket money of the devolved governments to spend on England/UK stuff,Westminster also has the UK magic money tree.

Can't say I ever had a problem with the health service in Caithness when I lived there, but maybe, in the run up to Brexit, the "foreign" medical staff who were at Caithness General when I was a patient, decided to escape the nastiness of the Brexiteers....and who could blame them. It is hardly the fault of either the SG or the SNHS that, unlike UK bung-money, trained medical staff doesn't grow on trees. Whatever happened to all those unemployed medical staff who couldn't get jobs because all those pesky "foreigners" are coming here and taking them.

Re iain Stewart...if he had done a Cummings, I'd be calling him out on it as well, but he was travelling at weekends, on his own, from his "digs" in Orkney to his family home in the Black Isle. That isn't the same as Cummings who left his family home to travel twice that distance in a car with coronavirus, his wife and child to visit his elderly parents "for childcare" (and his mother's birthday?) Funny that when government employees in UK countries, for example,Calderwood or Ferguson , becomes the story...they fall on their swords...but when it comes to Cummings, there is a phalanx of ministers protecting him. Makes one wonder what secrets he could reveal if made to go.

[Corky Smeek]

Wish you wouldn't quote orkneycadian, Corky. He/she is on my ignore list for a reason...and I suspect the five consecutive posts, if in their usual tone, illustrates why.

I completely understand. He scunners me too and I hate reading his particular brand of bile. I only did it to preserve a record of his more outrageous posts (mind you that is most of them) so that even if he deleted them there would still be a record of what a despicable collection of views he holds.

I have no desire to inflict him upon anyone who does not wish to be confronted with his views. My apologies. I will be more circumspect in future.

[Gronnuck]

orkneycadian Enjoys nothing more than picking holes in everything Scottish. I’ve never seen anything positive posted by him in all the time I’ve been a member. Such is his negativity it’s a wonder he doesn’t take himself off to live somewhere more convivial…, and positive.

[orkneycadian]

I’ve never seen anything positive posted by him in all the time I’ve been a member.

And another one makes that same mistake and even goes as far as putting it in writing!

Oh well Gronnuck, to prove you aren't always right in your character assessments, especially for you......

http://forum.caithness.org/showthrea...81#post1188381

[Alrock]

Nee Naw Nee Naw Nee Naw....

Officer: Excuse me sir you seemed to be driving rather eratically there.
Driver: Sorry Officer, my eyesight is a bit iffy at the moment, just taking a wee test drive on the public road as I'm not to sure if I'm fit enough to drive.
Officer: That's fine sir just carry on.

As if...

More likely...
Officer: I'm going to have to book you, step out of the car, you are in no fit state to drive.

[orkneycadian]

A few years ago, my 79 year old Dad thought he was ready and safe to drive again after his hip operation. I went with him. I don't know if I fairly agreed with his self assessment, but he kept on driving anyway - I just didn't go back in the car with him again!

[Fulmar]

So it did not worry you then that your Dad might kill someone while behind the wheel? My late Dad became unfit to drive due to onset of mild dementia. He nearly killed me a couple of times. He did not realise that his driving was erratic and thought he was fine in all respects but we knew that he was not so we told his GP (admittedly, behind his back) as I could not have lived with myself if he had harmed someone. He had to undergo a driving test which he failed and therefore lost his licence and he was extremely upset about it for a while but he soon adapted and no longer even missed the car.

[Gronnuck]

In case nobody has noticed, the main difference between Ian Stewart and Dominic Cummings is that Stewart is in taking on an executive role with NHS Orkney where the current population is less than 23,000. He is healthy and commutes to his home weekly, a round trip of approx. 200 miles. Cummings on the other hand is one of the principal architects of the UK’s COVID-19 management strategy for a population of 67m people. He chose to swanny off to Durham, a round trip of some 520 miles, allegedly twice, while he and his wife were suffering the symptoms of COVID-19. Big difference.

[orkneycadian]

In case nobody has noticed, the main difference between Ian Stewart and Dominic Cummings is that Stewart is in taking on an executive role with NHS Orkney where the current population is less than 23,000. He is healthy and commutes to his home weekly, a round trip of approx. 200 miles. Cummings on the other hand is one of the principal architects of the UK’s COVID-19 management strategy for a population of 67m people. He chose to swanny off to Durham, a round trip of some 520 miles, allegedly twice, while he and his wife were suffering the symptoms of COVID-19. Big difference.

And in case you haven't noticed Gronnuck, London and Durham are on the same land mass. Orkney and the Black Isle are separated by the Pentland Firth (well, and the Moray Firth if you are being accurate....). Whilst Iain Stewart may feel healthy, as we know, 85% of people with coronavirus are asymptomatic. He can feel, and look as healthy as he likes - As he brings it into Orkney......

And the other key difference is that Iain Stewart can completely work from home. He is not a surgeon, a nurse, a cook or anything front line that needs his presence on the wards. He works in an office, a board room possibly, in the new Balfour Hospital, with some of Orkney's best IT connections to the outside world. Bear in mind the hospital here only opened last year and has state of the art IT and videoconferencing systems, designed to allow patients in Orkney to consult doctors in Aberdeen or further afield. Now, if he cannot do his office job from home, with the best quality IT equipment at hand, then no one can. So he has effectively signaled that lockdown is over or irrelevant. His arrogance in the interview in last weeks Orcadian newspaper is breathtaking, and the inability of the Chair of NHS Orkney to cover up for him, or even give a reasoned explanation on Radio Orkney last week was similarly cringeworthy.

And whilst Mr Cummings stayed in England, not coming anywhere near Scotland, Caithness or Orkney, the ones who seem the most het up about it are in Scotland. But here, Mr Stewart has passed amongst us. He has passed through Caithness and Orkney. So his actions are far more relevant to us here.

Oh, and just a final bit of help with arithmetic. You suggest that Dominic Cummings has made a 520 mile round trip, allegedly twice. Cooped up in a car. Thats 1,040 miles. Iain Stewart has been making a round trip of 200 miles, 8 or 9 times - So 1600 or 1800 miles. Some cooped up in a car, but part on a ferry. You cannot stay in your car on the Pentland Firth crossings, you have to get out of your car and go into the passenger lounge. Much more risk of contamination there than simply staying in a car and driving the trip. And yes, both will need to stop for fuel somewhere on those lengths of journeys, so that applies to them both. I expect though that Iain Stewart will have had to fill his car up more times that Dominic did, creating additional risk.

But yet, the Scottish Government stand by Mr Stewart, and attempt to bring down Mr Cummings. I think that is why this thread is titled "One law for........"

[aqua]

And in case you haven't noticed Gronnuck, London and Durham are on the same land mass. Orkney and the Black Isle are separated by the Pentland Firth (well, and the Moray Firth if you are being accurate....). Whilst Iain Stewart may feel healthy, as we know, 85% of people with coronavirus are asymptomatic. He can feel, and look as healthy as he likes - As he brings it into Orkney......

And the other key difference is that Iain Stewart can completely work from home. He is not a surgeon, a nurse, a cook or anything front line that needs his presence on the wards. He works in an office, a board room possibly, in the new Balfour Hospital, with some of Orkney's best IT connections to the outside world. Bear in mind the hospital here only opened last year and has state of the art IT and videoconferencing systems, designed to allow patients in Orkney to consult doctors in Aberdeen or further afield. Now, if he cannot do his office job from home, with the best quality IT equipment at hand, then no one can. So he has effectively signaled that lockdown is over or irrelevant. His arrogance in the interview in last weeks Orcadian newspaper is breathtaking, and the inability of the Chair of NHS Orkney to cover up for him, or even give a reasoned explanation on Radio Orkney last week was similarly cringeworthy.

And whilst Mr Cummings stayed in England, not coming anywhere near Scotland, Caithness or Orkney, the ones who seem the most het up about it are in Scotland. But here, Mr Stewart has passed amongst us. He has passed through Caithness and Orkney. So his actions are far more relevant to us here.

Oh, and just a final bit of help with arithmetic. You suggest that Dominic Cummings has made a 520 mile round trip, allegedly twice. Cooped up in a car. Thats 1,040 miles. Iain Stewart has been making a round trip of 200 miles, 8 or 9 times - So 1600 or 1800 miles. Some cooped up in a car, but part on a ferry. You cannot stay in your car on the Pentland Firth crossings, you have to get out of your car and go into the passenger lounge. Much more risk of contamination there than simply staying in a car and driving the trip. And yes, both will need to stop for fuel somewhere on those lengths of journeys, so that applies to them both. I expect though that Iain Stewart will have had to fill his car up more times that Dominic did, creating additional risk.

But yet, the Scottish Government stand by Mr Stewart, and attempt to bring down Mr Cummings. I think that is why this thread is titled "One law for........"

For once, I agree with everything you say.

I think Nicola is being more than a tad inconsistent.

[Oddquine]

For once, I agree with everything you say.

I think Nicola is being more than a tad inconsistent.

The difference is that a) the coronivirus "rules" say stay at home....and Cummings left his home to go on a road-trip, while Stewart left his "digs" to go to his home..(I can imagine the screams of "waste of money" if the Orkney Health Board had to install in Stewart's home, for the length of lockdown, the state of the art IT equipment available to him at Balfour Hospital)
and b) Cummings is employed in helping to write the rules for the rest of us to follow, because he is, as was Calderwood, an advisor to the PM (some would even say Cummings was the Rod Hull to the PM's Emu), while Stewart is simply an employee of Orkney Health Board, and has nothing more to do with writing the rules for others to follow than you or I have. So I see no inconsistency when it is apples and potatoes which are being compared.

[aqua]

I disagree. I actually think Stewart is worse because he’s travelling in both directions every week. It’s a matter of principle and it’s a matter of practice. He’s more likely to transmit the virus due to his weekly jaunts. Why doesn’t he live in Orkney?

You must be pleased that your local representative has made a name for himself by resigning and therefore doing the right thing. You should be proud.

[aqua]

Less than 18 months ago, Iain Stewart pledged World Class Health and Social Care for the NHS Highland area.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...vice-in-north/

New NHS Highland chief Iain Stewart pledges 'world-class' health service in north


Can I ask the good folkies of Caithness, if they feel they now have a world class health service? Feel free to base your answer on before or during coronavirus, though with the P&J reporting his move from Highland to Orkney on the 24th of January, he must have reckoned to have completed his delivery before he left. I guess that's why our SNP led government stand by him in the current scandal over all his trips up and down the A9. He must be a cracking chief if he has delivered World Class healthcare in Caithness and the rest of the region, in a mere 12 months.

So Caithness folks, do tell us about your world class healthcare. Is it world class? Is it 3rd world class?

Translation:- "I think the NHS in Scotland is s**t and I'm going to rejoice in every perceived failure, however small or imagined, and tell everyone about it. In particular, I am going to tell the NHS staff who have been working their ars*s off for the last few months trying to keep us all safe and healthy that I think there efforts are and were third class.".

You probably won't read this but I sincerely hope that someone else tells you what shameful human being you are and requests that you retract your last post.

Reposted for the benefit of Orkneycadian and anyone else who has one or both on their ignore lists.

[Corky Smeek]

Scots think Nicola Sturgeon is doing a far better job of managing the pandemic than Boris Johnson. It must be true. It's on the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52795997

[aqua]

Scots think Nicola Sturgeon is doing a far better job of managing the pandemic than Boris Johnson. It must be true. It's on the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52795997

The poll was conducted between 14 and 20 May. Boris’s desperation to keep Dom in place will have dented his ratings even further, and quite rightly so.

I think Nicola has done quite well so far. I would trust her more than Boris on most issues.

The new test and protect scheme sounds promising. I hope it works well.

[orkneycadian]

Reposted for the benefit of Orkneycadian and anyone else who has one or both on their ignore lists.

Thanks for the thought Aqua, but I have developed an instinctive reaction to rotate the scroll wheel on the mouse as soon as I see the string "Cork....." in a quote. This has possibly caused me to miss out on some interesting postings regarding wine, or an Irish city, but that's a risk I am willing to take, as long as it shields me from the inane separatist drivel that follows on should the string continue with "y Smeek"

[The Horseman]

Interesting.....how this can occur anywhere!
In Eastern Canada one Community was nearly completely Covid Free, with No Deaths!
They started to relax, when within a few days numerous new cases were detected. It seems there are over 100 hundred people positive.
The investigation discovered that a local Doctor went out of the Community into a nearby Province, and didn't Self Isolate when he returned, thus causing the Outbreak.
There is now a Criminal Investigation ongoing.......
Here we Could have a charge of Criminal Negligence, defined by...The Wanton and utter disregard for the lives and safety of other people!
What happens if someone dies!
FYI.....

[orkneycadian]

Bit of a late night getting caught up reading the Orcadian newspaper. As might expected, Mr Stewart was the source of many column inches. Well, lets be more realistic, pages. All of the front page, a whole page of the letters page, overspill from the front page and letters page. Its fair to say he has attracted a huge amount of criticism, with some comparison to Dominic Cummings. Though much of the comparison echoes this thread, in that complainants see that Mr Stewart has done worse than Mr Cummings. And lots of disbelief on the amount of support for Mr Stewart's actions coming from NHS Orkney and the Scottish Government.

I think that like Boris Johnson, Nicola Sturgeon is hoping that today's lockdown easing gives the news hounds something else to think about, and the Scottish Government, along with Mr Stewart can hope that it fades into the background.

But yes, as the thread title says - There is definately one law for some and another law for others.