Dairy products are causing cancer.

**Goodfellers** · 28-Jan-17, 12:08

Originally Posted by sids

You go first.

LOL.......That's why people keep visiting this thread............it can be entertaining, oh yes and very informative..............zzzz

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 13:48

Originally Posted by Goodfellers

LOL.......That's why people keep visiting this thread............it can be entertaining, oh yes and very informative..............zzzz

I think you guys need to get your stories straight and sing off the same hymn sheet. I have been told many times that this thread is past its time, boring, irritating, offensive, repetitive, uninteresting and having a detrimental effect on the forum. It can't be any of these if it is entertaining and informative. The truth is people just want to gag this thread because they don't want to be reminded that their lifestyle choices are bad for their health, bad for the environment and ethically bad for animals. They'd rather just eat their meat in blissful ignorance. It really is that simple.

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 14:05

Here is another study to add to the growing body of evidence in the case against eating meat.

CONCLUSIONS:

These results support the accumulating evidence that consumption of meats cooked by methods that promote carcinogen formation may increase risk of postmenopausal breast cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17435448

**sids** · 28-Jan-17, 14:09

This thread is your blog.

But nobody would read it in an actual blog or Twitter (because there are millions of better ones by actual clever people) which would be bad for your fragile ego, so you spam a forum with it.

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 14:46

Here is another study to show that eating meat may raise the risk of developing pancreatic cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16172241

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 14:48

Originally Posted by sids

This thread is your blog.

But nobody would read it in an actual blog or Twitter (because there are millions of better ones by actual clever people) which would be bad for your fragile ego, so you spam a forum with it.

If you are irritated by it or offended by my ignorance then don't visit this thread and/or put me on 'ignore'. It really is that simple. Why put yourself through this?

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 15:02

Here is another study, that suggests that eating over cooked meat is strongly associated with bowel cancer. Not good news for those that like bbq meat.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11352869

**The Horseman** · 28-Jan-17, 15:30

Gotta keep up with the Colonoscopies!

**sids** · 28-Jan-17, 16:12

Originally Posted by Rheghead

If you are irritated by it or offended by my ignorance

What if I'm not?

What do you want to tell me to do then?

**sids** · 28-Jan-17, 16:13

Originally Posted by The Horseman

Gotta keep up with the Colonoscopies!

Have they got a new car?

**Rheghead** · 28-Jan-17, 16:18

Originally Posted by sids

What if I'm not?

What do you want to tell me to do then?

If you aren't offended or irritated then why make out that you are? Why the fake irritation?

**sids** · 29-Jan-17, 02:26

Originally Posted by Rheghead

If you aren't offended or irritated then why make out that you are? Why the fake irritation?

Why indeed!

Depends whether or not I'm offended or irritated, or not.

**Goodfellers** · 29-Jan-17, 10:49

Originally Posted by Rheghead

I think you guys need to get your stories straight and sing off the same hymn sheet. I have been told many times that this thread is past its time, boring, irritating, offensive, repetitive, uninteresting and having a detrimental effect on the forum. It can't be any of these if it is entertaining and informative. The truth is people just want to gag this thread because they don't want to be reminded that their lifestyle choices are bad for their health, bad for the environment and ethically bad for animals. They'd rather just eat their meat in blissful ignorance. It really is that simple.

Oh yes, and very informative…………..zzz I know sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but it was said a little bit sarcastically.
I would be interested to know what % of visits to this thread have taken on board the obvious benefits of a vegetarian lifestyle Most people can see that being vegetarian would be good for the planet, HOWEVER, very few of us will change our ways for whatever reason.
If you have not managed to convert anyone with all this information, you might as well give up.
You are also promoting a carbon neutral/green lifestyle.
Do you drive? Does anything in your house contain plastic?
Is all the food in your cupboard grown locally? Do you have a refrigerator?
Was all the furniture in your house made locally out of sustainable timber? Do you use toilet roll?
Are you connected to the electricity mains? Does your house have any insulation?
I could go on, but I think you get the picture.
You have posted many links to research, yet I doubt you have managed to convert anyone. I have listed them below to save new readers having to read all 19 pages of ‘chat’. Apologies if I missed any out (it started to get a bit tedious after a while).
Actually too many to put on one page, so listed separately.

**Goodfellers** · 29-Jan-17, 10:52

**Goodfellers** · 29-Jan-17, 10:54

**Rheghead** · 29-Jan-17, 17:38

Originally Posted by Goodfellers

Oh yes, and very informative…………..zzz I know sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but it was said a little bit sarcastically.
I would be interested to know what % of visits to this thread have taken on board the obvious benefits of a vegetarian lifestyle Most people can see that being vegetarian would be good for the planet, HOWEVER, very few of us will change our ways for whatever reason.
If you have not managed to convert anyone with all this information, you might as well give up.
You are also promoting a carbon neutral/green lifestyle.
Do you drive? Does anything in your house contain plastic?
Is all the food in your cupboard grown locally? Do you have a refrigerator?
Was all the furniture in your house made locally out of sustainable timber? Do you use toilet roll?
Are you connected to the electricity mains? Does your house have any insulation?
I could go on, but I think you get the picture.
You have posted many links to research, yet I doubt you have managed to convert anyone. I have listed them below to save new readers having to read all 19 pages of ‘chat’. Apologies if I missed any out (it started to get a bit tedious after a while).
Actually too many to put on one page, so listed separately.

It is erroneous to compare eating meat and milk to other activities because if I promoted driving, using a fridge, electricity then I wouldn't have so much hate pointed towards me. Going vegan doesn't hurt anything, it doesn't harm the environment to great extent and it certainly doesn't harm the the vegan. So why all the hate?

**Goodfellers** · 29-Jan-17, 19:52

Apologies if you detect 'hate' in my posts. None intended.

I am just trying to point out you are fighting a losing battle with the audience you have on here.

Countless links to research that very few, if any bother to look at.

In post 302 you mention Atmosphere and Climate asking if we care about our carbon footprint. I am pointing out if you want to 'inform' us (some might say 'lecture' ). Then you need to be squeaky clean, hence the questions relating to your lifestyle.

I actually agree with a lot of what you say, but I don't like your style of presenting research, it feels like we are idiots who need setting straight. I am fairly intelligent and know the risks of most activities I carry out, be that eating meat, riding a motorbike at silly speeds or sky diving. I choose to do these things knowing the risks and to be honest, I am having a great life.

You can carry on trying to preach to the masses, but I personally think you are fighting a lost cause.

**sids** · 29-Jan-17, 20:46

Perhaps a better tack would be to teach by example.

Tell us about the superior Reggie lifestyle, so we'll envy you, then we might copy you, to gain the same elite position, health and athleticism.

**Rheghead** · 29-Jan-17, 20:53

Originally Posted by Goodfellers

You can carry on trying to preach to the masses, but I personally think you are fighting a lost cause.

Perhaps you can post a few pro-vegan posts and show me how it is done?

**Rheghead** · 29-Jan-17, 20:59

Originally Posted by sids

Perhaps a better tack would be to teach by example.

Tell us about the superior Reggie lifestyle, so we'll envy you, then we might copy you, to gain the same elite position, health and athleticism.

This thread isn't aboout me, it is about raising awareneness of the science that suggests that eating dairy and meat is linked to poor health, harming the environment and is ethically bad for the animal welfare.

Thread: Dairy products are causing cancer.

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