University Applications - Personal Statements

[dragonfly]

daughter wants me to help her with her personal statement for her uni application but not having a clue about it don't know where to start helping her - any pointers as to what needs including??

[Alan16]

daughter wants me to help her with her personal statement for her uni application but not having a clue about it don't know where to start helping her - any pointers as to what needs including??

The thing I remember being told was "be honest" - speak about yourself, not about what you think the people want to read. You need to stand out, and not just follow the formula. She should talk about her skills, about extra-curricular activities she does. Show them that you will be a benefit to the university socially as well as academically.

[achingale]

Usually the teachers at school go over what you are supposed to put in your personal statement, but as Alan16 said, just be honest about yourself and good luck with the applications to the various places. I wish your daughter all the best for the future.

[Alan16]

Usually the teachers at school go over what you are supposed to put in your personal statement, but as Alan16 said, just be honest about yourself and good luck with the applications to the various places. I wish your daughter all the best for the future.

The teachers do go over it in school, quite thoroughly. But make sure you add your own touch to it, and don't just right about the things the teacher tells you to right - it will not stand out then.

[dragonfly]

thanks again Alan, she is also considering applying for Politics and International relations and has that as her choice for 2 uni's but the 1st link there shows that International Relations has had particularily high demand for the past 3 years and politics is another high demand subject.

She was talking about writing her personal statement to cover off both bio science and P&IR however after reading that I think I will try to convince her to apply for just the one subject and have a much stronger PS instead of a dual weak one as there is not much in common between the two

[dragonfly]

The thing I remember being told was "be honest" - speak about yourself, not about what you think the people want to read. You need to stand out, and not just follow the formula. She should talk about her skills, about extra-curricular activities she does. Show them that you will be a benefit to the university socially as well as academically.

thanks Alan16!

oh dear she's no chance if needing to be honest! mind you she does want to study biomedical sciences and there are a fair few undiscovered cultures growing in her bedroom so maybe she can use them as an example of her skills

[jimbews]

mind you she does want to study biomedical sciences

In the Guardian rankings:
http://browse.guardian.co.uk/education/2009
Enter Biosciences to get the University rankings.

The Times version:
http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_...rsityguide.php
has this as "Biological Sciences".

You may need to tweak this if the bias is more on the medical rather than the biological side.

From chemistry in St Andrews there is entry advice at:
http://chemistry.st-andrews.ac.uk/ad...ns/whysta.html

Have to admit a vested interest here, hence my link to that. Chemistry is linked (both physically and academically) with the Centre for Biomolecular Sciences and in fact it is a Chemistry professor who is currently director of the CBMS:

http://biology.st-andrews.ac.uk/cbms/

And its me who provides some IT support for CBMS as the 2 departments are spread over the 2 interlinked building (with another building hopefully starting this summer) but don't hold that against us :-)

Anyway - get the grades!! Can't speak for biology, but know we have put our entry requirements up twice recently. Also for the last few years St Andrews has NOT been in a position to have places left for "clearing".
Check the University website and arrange a visit on an open day.
There's ones on Wednesday afternoons for the whole Uni. In chemistry we also have some Saturday open days (and subsidise an overnight stay).

Next year will be an exciting one for all of us as the chemistry and biology teaching labs (and all of medicine) move into the new medical building which is nearing completion.

Well - suppose I'd better stop the hard sell (it's not like me, honest) and crawl back into a network closet!

JimBews

[Alan16]

Here are two websites with information about applying for university:

http://www.hss.ed.ac.uk/Undergraduat...infomature.htm - that is for applying to the College of Humanities & Social Sciences.

http://www.scieng.ed.ac.uk/Undergrad...20A-Levels.asp - that is for the College of Science and Engineering.

They are from Edinburgh University which is probably the most difficult university to get into in Scotland. From experience I can tell you that there standards are high, but it is well worth the effort.

I hope they come in useful.

[Serenity]

Here are two websites with information about applying for university:

http://www.hss.ed.ac.uk/Undergraduat...infomature.htm - that is for applying to the College of Humanities & Social Sciences.

http://www.scieng.ed.ac.uk/Undergrad...20A-Levels.asp - that is for the College of Science and Engineering.

They are from Edinburgh University which is probably the most difficult university to get into in Scotland. From experience I can tell you that there standards are high, but it is well worth the effort.

I hope they come in useful.

It is a sad situation, if true, that someone studying at the "most difficult university to get into in Scotland" cannot even tell the difference between their and there.

But to OP - her guidance teacher should go over it with her (assuming she is still at school) and there is plenty of time yet.

[Alan16]

It is a sad situation, if true, that someone studying at the "most difficult university to get into in Scotland" cannot even tell the difference between their and there.

But to OP - her guidance teacher should go over it with her (assuming she is still at school) and there is plenty of time yet.

Wow, I made a grammatical mistake. Somebody call my DoS, I'm not fit to be here!

There is plenty of time left, but you don't want to leave it too late. I had a friend who was clever enough to get in to any uni he applied for, but he left his PS until the last minute and had to rush it, and he didn't get where he wanted to go. My PS went through about half-a-dozen drafts before it was finished, so the sooner she starts the better.

[Tubthumper]

Wow, I made a grammatical mistake. Somebody call my DoS, I'm not fit to be here!

That's a point though - what will the uni make of crap spelling?

[~~Tides~~]

They are from Edinburgh University which is probably the most difficult university to get into in Scotland. From experience I can tell you that there standards are high.

You only think that because you are there.

Between Scotland’s top 4: Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, and St. Andrews it completely depends on the subject. However, if you want to look at it on average general terms, then St Andrews in the most difficult to get into followed by Glasgow. But as I said, across those 4 universities, it depends on the subject.

Not suggesting anything here, but Edinburgh seems to be quite easy to get into for fools with no life experience but who continually think themselves superior and are completely unjustifiably up themselves. Just my experience though...

[Alan16]

Not suggesting anything here, but Edinburgh seems to be quite easy to get into for fools with no life experience but who continually think themselves superior and are completely unjustifiably up themselves. Just my experience though...

And here lies subtlety. Sadly beaten to death on 19 November 2009, at around 10am.

[Tubthumper]

Not suggesting anything here, but Edinburgh seems to be quite easy to get into for fools with no life experience but who continually think themselves superior and are completely unjustifiably up themselves. Just my experience though...

Maybe I won't go to Edinburgh then. Heriot-Watt or Paisley sound OK though, for social life?

[Leanne]

It's all about selling yourself to the point of being cringeworthy. As brits its something that is beaten out of us at a young age. No wonder we find it so hard!

My friend asked me to critique her personal statement. This is it...

Throughout my life, I have always taken a keen interest in those around me. A number of experiences have helped me to realise the value of human life, and the effect our ideas and decisions have on others. In an attempt to further understand humans, as individuals and within society, I have undertaken A -levels of social sciences, and I feel that I am gaining a valuable insight into human interactions through this.

I am particularly interested in child development, including its effects on adult life, and on the resilience of human nature. Reading auto-biographical novels such as Dave Pelzer’s “A Child Called It” has sparked an emotive interest into the early experiences of children, which has led to an interest in psychology in general through the understanding of the human mind and our perception of events in our lives. Having undertaken work experience at a day care centre, I was intrigued as to the possible impact day care had on children and their cognitive and social development. Having volunteered at Penniwells RDA (Riding for the Disabled Association) Centre since December 2003 has taught me a great deal about how strong the human spirit is. A young girl with cerebral palsy that I regularly help to ride once told me that she felt great compassion for a man she had met that was suffering from mental illness, and felt that she was “very lucky, because at least her brain was working properly”. It is this kind of attitude from which I strive to understand the workings of the mind, because I feel that we owe it to other people to try to understand, and not to judge.

Volunteering at this association has taught me a lot of skills, including formal and informal interactions with clients and their families, as well as organisational aspects such as being given the responsibility of sole charge of a yard full of horses. I took part in the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme, gaining my Bronze, and through my participation in the scheme I have learnt important team building skills, as well as exploring different activities through the required sections. To enhance my sportsmanship and leadership skills, I took part in and passed a Junior Sports Leadership Award, which I thoroughly enjoyed, as I was able to learn off others and share my experience within a sporting setting.

Within the school environment I have been an active member of the community, being elected by the Senior Management Team to the role of Senior Prefect, among which duties involved break time supervision of lower school students and some administrative duties within specific departments. This role has also involved showing prospective parents and students around the school, and I gladly take on the responsibility of this to give back to my school what it has given me, a great deal of confidence and a strong work ethic. Within the Physical Education Department I was chosen as a Games Captain, responsible for the implementation and upkeep of a variety of sport groups for lower years, and for an impressive record of service myself to a large variety of teams, including football, cross country, athletics, rugby and netball. I have always enjoyed being involved in enhancing the experience of school for everyone I can, because I firmly believe that there is a lot more to education than just standard learning within the National Curriculum, and that a variety of interests can enhance social and cognitive development. I have also been involved in the tutoring of maths to underachieving pupils, as part of a school initiative to encourage young adults to assist other student’s learning. This has helped my learning, as I am required to look at things from an alternative viewpoint, to expand my teaching skills through tailoring them to the needs of the individual.

I am employed at a Riding School in Stanmore part-time, which allows me to pursue my interest in horse riding as a hobby, whilst learning valuable attributes that will help my career in future, such as dealing with the general public and clients, and time management. I am also involved in horse welfare decisions and am required to use problem solving skills on a daily basis. In my spare time I enjoy the challenge that horse riding brings, a chance to further not only my ability but also that of the horse I am riding, and I am a keen participant in dramatic productions, mainly behind the scenes, but I have also been in the chorus on a few occasions. Reading is a great passion of mine, whether it be fiction, autobiographical or factual, and I am especially fascinated with certain time periods of history, for example the obedience of many Germans under the reign of Hitler, or the genocide in Rwanda.

I think there is a lot to be learnt from studying the minds and choices of the human race, and that within the study of psychology for scientific purposes, I think it is important we also learn something about ourselves as humans.

I plan to take a gap year and therefore wish to apply for deferred entry because I would like to take a year out to experience a wider range of life to allow my perception of the world to mature. I am hoping to spend 4-6 months volunteering abroad, allowing me to come into contact with a large variety of people and to encounter cultures that are different from my own. I also hope to gain responsibility and independence though undertaking full time work and some travel, to allow my perspectives on life to broaden and to complement my further study the year after.

The only thing I could add to this was that I would have added a paragraph about why I wanted to go to the university and what it could offer me (why I had picked them over the dozens of others) - stroke their egos lol.

She got into Oxford by the way

mind you she does want to study biomedical sciences

Make sure she goes to a university that is accredited with the IBMS and CPA or she could find herself doing another year when she qualifies. I think we may have already discussed this in person though???????

Edit 2 - but I think the person I am thinking of has already started the degree so maybe I am wrong...

Having done the degree myself I can recommend it

[joxville]

How about this for a personal statement. It's a genuine statement and the writer now attends NYU.

IN ORDER FOR THE ADMISSIONS STAFF OF OUR COLLEGE TO GET TO KNOW YOU BETTER, WE ASK THAT YOU ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTION:
ARE THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCES YOU HAVE HAD, OR ACCOMPLISHMENTS YOU HAVE REALIZED, THAT HAVE HELPED TO DEFINE YOU AS A PERSON?


I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the areas of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently.
Occasionally, I treated water for three days in a row.
I woo women with my sensuous and god like trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am as expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.
Using only a ghow and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets, I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I’m bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.
I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don’t perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat 400.
My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles. Children trust me.
I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed several covert operations with the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.
I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four course meals using only a mouli and a toaster oven.
I breed prizewinning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin.
I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis.

But I have not yet gone to college.