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    I am trying to do some research online the now..... anyone fancy contributing....your thoughts and views greatly welcomed....

    "When they are honest, most people admit that money is the main motivator for working"

    does anyone agree/disagree have any comment to make??

    Cheers :-)

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    work to live not live to work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    I am trying to do some research online the now..... anyone fancy contributing....your thoughts and views greatly welcomed....

    "When they are honest, most people admit that money is the main motivator for working"

    does anyone agree/disagree have any comment to make??

    Cheers :-)
    Yes, the main motivator in as much as we all need to feed ourselves and take care of our physical needs/wants.

    Unless you are independently wealthy some motivation must be financial, but there is also the challenge of "playing the game" , of being the best we can in a way that is tangible to ourselves and others.

    Personally I am just counting the days until I am out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    "When they are honest, most people admit that money is the main motivator for working"
    does anyone agree/disagree have any comment to make??
    Cheers :-)
    Agree to a certain extent, as a young newly wed with a family on the way then yes. we needed every penny I could earn.
    But now later in life as a retired person, I have a job and I get payed, but now I do it for enjoyment, not to put food on the table or clothes on my children's backs. With the monies I get now, I use them to enjoy myself and spend them on frivolous things like shoes for Mrs G and her getting her hair done, being a simple chap I settle for the odd bottle of Real Ale now and again
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    thanks for your replies.... I would say that I object to the statement as a whole..... once you break down and look at definitions of motivation and the different academic schools of thought I agree with your comments about there being a NEED to earn money with which to exist....especially as a young person/newly wed/starting family....

    HOWEVER there is a difference between a DRIVE and a MOTIVE - we are driven to work as a means by which we exist..... we have motives that affect our behaviour and our work performance....

    Money can be a motivator if we earn commission in our work or have performance related pay but can also be a demotivator if we are really poorly paid or we perceive ourselves to be getting paid maybe over the odds for a particular job in which case we become complacent and have a laissez faire attitude to work.......

    So money drives us to work but when we do work do you think we work in the hope we will get paid more? or do we work for recognition, more responsibility? praise? thanks for a job well done? for pride???

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    thanks for your replies.... I would say that I object to the statement as a whole..... once you break down and look at definitions of motivation and the different academic schools of thought I agree with your comments about there being a NEED to earn money with which to exist....especially as a young person/newly wed/starting family....

    HOWEVER there is a difference between a DRIVE and a MOTIVE - we are driven to work as a means by which we exist..... we have motives that affect our behaviour and our work performance....

    Money can be a motivator if we earn commission in our work or have performance related pay but can also be a demotivator if we are really poorly paid or we perceive ourselves to be getting paid maybe over the odds for a particular job in which case we become complacent and have a laissez faire attitude to work.......

    So money drives us to work but when we do work do you think we work in the hope we will get paid more? or do we work for recognition, more responsibility? praise? thanks for a job well done? for pride???
    Ah, you're playing with semantics now. In the sense that you asked the question. Money is the motivator, as to our perception of reward, self-worth etc, that's a whole nother thing!

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    Yes, I have to agree with Golach - when younger, it was imperative to work hard at the best job you could find/get and try to earn money for the family.
    Personally speaking, now I'm older, I would rather have a job that I thoroughly enjoyed doing that paid a pittance, than work somewhere I didn't like for an extra £30 or so a week.

    Mind, I have a hubby who works a good job, doing what he enjoys & that affords me to have a choice - if his job finished, then I'd go scrub loos if it meant that our quality of life wasn't compromised.

    It's actually a minefield of a question, provoking many different responses given the point of life the individual is at, at a particular time.
    And, being honest, I don't even work anymore! Which then leads me to think that my ideal job hasn't been invented yet maybe.......
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    thank yous seem to be non existant but critisism is plenty ...
    disheartening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadie View Post
    thank yous seem to be non existant but critisism is plenty ...
    disheartening
    Who is being critical and who is failing in their thanks?

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    THEFUGITIVE1993 ------ well sorry ( im stupid I dont even know what semantics are) well no im not really going into self worth etc.. the way you're talking I presume you'll me all clued up on Maslows hierarchy of needs..... in which you are right the motivation at the bottom of the hierarchy is for FOOD, DRINK, SEX etc and then the next level security so SHELTER and the basics there all of which we will be motivated by our need for money to achieve these but once these have been satisfied and we move up the hierarchy we are motivated by other things and right at the top self actualisation which our self worth etc comes in.

    am I just talking nonsense.....??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    THEFUGITIVE1993 ------ well sorry ( im stupid I dont even know what semantics are) well no im not really going into self worth etc.. the way you're talking I presume you'll me all clued up on Maslows hierarchy of needs..... in which you are right the motivation at the bottom of the hierarchy is for FOOD, DRINK, SEX etc and then the next level security so SHELTER and the basics there all of which we will be motivated by our need for money to achieve these but once these have been satisfied and we move up the hierarchy we are motivated by other things and right at the top self actualisation which our self worth etc comes in.

    am I just talking nonsense.....??
    Yes and being verbose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadie View Post
    thank yous seem to be non existant but critisism is plenty ...
    disheartening
    Dadie...what type of work do you do ??

    I find that different industries have very different motivators.... this type of comment is like a satisfaction and dissatisfaction with work..... lack of praise and thanks is disheartening and so a demotivator - a sort of spiral all the managers or supervisors do is moan and you feel like you can never please so you bother less and less...... where as a little praise would motivate you to work harder/ perform better/ care more and so in turn criticism would be less.??

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    I train people in motivational interviewing techniques for behaviour change based on diclemente and prochaska's cycle of change and a fundamental principle of this is that everyone is motivated all the time but in either direction e.g to lose weight or not to lose weight, to work or not to work. Another principle is that where that motivation comes from, the rationale for the persons choices, are individual to that person, and may change for any number of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    THEFUGITIVE1993 ------ well sorry ( im stupid I dont even know what semantics are) well no im not really going into self worth etc.. the way you're talking I presume you'll me all clued up on Maslows hierarchy of needs..... in which you are right the motivation at the bottom of the hierarchy is for FOOD, DRINK, SEX etc and then the next level security so SHELTER and the basics there all of which we will be motivated by our need for money to achieve these but once these have been satisfied and we move up the hierarchy we are motivated by other things and right at the top self actualisation which our self worth etc comes in.

    am I just talking nonsense.....??
    Not sure where in Maslows hierarchy my motivation comes in, I would then say Shelter and Preservation for my family sometimes we went hungry, so I must be at the bottom of the ladder in the Hierarchy stakes but I always knew that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefugitive1993 View Post
    Yes and being verbose
    verbose?? what 's that all about??

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    Quote Originally Posted by orkneylass View Post
    I train people in motivational interviewing techniques for behaviour change based on diclemente and prochaska's cycle of change and a fundamental principle of this is that everyone is motivated all the time but in either direction e.g to lose weight or not to lose weight, to work or not to work. Another principle is that where that motivation comes from, the rationale for the persons choices, are individual to that person, and may change for any number of reasons.
    Exactly motivation concerns a persons choice, good or bad, of what to do, how hard to do it and how long they keep trying. Because circumstances change motivation changes and as Maslow decribes once the basic requirements of life are satisfied different motivational urges will arise to satisfy different expectations of life.

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    Is this the model you are talking ab out orkney lass?? I have been studying it too!!

    1. Precontemplative - unaware
    Where you are not aware of any problems with the group's performance or do not associate them with your leadership style

    2. Contemplative - thinking about it
    Where you see performance and employee motivation linked to your leadership style, but cannot decide how best to react.

    3. Preparation - doing homework
    Where you start learning about different leadership styles, deciding what works for you and developing some skills.

    4. Action - making it happen
    Where you are looking for situations to develop your new leadership behaviours, looking to improve performance of the group.

    5. Maintenance - focus on success
    Where you seek feedback on the value of your leadership in meeting the social/emotional needs of the group. Negative feedback makes you revert to your old (more comfortable style). A Change Coach can be vital at this stage to help you maintain and develop your new style.

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    Money is important, yes, but perhaps the support and approval of your family and peers is greater. Money is of little avail when your are out on a limb by yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    Is this the model you are talking ab out orkney lass?? I have been studying it too!!

    1. Precontemplative - unaware
    Where you are not aware of any problems with the group's performance or do not associate them with your leadership style

    2. Contemplative - thinking about it
    Where you see performance and employee motivation linked to your leadership style, but cannot decide how best to react.

    3. Preparation - doing homework
    Where you start learning about different leadership styles, deciding what works for you and developing some skills.

    4. Action - making it happen
    Where you are looking for situations to develop your new leadership behaviours, looking to improve performance of the group.

    5. Maintenance - focus on success
    Where you seek feedback on the value of your leadership in meeting the social/emotional needs of the group. Negative feedback makes you revert to your old (more comfortable style). A Change Coach can be vital at this stage to help you maintain and develop your new style.

    Well, the context I work in is individual behaviour change so it goes like this:

    Pre-contemplation - no interest in changing or no awareness that change is necessary or desirable, or a belief that change is impossible.

    Contemplation - thinking about change but not yet actually doing anything about it - can see the pros and cons of change and the possibility of making changes

    Preparation - taking steps towards change but not yet making the change - gathering information on ways of changing, sources of help and supprt, gathering equipment or resources to enable change, finding out what has worked for other people etc

    Action - Making the change but having to work hard at it.

    Maintenance - putting in the effort to keep the new behaviour going and not lapse into old habits - for some people the hardest part and for some, a lifelong commitment. Stopping smoking is a good example.

    Relapse - taking a step backwards - this is a normal part of the change process and can be a valuable learning exercise - a chance to avoid triggers to lapsing in future or seek out further support or techniques to help ensure that future changes are maintained.

    The model is often shown as a circle or a spiral. the stages don't necessarily happen neatly and in order although for the most part, contemplation and planning are more likely to make action successful and lead to stable maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEP_ON_TRUCKIN View Post
    THEFUGITIVE1993 ------ well sorry ( im stupid I dont even know what semantics are) well no im not really going into self worth etc.. the way you're talking I presume you'll me all clued up on Maslows hierarchy of needs..... in which you are right the motivation at the bottom of the hierarchy is for FOOD, DRINK, SEX etc and then the next level security so SHELTER and the basics there all of which we will be motivated by our need for money to achieve these but once these have been satisfied and we move up the hierarchy we are motivated by other things and right at the top self actualisation which our self worth etc comes in.

    am I just talking nonsense.....??


    Maslow also believed that we feel nothing when the first four level are achieved but rather have a feeling of anxiety if they're not achieved. I guess that's why some people achieve no further than the most basic of physiological needs - food, drink sex etc resulting in people unable to meet the need for morality, confidence, friendship, security etc etc.

    Going by Maslows belief and his perception that people constantly need to immerse themselves with beautiful and/or pleasing surroundings, objects etc (consciously or sub consciously) paid work could obviously be the motivation for the end result.
    However, how a person achieves the top level of Maslows theory - Self actualisation - is another matter which again determines what they will gain from that stage of life. i.e Those that have achieved it in a healthy fullfilling way and those that have achieved it in a selfish non-healthy way.

    In answer to your original question Keep-On-Truckin: In this day in age unfortunately money is the quickest and often only way to meet the most basic of human needs. So with that in mind I would have to agree that in the majority of cases money would be the main motivator for working, to meet Pysiological, psychological and emotional needs.
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