EU law and constitution expert Professor Dougan says it as it is.

[tonkatojo]

The only place there is any opposition to TTIP is from Europe. The UK is throwing its arms open to welcome it whereas France, Germany and half of the committees have opposed it. Our WM government would take it tomorrow as it is. Despite the Scottish government asking for opt outs for public services WM have refused to consider them. This leaves us reliant on our EU partners to stand against it.

Also, if TTIP is what's on the table just now, what do you think will be in the trade agreements we draw up with the US outwith the EU. They will demand a high price for access to their markets, we will have no backup and I am inclined to believe that TTIP will look like a benevolent gift in comparison.

At the very least we will be in a position to take it or leave not have it imposed by a majority of at most 27-1.

[Rheghead]

At the very least we will be in a position to take it or leave not have it imposed by a majority of at most 27-1.

Never has the UK been out-voted 27-1.

Official EU voting records* show that the British government has voted ‘No’ to laws passed at EU level on 56 occasions, abstained 70 times, and voted ‘Yes’ 2,466 times since 1999, according to UK in a Changing Europe Fellows Sara Hagemann and Simon Hix.

In other words, UK ministers were on the “winning side” 95% of the time, abstained 3% of the time, and were on the losing side 2%.

FULLFACT

[tonkatojo]

Never has the UK been out-voted 27-1.

Official EU voting records* show that the British government has voted ‘No’ to laws passed at EU level on 56 occasions, abstained 70 times, and voted ‘Yes’ 2,466 times since 1999, according to UK in a Changing Europe Fellows Sara Hagemann and Simon Hix.

In other words, UK ministers were on the “winning side” 95% of the time, abstained 3% of the time, and were on the losing side 2%.


FULLFACT

2% to many for me.

[Rheghead]

2% to many for me.

What disturbs me is that you genuinely believed that the UK mostly got out-voted and by 27-1. Do you think the news media in this country has failed you either by neglect of the facts or fabrication?

And if that is the case does it explain to some extent why despite all the consensus from leading public figures that brexit is generally at best bad at worst disastrous for the UK, the UK public often believe the opposite?

[tonkatojo]

What disturbs me is that you genuinely believed that the UK mostly got out-voted and by 27-1. Do you think the news media in this country has failed you either by neglect of the facts or fabrication?

And if that is the case does it explain to some extent why despite all the consensus from leading public figures that brexit is generally at best bad at worst disastrous for the UK, the UK public often believe the opposite?

What I really want out of it is for UK democracy to be restored back to pre 1975 status where we governed by election and when not happy elected another government, not the way we are at present within the EU. It really is that simple.