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    Default Anti-vaxxers claim another life

    From Guido Fawkes

    The first and currently only hospital patient to die with Omicron was unvaccinated, according to a close relative appearing on LBC this morning. Speaking to Nick Ferrari, the stepson of the man who died earlier this week claimed that he had been taken in by “conspiracy theories”, and refused to take the vaccine despite being in his early 70s:

    “He thought it was a conspiracy. He was an intelligent man but it’s all these different things you are getting from online and different media things… He wasn’t vaccinated at all.”

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    Did they show proof of the blood taken that was sent to the lab, tested and proven, that he actually had it? everything being labelled as cocid without actual blood drawn lab tested proof. vaxxed also still get flu.

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    Blood test for covid patients? I haven't been on Facebook lately....

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    My workmate
    who had the vaccine a couple of days then he felt ill before spewing up blood
    Was taken to hospital and was told it was a side effect of the vaccine
    kept in for a week and various tests done, on his heart and brain

    last day in hospital he was put into a ward with other people
    who were also in for side effects from the vaccine, everyone in that ward
    A couple of weeks after leaving hospital, he went to see his own GP regarding further tests to find out if there was any issues with his heart following this
    His GP checked his medical records, there was absolutely no mention of him ever having been in hospital
    Although it did say on his records he had COVID, which he never had as he was tested twice before being admitted and daily while in the hospital for 7 days. All came back negative
    His GP contacted the hospital to get this added to his medical records and months later it still has not been added

    This same guy actually went to get his second vaccine after this and was told he was not allowed it after he had told them what happened after he had the first vaccine

    This isn’t a Facebook story or conspiracy theory story
    It’s a guy I’ve known for years and worked with and know personally

    and he clearly isn’t a conspiracy theorist if he took the first vaccine and after what happened went to get the second

    Vaxxer now may have heart condition at 34 years old
    Last edited by auk; 19-Mar-22 at 19:34.

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    Dear Auk - this is a fascinating post, not because of the content, but because of its form.
    It is a classic example of an urban myth / conspiracy meme!

    Red flag number one is starting with "My workmate", or sister-in-law, or cousin's yoga teacher etc etc.
    You then introduce a nice dramatic note with "spewing up blood", but fail to give any useful medical detail on tests and results.
    Which ward, in what hospital?
    And you do feel the need to tell us that this is not a "conspiracy theory story! Actually, that is exactly what it is...
    The only substance of your tale is that someone was unwell, their medical notes were not immediately updated, and they were refused their 2nd jab because of a suspected previous reaction. Not exactly front page news.
    And calling people who accept vaccination "vaxxers" does not make 85% of the adult population a dodgy cult.

    Anyone who disregards the overwhelming global data on vaccine protection is misguided, to put it mildly!
    The skills we all need to process conflicting info, gossip, propaganda, and, above all, statistics, should be taught from an early age.



    Quote Originally Posted by auk View Post
    My workmate
    who had the vaccine a couple of days then he felt ill before spewing up blood
    Was taken to hospital and was told it was a side effect of the vaccine
    kept in for a week and various tests done, on his heart and brain

    last day in hospital he was put into a ward with other people
    who were also in for side effects from the vaccine, everyone in that ward
    A couple of weeks after leaving hospital, he went to see his own GP regarding further tests to find out if there was any issues with his heart following this
    His GP checked his medical records, there was absolutely no mention of him ever having been in hospital
    Although it did say on his records he had COVID, which he never had as he was tested twice before being admitted and daily while in the hospital for 7 days. All came back negative
    His GP contacted the hospital to get this added to his medical records and months later it still has not been added

    This same guy actually went to get his second vaccine after this and was told he was not allowed it after he had told them what happened after he had the first vaccine

    This isn’t a Facebook story or conspiracy theory story
    It’s a guy I’ve known for years and worked with and know personally

    and he clearly isn’t a conspiracy theorist if he took the first vaccine and after what happened went to get the second

    Vaxxer now may have heart condition at 34 years old

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    Dear Mackeral


    its fascinating how you don’t have the ability to believe a quite truthful story
    but can believe a post from some guy called Guido Fawkes from a website online


    I’m afraid this is not an urban myth or conspiracy theory
    Sorry to disappoint you on that point, as it doesn’t fit in with your viewpoint of how the world actually is


    I suppose you would like me to share my workmates name and address so you can contact him to confirm the validity of his story


    I will however tell you the name of the hospital, and where his GP is if that helps you
    Aberdeen Hospital and “My workmate” is from Middlesbrough which is where his GP is
    My workmate is hardly my friends cousins mothers sister type story
    Like I had said, I’ve known him for years and know him personally


    The news and papers must be the only one that can tell the truth and the rest of us must all be liars based on your comment
    Or have you contacted the site from the original post at the top so you can confirm if that story is true
    Or do you believe that one without question because it matches your beliefs


    If you think it’s okay for a previous healthy 34 year old person to now have a potentially serious heart condition that’s up to you.
    With regard what he was told by the hospital, he was told it was a side effect of the vaccine
    They carried out tests, and if you had read my post you would have noticed, NOTHING is recorded on his medical records
    He is to get further tests on his heart to find out if there is any permanent damage
    Maybe not headline news to you, but definitely is to his wife and kids. Seeing as he is only 34 years old


    You can find data from both sides of this argument online
    good and bad
    Hope you contacted them to confirm the validity of their information
    Or do you believe the newscaster who says boris’s, advisors, researchers, pharmaceutical specialist said so
    Any different than my friends mothers cousins sister ?


    hope you have a nice day ��

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