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    Default Dairy products are causing cancer.

    I've just been reading an article in the Telegraph that a leading scientist has warned that eating dairy products like milk, cream and cheese is linked to cancers. It could explain why chinese women in China have much lower incidences of breast cancer 1:100,000 compared to 1:12 in the West because chinese diets are virtually dairy-free.

    The article goes on to explain how cutting out dairy and other animal products like meat and eggs can also have a greater beneficial health impact on our health and yet CancerUK has not supported this despite the evidence.

    It makes me think that if dairy is causing cancer then will dairy products stand side by side with tobacco as dangeroous substances?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...at-cancer.html
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    W.H.O. figures claim otherwise but who am i to contest them. As for dangerous foods, i highly doubt there are any dangerous foods, it's more likely to be all the crap and antibiotics that the animals are pumped full of and the plants sprayed with that are dangerous and cause cancer. People don't realise that not everything that gets into the food chain is safe nor do they realise the harm caused by pollution but im not one to preach so i'll get back to my cigar, bacon sandwich and half bottle of whisky laced with vicodin......

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    This subject comes up very often and gets ridiculed by other experts, very often these experts are only experts when their expertise is proven right but then often are proven wrong by other experts who insist they are right. Now the question is who are we to believe, I wait with abated breath (not holding it) for experts to explain.
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    What worries me is that dairy products do cause cancer. Why are chinese women seemingly unaffected by breast cancer? Are they super human in China but when they come to the west then they seem to suffer similiar rates to western women? It sounds preposterous. Why are the food labellers not telling us the risks involved with drinking milk and eating cheese? Could eating a slice of brie on a cracker have the same risks to our health as smoking a cigarette? We'd all be happy to give our child an ice cream but we would never give them a cigarette surely?

    Shaggy, you may be right about the injections and hormones may be the reason why dairy is carcinogenic but as the product and the injections are inextricably linked(organic farming notwithstanding) then we need to say dairy is causing cancer. Our dairy is produced on factory farms now where it is common practice to inject animals to promote growth unnaturally. We should really avoid the cosy 'farmer Giles' image for farming, that doesn't really exist.

    It reminds me of the tobacco industry back in 1950s to the 70s and society was in denial about the risks and health experts denied there was no link to lung cancer but epidemiology studies clearly showed a link.

    What if I could share some similiar epidemiological studies with eating dairy and see if there was a health risk, should people take things a bit more seriously?
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    This was blatant quackery from the second I read the article. Found a couple good links by quickly googling the scientist's name.

    https://davidjwbailey.com/2014/06/02...omment-page-1/
    http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/blo...-has-it-wrong/

    I think it would be better to believe specialist cancer scientists than a geochemist who basically has gone overboard with a correlation = causation fallacy.

    But what are your studies?
    Last edited by Serenity; 13-Sep-16 at 17:44. Reason: put correct link in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    This was blatant quackery from the second I read the article. Found a couple good links by quickly googling the scientist's name.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...at-cancer.html
    http://www.katherinealbrecht.com/blo...-has-it-wrong/

    I think it would be better to believe specialist cancer scientists than a geochemist who basically has gone overboard with a correlation = causation fallacy.

    But what are your studies?
    Well Serenity, you gave one link and the other is my original link. It seems quackery goes both ways with Katherine Albrecht who advocates that implanted chips leads to the Mark of the Beast and has written a book on religious quackery. https://www.amazon.com/Wont-Take-Mar.../dp/0988280213

    Everyone has a grudge and bias I suppose.

    Regardless though, I want to get to the truth about dairy based upon real evidence, I haven't had time to do any research yet, it is teatime still. I just saw the article in the Telegraph and thought it was disturbing. I am prepared to come up with a lot of resistance to the thought that dairy products cause cancer given that Caithness is a farming and rural area. But I just want to get to the truth and if it is all quackery then it is quackery, the science doesn't support it. period. But if there is truth in any studies done then will you accept the studies and any conclusions?
    Last edited by Rheghead; 13-Sep-16 at 17:39.
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    The results of my research will probably end in three courses of action.

    1. The links between dairy and cancer are not supported by science so there is nothing to worry about.
    2. There is a link between dairy and cancer and the person chooses to consume dairy whilst knowing the risks.
    3. There is a link between dairy and cancer and the person cuts down or eliminates the consumption of dairy products.
    Last edited by Rheghead; 13-Sep-16 at 17:47.
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    As e Caithness fermer chiel would say "there's wiser eitan gress"

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