Polls

[rob murray]

I think confusion is the object of the exercise it gives them time to think.

Is that cos leave were basically winging it and had no thought out withdrawal strategy, so need time to think things through, did they even think that they would win ? Why on earth should anyone trust leave politicians ie the new PM / chancellor etc when on day 1 leavers are ahem ahem "adjusting" claims made ...the dosh for NHS splattered everywhere on their buses etc...now back peddling very fast. Johnson and co are proven deceitful liars. As for labour...........coup now, get rid of the 7 /10 clown now.

[rob murray]

here a good read : seems like out may not turn out. as "out" after all : http://www.centreonconstitutionalcha...t-happens-next

[Hoggie]

Is that cos leave were basically winging it and had no thought out withdrawal strategy, so need time to think things through, did they even think that they would win ? Why on earth should anyone trust leave politicians ie the new PM / chancellor etc when on day 1 leavers are ahem ahem "adjusting" claims made ...the dosh for NHS splattered everywhere on their buses etc...now back peddling very fast. Johnson and co are proven deceitful liars. As for labour...........coup now, get rid of the 7 /10 clown now.

There were strategies: Gove described his vision, and there is the detailed "FLexCit" plan. However both sides in this national punch-up have been loose groupings just heading for their chosen result. Publishing one plan would have caused a walk-out by a good many keen, possibly brainless, volunteers. Imagine saying "we will do a trade deal with the United States by signing TTIP at once" - all the Kippers would have gone home. Now they've got what they wanted, Gove, Fox and Boris can tell the Kippers to get lost, and then do the deals they wanted.

The whole thing is a gory mess and we are looking disaster in the face. However, when we work out who is in charge, the opportunities are enormous to break out of the Eurobubble into the rest of the world. At least we can trust the Whitehall Civil Service to foul everything up.

[rob murray]

There were strategies: Gove described his vision, and there is the detailed "FLexCit" plan. However both sides in this national punch-up have been loose groupings just heading for their chosen result. Publishing one plan would have caused a walk-out by a good many keen, possibly brainless, volunteers. Imagine saying "we will do a trade deal with the United States by signing TTIP at once" - all the Kippers would have gone home. Now they've got what they wanted, Gove, Fox and Boris can tell the Kippers to get lost, and then do the deals they wanted.

The whole thing is a gory mess and we are looking disaster in the face. However, when we work out who is in charge, the opportunities are enormous to break out of the Eurobubble into the rest of the world. At least we can trust the Whitehall Civil Service to foul everything up.

Totally agree and all because of tory splits on EU !! And which "internationalists" think leaving is a good thing Ms Le Pen, Mr Trump and Vladimir Putin