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    Also you say some young folk wouldn't give their time or their money. Well a lot do. The ones who do it for the right reasons don't go around shouting it from the rooftops and profiting from it themselves. And it's not your money, you are using the charity to sell your cds therefore it is more their money than yours.
    Very generous of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Also you say some young folk wouldn't give their time or their money. Well a lot do. The ones who do it for the right reasons don't go around shouting it from the rooftops and profiting from it themselves. And it's not your money, you are using the charity to sell your cds therefore it is more their money than yours.
    Very generous of you.

    Couldn't agree more tbh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    I think the fact you can't even take the time to get the correct spelling of Haiti and are only going to donate if you sell cds which you keep half the money from shows you really are not doing it for them. It would be better if you maybe took a donation on the door where the full money went to Haiti and didn't force people to buy the cds. Maybe if they like what they hear they will choose to anyway
    So people shouldn't try to help if their spelling's poor, and shouldn't give any money to the appeal in case it gets misread as trying to profit?? They're only youngsters doing their best you dope!
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    Why don't you just donate all the door proceeds to the Haiti appeal and if you sell CD's then keep the CD money for yourself to cover costs of CD production etc.

    Charge like £3 on the door and donate it all to charity seems like the best plan for everyone.
    Then you can't be accused of using your name and CD to profit from the Haiti appeal.
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    Logan , why should they change their plan just because the fools on here have a problem? I'd like to hear exactly what Blast, Moronity and Partgimp have been contributing, that gives them any right to point the finger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    Logan , why should they change their plan just because the fools on here have a problem? I'd like to hear exactly what Blast, Moronity and Partgimp have been contributing, that gives them any right to point the finger...
    They should change their plans so they are not gaining financially directly from the charity. I agree it is a good thing to do - if done for the correct reasons, This is blatantly an attempt to sell cds and not much more. It doesn't matter one bit what anyone else has or hasn't contributed.
    Also name calling is very clever and helps your point greatly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    Logan , why should they change their plan just because the fools on here have a problem? I'd like to hear exactly what Blast, Moronity and Partgimp have been contributing, that gives them any right to point the finger...
    PartGimp, Gee, that's mature of you.

    It's not about anyone having a problem as such. It just comes across as them trying to sell and promote their CD's first then the charity comes second.

    I ain't having a go, I just think that donating all the door money to the Haiti appeal and then keeping the money they make from CD sales is the best way to go, this way it really seems like it's for charity.
    They said the needed to sell 30 CD's for it to happen, as Moncur said previously, what happens if the don't sell that many?

    Donating the door money and keeping CD money seems like a win-win situation IMO.
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    Explain to me how Simon Cowell's Haiti single works then? And the old Band Aid xmas single?
    These kids are offering a share to the charity. Precisely what are YOU doing (other than munting about other people)?
    I thought PartGimp was quite good though...
    (that wasn't responding to Logan by the way)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    Explain to me how Simon Cowell's Haiti single works then? And the old Band Aid xmas single?
    These kids are offering a share to the charity. Precisely what are YOU doing (other than munting about other people)?
    I thought PartGimp was quite good though...
    We had music on in Newmarket Bar on the last weekend of January, the Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and donated ALL proceeds to charity. Even the bands donated their fees to it. £821.41 was raised.

    ALL the proceeds from the Band Aid and Cowell's Single goes to charity.

    I just honestly believe that donating ALL the door takings to charity and keeping the CD money is the best way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loganbiffy View Post
    We had music on in Newmarket Bar on the last weekend of January, the Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and donated ALL proceeds to charity. Even the bands donated their fees to it. £821.41 was raised.
    ALL the proceeds from the Band Aid and Cowell's Single goes to charity.
    That's excellent, I wasn't meaning you. And the door money is probably a sensible solution.
    Re Band-Aid: 'The proceeds' didn't include the cost of manufacture. I have no doubt that certain aspects of the Cowell single will need to be paid for before the 'proceeds' are disbursed.
    And give MJ their due, they've invested a lot of money, time & effort in their CD, I assume BEFORE the earthquake happened. So they didn't have to offer any cash. And even if their attempts at promotion have been clumsy, I think it cheapens our own charity by scornfully pointing at the attempts of others to do their bit.
    But what do Serenity and PartChimp do? (I'll be all mature now that everyone's gone pompous)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    That's excellent, I wasn't meaning you. And the door money is probably a sensible solution.
    Re Band-Aid: 'The proceeds' didn't include the cost of manufacture. I have no doubt that certain aspects of the Cowell single will need to be paid for before the 'proceeds' are disbursed.
    And give MJ their due, they've invested a lot of money, time & effort in their CD, I assume BEFORE the earthquake happened. So they didn't have to offer any cash. And even if their attempts at promotion have been clumsy, I think it cheapens our own charity by scornfully pointing at the attempts of others to do their bit.
    But what do Serenity and PartChimp do? (I'll be all mature now that everyone's gone pompous)
    Haha. I absolutely am not picking on MJ's generosity at all. I can just see why some people got a bit wound up about it. It just came across as them looking to profit.

    I fully understand production costs etc as I'm in a band that records CD's and plays gigs etc.
    Yeah I think the good deed was there, was just clumsy promotion I think.
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    At the end of the day, if the charity gets SOME money then I don't really care if someone else profits as well. Its not as if they are trying to hide the facts. Surely any money for the charity is better than none, and as long as they are not trying to con folks whats the problem.

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    Ach never mind Changi. The Haitians will get a couple of quid anyways.
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    You dont half advertise your band in the wrong way huh..
    You sound like your that confident that you are amazing, i wasnt too fond tbh ( as said on the thread where you pretended to not be you.. :S..
    If you were going to give to charity then give to charity, its not a half and half job. If your that confident that you are really good then you should have plenty more gigs organised to refund your licencing and production fees.
    If your that into helping the poor guys in Haiti then you would give ALL your takings to them.

    Anyone agree?

    Rant Over..

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtic1888 View Post
    You dont half advertise your band in the wrong way huh.. You sound like your that confident that you are amazing, i wasnt too fond tbh ( as said on the thread where you pretended to not be you.. :S.. If you were going to give to charity then give to charity, its not a half and half job. If your that confident that you are really good then you should have plenty more gigs organised to refund your licencing and production fees.
    If your that into helping the poor guys in Haiti then you would give ALL your takings to them. Anyone agree? Rant Over..
    Alright, how much have YOU given to the Haiti appeal? What? Only £5? Why didn't you give ALL your wages, your savings, your kids piggy bank money, after all 'charity is not a half and half job.'
    What did Mephis Jursidiction do to deserve this grief? Johnny Fatts gave nowt to the Haiti fund and everyone thinks he's a saint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    That's excellent, I wasn't meaning you. And the door money is probably a sensible solution.

    But what do Serenity and PartChimp do? (I'll be all mature now that everyone's gone pompous)

    That was what I suggested at the start. The OP asked for thoughts, that was my thought. I probably didn't take it too well when they took my advice badly.

    Again it does not matter at all what anyone else has done. Although the previous fundraiser was fantastic - well done to all involved.

    Finally, the OP idea is a good one. I just think the way it was put across is wrong. Maybe I am just cynical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubthumper View Post
    Alright, how much have YOU given to the Haiti appeal? What? Only £5? Why didn't you give ALL your wages, your savings, your kids piggy bank money, after all 'charity is not a half and half job.'
    What did Mephis Jursidiction do to deserve this grief? Johnny Fatts gave nowt to the Haiti fund and everyone thinks he's a saint.
    I havent given anything.. remembering im a full time student!!.. If i dNot an easy life when your young, running about in a car and have a MASSIVE insurance premium to pay and not working a lot you know?!
    What have you given like? sounds like you've got that much money that you could give them enough to get their lives back up and running.. bull like..

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    Quote Originally Posted by celtic1888 View Post
    I havent given anything.. remembering im a full time student!!.. If i dNot an easy life when your young, running about in a car and have a MASSIVE insurance premium to pay and not working a lot you know?! what have you given like? sounds like you've got that much money that you could give them enough to get their lives back up and running.. bull like.. C'yon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Again it does not matter at all what anyone else has done. Although the previous fundraiser was fantastic - well done to all involved. Finally, the OP idea is a good one. I just think the way it was put across is wrong. Maybe I am just cynical.
    Don't worry about it, it's too easy to get worked up. Clumsy, the wording.
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    Memphis Jurisdiction are just starting out, can't you just give them a break?

    FAO OP:
    I will buy your CD, I think its good music, and no matter how much a contribution your going to give Haiti im sure it's going to be appreciated by those who are suffering.
    I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore

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