Is Science The New Religion? Is it Making us Paranoid?

[Rheghead]

We can sort of sense the power of God, through natural acts that we can't explain (miracles) and through the harmony that exists throughout the universe; we can harness this power through meditation and prayer, but with our piddly little minds we can't hope to understand the true nature of that which we call God. IMHO of course!

I don't sense the power of God, has He forsaken me?

I thought God loved ALL his children?

[rockchick]

I don't sense the power of God, has He forsaken me?

I thought God loved ALL his children?

Of course She does, just that she loves some more than others ;-)

[Rheghead]

Of course She does, just that she loves some more than others ;-)

Then God is not fair and equal to all His children? He made me into a non-believer, why would he make it impossible for me to enter his Kingdom of Heaven?

[Saveman]

Then God is not fair and equal to all His children? He made me into a non-believer, why would he make it impossible for me to enter his Kingdom of Heaven?

He gave us free will, a choice.
He's not interested in forcing you to believe in him.
He's given you all the evidence you need to make a decision. Rom 1:20
An amazing gift. What will you choose?

[Rheghead]

What will you choose?

I will use my freewill to believe in a sentient God when I see good evidence for it. But I also have my own view on God, it is another name for Energy. It neither demands worship or judges, then again if Energy is God then the arguement about Religion v Science is just a semantic one, except that Religion has thrown in the sentience to confuse matters.

[rockchick]

Then God is not fair and equal to all His children? He made me into a non-believer, why would he make it impossible for me to enter his Kingdom of Heaven?

Well, if you're a non-believer, then it follows that you don't believe in Heaven, so why does it matter whether or not you get into something that (according to you) doesn't exist?

I personally don't believe in the Christian God, so I can't answer your question for you. I do believe that there is a force in the universe that we don't understand, but can sense, and we choose to call it God. I don't know if this makes me a heretic, or dooms me to eternal damnation, but there it is.

[Rheghead]

Well, if you're a non-believer, then it follows that you don't believe in Heaven, so why does it matter whether or not you get into something that (according to you) doesn't exist?

I can't recall saying that Heaven doesn't exist (though admittedly I think it), but I would say it does if I see good evidence for it.

[rockchick]

I can't recall saying that Heaven doesn't exist (though admittedly I think it), but I would say it does if I see good evidence for it.

My apologies...I assumed that as a self-admitted "non-believer" that meant the entire doctrine, not just the Creator.

Course, I picked up on your true sentiments tho!

[mostlyharmless]

This is great stuff like a chinese whisper that keeps on going...

I think each person would be judged on his understanding of the truth that would only be fair and make each individual responsible for his own actions .

'Many mansions I have if it were not so I would not have said so.'

I think we'll be pleased with wherever we go as long as we live up to the principles we know to be true. Of course truth is not always clear .

But truth will set us "free" as the biblical phrase goes and I believe scientists and religion[in its purest form] will agree with that.

"Free" from any pause on the route to pure intelligence and joy and unity.

Yuk thats sounds trite oh well....

[Rheghead]

But truth will set us "free" as the biblical phrase goes and I believe scientists and religion[in its purest form] will agree with that.

Theologians and Science deal in different definitions of 'Truth'.

Science deals in the Truth that can be disproved as a lie. Theologians deal in the definition of Truth in the way that an Architect would walk into a Church(an analogy of Faith) and see that the walls are perpendicular and the beams are horizontal, they are True and strong, so the Church or one's Faith has Truth to withstand life's challenges to Faith.

[rockchick]

Theologians and Science deal in different definitions of 'Truth'.

Science deals in the Truth that can be disproved as a lie. Theologians deal in the definition of Truth in the way that an Architect would walk into a Church(an analogy of Faith) and see that the walls are perpendicular and the beams are horizontal, they are True and strong, so the Church or one's Faith has Truth to withstand life's challenges to Faith.

One's walls may be plumb and one's beams may be horizontal, but if your foundations are built upon sand, then "sure as God made little green apples" your house will fall.

[mostlyharmless]

Theologians and Science deal in different definitions of 'Truth'.

Science deals in the Truth that can be disproved as a lie. Theologians deal in the definition of Truth in the way that an Architect would walk into a Church(an analogy of Faith) and see that the walls are perpendicular and the beams are horizontal, they are True and strong, so the Church or one's Faith has Truth to withstand life's challenges to Faith.

Whose talking about theology mans understanding of god or the universe is minuscule[and small] truth is eternal and never changes within the boundaries that it is formed within.

[porshiepoo]

Then God is not fair and equal to all His children? He made me into a non-believer, why would he make it impossible for me to enter his Kingdom of Heaven?

God doesn't distinguish between black, white, deaf, blind, dumb , intelligent, believers or non believers, only man does that.
It's not impossible for you to enter heaven Rheghead, of course you will, it's only our thoughts on this side of life that makes us think we cannot enter heaven because we haven't lived up to some standard.

God has no control over our actions in this life, why would he/she want to have? Thats not what being here is all about. We're here to learn in order to advance spiritually on the othere side. We want to experience everything which is why we write horiffic actions into our lives as well as nice ones, in order to ascend spiritually we need to experience it all, good as well as bad.
God doesn't sit back and watch while the atrocities happen in this life, he has no control over it, only we do.

If you're a non believer Rheghead that doesn't mean you won't go to 'heaven'. When it's your time to pass over you'll recognise home immediately and be glad to be going back.

[angela5]

Then God is not fair and equal to all His children? He made me into a non-believer, why would he make it impossible for me to enter his Kingdom of Heaven?

God is not fair and equal, he also made me into a non-believer.