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    Default Would Spain veto Scottish membership of the EU?

    It seems from comments made on another thread that some people would like to keep peddling the myth that Spain would veto Scotland's application to join the EU if ever we became independent.

    This myth has been busted so many times by so many people yet still the Unionists on here want to try to scare people that it is true.

    Let's just nail it once and for all:-

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-sp...-idUKKCN1NP25P

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...work-nicely-eu

    https://www.catalannews.com/politics...ndent-scotland

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...eu-membership/

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...o-eu-1-4942030

    https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-membe...pain-scotland/

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...n-eu-t3dvg6t9r

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    Well Corky, I guess I walked into that one, didn't I? I've up-repped you to acknowledge that I was wrong, and you're right on this particular issue (hopefully that won't grate too much ) though comments made by Barroso, Schultz and others in recent times indicate that, as usual, they're not that interested in making life easy for anyone. Tell me - how do YOU see an independent Scotland structured? Currency? Central Bank? Defence and security? Taxation?


    And although this is slightly off-topic, on a point of information, please don't include me in your group of "Unionists". As I said, my position is simple; if Scotland wants independence, Scotland should have it through an agreed democratic process. And when you get a vote which is split 52:48 in favour of independence, I hope Scotland doesn't have its own kilted Gina McMiller to go to Court to try to override the democratic will. Or Lib Dems who simply want to override the vote because, y'know, reasons.........

    The other side of my view is that independence cuts both ways. It affects the rest of the country outside Scotland just as fundamentally as it affects Scotland. Accordingly, ALL UK citizens must have a vote on the matter. I very, very strongly suggest that if Her Eminence wants a pro-independence referendum result she should campaign for the English to be included in it. The Welsh and Northern Irish might have some interesting views, too.

    And now, if you'll excuse me, I have some baking to get back to. A Dundee Cake! How marvellously patriotic. Covered in nuts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by j4bberw0ck View Post
    Tell me - how do YOU see an independent Scotland structured? Currency? Central Bank? Defence and security? Taxation?

    Nope, thought not. No more answers here than Ms Sturgeon had for Andrew Neil. Yesbutnobutyesbutnobut.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by j4bberw0ck View Post
    Nope, thought not. No more answers here than Ms Sturgeon had for Andrew Neil. Yesbutnobutyesbutnobut.....
    Do you seriously think I'm going to invite a pile-on from the mad Yoons on here?

    Also, Andrew Neil has form when it comes to his anti-SNP tactics. He has already been found guilty of misleading viewers when he made false claims about levels of illiteracy in Scotland. https://inews.co.uk/news/andrew-neil...m-finds-502935

    He clearly has an agenda and a minor rap over the knuckles from OFCOM isn't going to stop him. He should be sacked as he has breached BBC rules on impartiality but he won't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corky Smeek View Post
    Do you seriously think I'm going to invite a pile-on from the mad Yoons on here?
    Well, evidently you're not. But it does sort of reduce you to a lone voice howling regurgitated headlines in the far distance. And there's no shortage of those.

    Andrew Neil is the only media interviewer who treats all politicians for what they are. Liars. To that extent they're all equal when they're sat in front of him, and I commend him for it.


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    "But it does sort of reduce you to a lone voice howling regurgitated headlines in the far distance"

    If this is true why am I coming in for so much flak from the lunatic fringe on here?

    "Andrew Neil is the only media interviewer who treats all politicians for what they are. Liars. To that extent they're all equal when they're sat in front of him, and I commend him for it."

    I think the fact that you are prepared publicy to commend someone who has been independently assessed by OFCOM as having deliberately deceived the public is an interesting line for you to take. What is the difference between one set of liars and another?
    Last edited by Corky Smeek; 27-Nov-19 at 15:52. Reason: correction

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