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    This good enough for you orkneycadian? It's on the BBC website right now and suggest you read it.
    It's called 'People on the edge of exhaustion' and here's some of it (my daughter was also re-deployed, but no, she is not in print):
    "I still have nightmares most nights about being completely out of my depth."


    Gemma, a ward nurse in Northern Ireland, was redeployed to a critical care unit at the end of March when the first wave of coronavirus struck.


    "I had never looked after a critically ill intensive care patient in my life," she says.


    "I just thought, I'm coming in here and I'm going to die. I'm going to catch Covid and I'm going to be one of those patients in the beds."


    As the second wave of the pandemic takes deep root across parts of the UK, thousands of NHS workers are struggling to recover from what they have already been through.


    "We were all in PPE all the time," recalls Nathan, a senior intensive care nurse at a hospital in the Midlands. "All you can see is people's eyes, you can't see anything else."


    He describes trying to help junior members of staff survive long and difficult days.


    "And I'd see these eyes as big as saucers saying help me, do something. Make this right. Fix this."


    "The pressure was insane, and the anxiety just got me," he says. "I couldn't sleep, and I couldn't eat, I was sick before work, I was shaking before I got into my car in the morning."


    Nathan ended up having time off with severe anxiety, but he is now back at the hospital, waiting for the beds to fill up again.


  2. #482

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    They dont sound to me like folk who had either the time or the energy to set up bowling alleys in the hospital corridors as alleged by orkneycadian.

  3. #483
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    Yup, there have been articles like that since MArch and beyond. And there have also been the "other articles";

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-cancelled-nhs

    Which dates from April.

    and from June;

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sis-empty.html

    Now, bear in mind, that before March, our hospitals were pretty stretched at the best of times already. The Nightingales / Louisa Jordan / Dragons Heart were meant to catch all that overspill. 154 patients out of a total capacity of 16 or 17,000

  4. #484

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    Quote Originally Posted by orkneycadian View Post
    Yup, there have been articles like that since MArch and beyond. And there have also been the "other articles";

    Now, bear in mind, that before March, our hospitals were pretty stretched at the best of times already. The Nightingales / Louisa Jordan / Dragons Heart were meant to catch all that overspill. 154 patients out of a total capacity of 16 or 17,000
    Covid-19 moved to first cause of death in New York before measures kicked in. I see you're banned now so no point arguing further, you clearly can't see we want to keep it (further) down by implementing control. You against the world eh? Cases in USA continue to rise, could be a big week.

    Expect to see more headlines like this:

    Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/...navirus-cases/

    'People are dying every night': Staff at overwhelmed Wisconsin hospital urge people to take coronavirus seriously

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...ly/3669849001/
    Maybe worth posting in case orkneycadian is still watching, kind of sums it up?

    "I think the thing that's most painful for them right now, and most challenging for them, is while they're working their butts off — and they're working hard — it's the fact that they don't know if the community sees how serious this is," Heywood said. "They see the politicization of it, and then they see the repercussions of what's happening when they do their job every day.

    "And they're watching people die."

    Eggman, who's worked as a registered nurse for 20 years, said he thinks anyone who spent just 15 minutes with him on "any given day" would be taking every possible precaution to avoid catching or spreading coronavirus.
    "It's not just about you," he said. "It's about the people you care about, as well."

    Eggman has also listened to the final words of COVID-19 patients.

    "We have many patients who have come in here and their last words before we put a in breathing tube are they didn't realize it was as bad as it was," he said.


  5. #485

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    I am trying to get ‘The gist’ of what is going on here.....
    Why was OC banned?
    I dealt with many very serious emergencies as ‘a worker’ and as a ‘Senior Manager’. Some people get used to these ‘things’. Others who are in usually quiet places, do not.
    For some it is distressing, for others for whom it becomes a daily routine just ‘gets on with it’. And people ‘have to get on with it’ to protect others! If not, how would we survive.
    And let me add...I see many quotes here just now are from the United States.... Believe it or not....some of this is Political.....churned out by CNN, copied by BBC.
    I am not saying that Covid is not serious......but generally, Hospitals are near capacity all the time. A year ago a friend was taken into hospital in a beautiful area outside Toronto and lay in the hallway for some 4/5 days. Suddenly the Staff who are running ‘flat out’ most of the time get an influx of patients and its chaos!
    Take a look at the UK stats for Ambulance wait times for 999 calls. Sometimes 12/24 hours.
    My Daughter works in a Hosp and was ‘re deployed’. She stood up and did her work, and is still at it.
    I think the word is Simply ‘Dedication’.
    I read some of the comments. In PPE all the time..,seeing eyes.......etc etc.
    It’s an education and a learning period for all of us. Regards.

    p.s. I just read the Utah story..they are Democrats and blaming Prez Trump thru CNN reporting, who is Anti Prez Trump.
    Last edited by The Horseman; 28-Oct-20 at 02:56.

  6. #486

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    i was thinking the same horseman why was he banned i dont agree with alot he says but thats his opinion

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    Yes DC1. I have read a bit more and NH’s descriptors are common terms in a busy Hosp. People die there. People are under pressure, who perhaps have not dealt with these situations and have have never seen death.
    And the UK’s Nat Health stories....they had extra hospital facilities set up and haven't used them!
    Perhaps Bill Fernie could advise why OC was banned.
    It will give us all ‘guidance’ on what is ‘not acceptable’. This is a Private Board...ty

  8. #488

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    Like many, I am wondering which tier we might be in come Monday and have just read this. However, I can't see that it is truly level one if the ban on 6 people from 2 different households meeting indoors continues to apply.
    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has indicated that some councils currently under Level 2-type restrictions could be moved into the next tier down. However, although the Level 1 definition includes six people from two households meeting indoors this would not apply to any council that finds itself in that category on 2 November. That said, hospitality would be able to open until 22:30.



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  9. #489

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    Yes, I see your system is as confusing as ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulmar View Post
    That said, hospitality would be able to open until 22:30.
    If I may, to clarify, what may seem like a small point but is actually very significant to us employed in hospitality,
    in Level One, hospitality is allowed to be open until 21:30 with all customers to leave by 22:30.

    Thanks.

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