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    read this story tonight at work and i was sickend and totally disgusted. heres the link.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2399352.ece
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    That is just revolting! They are 8 months old. That is abuse feeding them that when they are so young! Its probably harder work that she has to chew the food for them then feed them it!

    Im sure making some fruit would not go a miss!
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    Being as this piece of junk has come fresh from the Sun-- I would tend to rate it rather as sensationalism,'methinks there is more than a small piece of attention grabbing here. Surely the lasses progress would still be monitored by the stasi'-social services? I don't know-maby' not but I will not put a great deal of faith in the headline grabbing article.

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    she sounds more ignorant and not caring than anything. also seems very proud of the fact.
    dont get me wrong my kids eat pizza, chips, take away, processed food. and sweets but they are 6 and 4 years old.
    also try to balance it out with fruit and veg and home cooked meals.
    as infants they never ever ate jumk!
    even though i was a wild un.. and started feeding sam and ben baby rice heavily watered down with formula at about 3 mnths.. (hides from the HV)
    by 4- 6 mnths they were eating normal food, albeit turned into baby goo... by my blender.. not by chewing it up myself.. i am not a bird to regurgitate food!
    and at 8mnths they were eating normal everyday food... well playing wit it eating it throwing it... all the same thing!
    i remember ... one of bens fav. foods was shepards pie.
    sam has always been a spagetti man
    if it meat ben will eat it...
    and sam loves fruits.. we fight over strawberries in this house!
    i try and keep the salt content down... just add it when im cooking.. and they dont get any extra... but its all up in the air.. some days they eat really good and others.. well... there not going to starve at any rate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandy View Post
    dont get me wrong my kids eat pizza, chips, take away, processed food. and sweets but they are 6 and 4 years old.
    also try to balance it out with fruit and veg and home cooked meals.
    as infants they never ever ate jumk!
    even though i was a wild un.. and started feeding sam and ben baby rice heavily watered down with formula at about 3 mnths.. (hides from the HV)
    by 4- 6 mnths they were eating normal food, albeit turned into baby goo... by my blender.. not by chewing it up myself.. i am not a bird to regurgitate food!
    and at 8mnths they were eating normal everyday food... well playing wit it eating it throwing it... all the same thing!
    i remember ... one of bens fav. foods was shepards pie.
    sam has always been a spagetti man
    if it meat ben will eat it...
    and sam loves fruits.. we fight over strawberries in this house!
    i try and keep the salt content down... just add it when im cooking.. and they dont get any extra... but its all up in the air.. some days they eat really good and others.. well... there not going to starve at any rate!
    Sounds about right to me. I have to admit my kids diet is somewhat similar instead of spaghetti man I would have to say beans.

    To be honest this read as though she is a penny short of a pound.

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    my kids dont like chips and the such really they much prefer mince and tatties, stews and homemade soup, but the odd time they will have a pizza(especially if its saturday night and dads cooking lol). this woman is just vile, what sort of life are these babies going to have if this is how she is when they are only 8 months old, but my god the worst thing here is she only gets them dressed once a week and that is so she can go and get her dole money(not sure if that part is in the link i read the full story in the paper), ooohhh this is making me mad, surly it would be more cost effective for someone on the dole to make bulk meals instead of wating it on junk food, but wait that would take a bit of effort on her part to cook.

    Think she should get of her lazy behind and act like a mother, before its to late for these poor babies.
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    What is this article actually saying?????

    If 65% of mothers never cook a home cooked meal why has the sun picked on this particular woman? This wifie probably needs cookery lessons and budgeting lessons to show her how to eat well on a budget and how to cook nice nutritious food but actually this article doesnt say she feeds them solely on takeaways and macdonalds although it implies that. The woman actually says "They’re on the baby food jars and love the fish pie and cottage pie meals. But I see no harm in letting them have a few bits of my takeaways too" What is wrong with giving a baby a chip or a bit of fish or a bit of chicken nugget or a bit of a scone or cream cake that you re having from the cafe? If she was having a ceasar salad we would be up in arms about her giving them a bit of chicken or a crouton to chew on? what about if she was meeting friends for coffee in starbucks whould we think she was wicked for giving her wee one the crust off a panini or a bit of their chocolate decadence cake? ( my 18 month old LOVES that)

    When i had my eldest boys the guidelines were weaning at 12lbs or 12 weeks whichever came first. As a consequence both my eldest boys were perfectly able to chew a chip, especially a skinny macdonalds chip by the time they were 8 months old. Bread, eggs beans and spaghetti were all regular parts of their diet in addition to nice and tasty homecooked meals which i learned how to cook from my mum and from school. They also sometimes had food from jars.And sinful woman i am if we had fish and chips - they got a chip, if we had ice cream, they got a taste, if we had french bread they got some and it came with butter too!!!! Pretty much if it was on my plate and they were awakes tillt hey got a taste. A friend of mine works with low income families many of whom dont know how to cook good food cheaply. This is simply an example of that.

    And anyone who is muttering about her being too busy should try having triplets. Never mind having triplets on her own. She might not be very attractive or very bright or very good int he kitchen but she isnt the devil incarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidge View Post
    What is this article actually saying?????

    If 65% of mothers never cook a home cooked meal why has the sun picked on this particular woman? This wifie probably needs cookery lessons and budgeting lessons to show her how to eat well on a budget and how to cook nice nutritious food but actually this article doesnt say she feeds them solely on takeaways and macdonalds although it implies that. The woman actually says "They’re on the baby food jars and love the fish pie and cottage pie meals. But I see no harm in letting them have a few bits of my takeaways too" What is wrong with giving a baby a chip or a bit of fish or a bit of chicken nugget or a bit of a scone or cream cake that you re having from the cafe? If she was having a ceasar salad we would be up in arms about her giving them a bit of chicken or a crouton to chew on? what about if she was meeting friends for coffee in starbucks whould we think she was wicked for giving her wee one the crust off a panini or a bit of their chocolate decadence cake? ( my 18 month old LOVES that)

    When i had my eldest boys the guidelines were weaning at 12lbs or 12 weeks whichever came first. As a consequence both my eldest boys were perfectly able to chew a chip, especially a skinny macdonalds chip by the time they were 8 months old. Bread, eggs beans and spaghetti were all regular parts of their diet in addition to nice and tasty homecooked meals which i learned how to cook from my mum and from school. They also sometimes had food from jars.And sinful woman i am if we had fish and chips - they got a chip, if we had ice cream, they got a taste, if we had french bread they got some and it came with butter too!!!! A friend of mine works with low income families many of whom dont know how to cook good food cheaply. This is simply an example of that.

    And anyone who is muttering about her being too busy should try having triplets. Never mind having triplets on her own. She might not be very attractive or very bright or very good int he kitchen but she isnt the devil incarnate.
    mayby on the odd time a older child can have it but giving it to a 8 month old baby is disgusting, the guideline reckon you dont try a baby on solids unto they are 6 months old.

    a cookery leason, more like a reality check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Milkins View Post
    Oops, sorry Balto.

    I was reading your thread and then posted somthing totaly irellavent which should have been a new thread.

    I am sure the mods can move it ,please
    thought you were being random lol.
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    [QUOTE=balto;540899]mayby on the odd time a older child can have it but giving it to a 8 month old baby is disgusting, the guideline reckon you dont try a baby on solids unto they are 6 months old.

    Yes that may be the guideline but all children like adults are different and just because a book or government reccomends that you wean at 6months does not make it a reality! How many mums weaned before then? Loads im sure! I started at 3months because my child is an individual and couldnt of waited another 3 months!

    Not that i am for feeding my child takeaways but yeah on occasion we will have a chippy tea or she will get a sweety! I reckon this story has been blown out of proportion and is written to imply that she only ever gives them Macdonalds which isnt the case, but because of her weight problem we are quick to assume that!

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    That is horrific. That is appauling for a mum to do to her bairns.

    She has no idea of how to look after her bairns and has no right to keep them. They're only going to end up obese as children and growing up with such a unhealthy attitude to food while ensure that they will be the same as their mother.
    Honestly if she thinks shes that fat due to her thyroid then she's in serious denial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balto View Post
    mayby on the odd time a older child can have it but giving it to a 8 month old baby is disgusting, the guideline reckon you dont try a baby on solids unto they are 6 months old.

    a cookery leason, more like a reality check.
    The guidelines on weaning make me mad. They are issued by the WHO and you are absoutely right Balto they say that a baby should have nothing except breast or formula milk until they are 6 months old. What we have to remember however, is that these are WORLD guidelines. If your child is born in a country where low birth weight prevails, there is high infant mortality and you have little or no access to clean water or food preparation facilities it makes absolute sense to continue feeding your baby milk as long as possible. However, when you have a 9lb 4oz baby how long do you think milk will satisfy them?

    Over the last 20 years the weaning guidelines have changed from it being 12 weeks or 12lbs - whichever was the earliest, to 4 months to now being 6 months.After the first change - from 12 weeks to four months i queried the change with my health visitor who very kindly provided me with the research to explain why this change was necessary Along with the change that said you shouldnt offer proper milk to babies at six months but should continue to use breast or formula until 12 months. The research was paid for by the baby milk companies. Forgive me if that made me a little sceptical!!! This last 18 months i have regularly heard tales of crying babies and fraught mums who are struggling because their baby is 16 weeks and started to wake again in the night and cry and is unhappy and they are too scared to try them on baby rice because their health visitor says they have to wait until the baby is 6 months old. Its mad.

    Unfortunately babies dont read guidelines and they dont follow the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balto View Post
    mayby on the odd time a older child can have it but giving it to a 8 month old baby is disgusting, the guideline reckon you dont try a baby on solids unto they are 6 months old.

    a cookery leason, more like a reality check.
    8 months is older than 6 months so solids would be acceptable at that age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vistravi View Post
    That is horrific. That is appauling for a mum to do to her bairns.

    She has no idea of how to look after her bairns and has no right to keep them. They're only going to end up obese as children and growing up with such a unhealthy attitude to food while ensure that they will be the same as their mother.
    Honestly if she thinks shes that fat due to her thyroid then she's in serious denial.

    Thats a dreadful thing to say!!!!! She may need educating about nutrition and cookery lessons but to say she she has no right to keep them because she admits to giving her kids a chip and makes an excuse for being fat is just shocking.

    Crikey we are all so perfect arent we!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    but she did say that she dosent want them to eat healtily.. and steered them away from healthy foods in fear they would become anorexic. shes not alone.. she lives with her mum and brother.
    and she alluded to the fact that she wanted them to be big like her..
    an occasional mac'D chip or bite is one thing.splitting a kids meal between them once in a while.. thats fine... but as a stable diet.. what nutrition are they getting?
    im the oldest of seven, my mom still found time to feed us, and i can tell you it wasnt fast food! hw could you afford it!?
    i have two children, one of them is in the process of being accesed for autismn and their is only a year and 4 mnths between them, plus i work and do a million other things... they still get 3 square meals a day. wheter its eaten or destroyed is another story.
    on the flip side.. i could almost understand the not dressing bit.. but thats because i kept ben naked most of the time.. in only a nappy as he had horrible exema.. and it was better for him to be a nappy only boy! but i think that this is out of choice more than need.
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    There is only one shocker in this article. Close to the end, where a poll claims that 65% of mothers never cook their children a meal ( A proper meal, not a tin/frozen/pre-prepared). THAT is the shocker. This mother is the result of a family where no one cooked s meal for her as a child, so why should she have learned and done any different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidge View Post
    The guidelines on weaning make me mad. They are issued by the WHO
    Too right!! Roger Daltrey kens hee-haw about weaning bairns, and I'm not just talking about my generation here

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ju_ View Post
    There is only one shocker in this article. Close to the end, where a poll claims that 65% of mothers never cook their children a meal ( A proper meal, not a tin/frozen/pre-prepared). THAT is the shocker. This mother is the result of a family where no one cooked s meal for her as a child, so why should she have learned and done any different?
    The relevant extract from The Sun is this.
    The Infant and Toddler Forum poll also discovered that 65 per cent of mums NEVER cook meals from scratch.
    I think this says more about the posters on the Infant and Toddler forum than about mums as a whole.

    The article is a good example of tabloid journalism it its worst, it implies one thing while saying another. Why would anyone read the Sun and take it seriously? Is it to make you feel better or superior? Mind you, one could say the same about reading most of the threads on the Org.

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    my eldest son has a terrible diet, wont eat veg, anything with a sauce or gravy, basically anything healthy. And it has not been for the lack of trying on my part. Trips to drs, visits from the health visitor. He is 9 now, and is healthy, but i have no idea why.

    my youngest son is the opposite, loves his food. And yes they get treats like McDs now and then, but never at that age, thats shocking, those poor kids.

    This woman was on GMTV this morning. didnt hear what she was saying, but she was defending her decisions....
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    Iona likes spring rolls from the chinese takeaway and will eat kedgeree, curry, crisps, fishfingers and chips.
    Iona will be 1 in may.

    She had her 1st taste of chocolate at 6 months and a chip at 7months! (big sis gave them to her)
    I dont think there is any harm in giving kids "junk food" now and then.
    I cook proper homemade meals and usually love cooking most of the time and both girls will happily eat fruit and veg.
    I dont put salt in my cooking for the kids at home but when out and about you cannot avoid it!
    I do not use jars of babyfood as it tastes "artificial" to proccessed and bland.
    The food that is seen as junk is ok if eaten in moderation like all other foods....who would feed a kid just carrots??

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