Polls

[mi16]

and the polls get it wrong again.
We are offski, let the battle commence.

[rob murray]

and the polls get it wrong again.
We are offski, let the battle commence.

For what its worth it will be a battle, internal tory fighting wont go away, what direction will a tory government travel ( move further to the right ? ) This referendum was called to unite the tories or flush out anti EU tories nowt to do with us all. Too much has been said, can see a split there, scotlands position for indy 2 now 100% on table, we dont know how markets are going to react medium term and we dont know what out will turn out as we are into the unknown. One things for sure out is out and 1 obvious fact, the immigration issue was a key with working class areas showing the gap between the ivory towers politicians and the reality ordinary people see and live with, obviously they see thing differently and voted accordingly....If BJ becomes PM his cabinet will logically be outers and theyre mostly right wing tories, so welcome to our new reality !

[rob murray]

For what its worth it will be a battle, internal tory fighting wont go away, what direction will a tory government travel ( move further to the right ? ) This referendum was called to unite the tories or flush out anti EU tories nowt to do with us all. Too much has been said, can see a split there, scotlands position for indy 2 now 100% on table, we dont know how markets are going to react medium term and we dont know what out will turn out as we are into the unknown. One things for sure out is out and 1 obvious fact, the immigration issue was a key with working class areas showing the gap between the ivory towers politicians and the reality ordinary people see and live with, obviously they see thing differently and voted accordingly....If BJ becomes PM his cabinet will logically be outers and theyre mostly right wing tories, so welcome to our new reality !

You could argue that people didnt like being bullied by big business who almost unanimously staged an out = disaster campaign backing up govt

[tonkatojo]

I think there are interesting times ahead for the UK, Scotland and Northern Ireland in particular, the SNP have been playing brag with what they will do if an out Brexit occurs and now their bluff has been well and truly called and have no alternative than to put the money where their mouth is and call a Scottish referendum. For me the Scotts should follow her recommendations regarding her Brexit threats and vote as they did for EU status, after all independence will be required to apply for EU membership as she Sturgeon promised, taking onboard the Euro and all the necessary steps dictated to qualify as a new member.
Northern Ireland have the same choice as they too resoundingly voted for EU status as well, although it will be easier for them as they will be joining the southern Ireland EU status.

The UK is going to be quite a changed affair if all the plans go through and not for the best in my opinion.

[cptdodger]

Now that Cameron has resigned and going in October, does that trigger a General Election, or do the Conservatives just vote a new leader, and he or she will take over ?

[mi16]

We will have an unelected PM, same as Gordon Brown or John Major were, its quite early in the term for this though.
I would prefer to see a general election called at this point.

Will Westminster allow another Scottish referendum?
We voted as a Nation a short while back to remain part of the UK, and we voted yesterday as the UK on EU membership.
Its democracy.
Personally I was a remain for both the Scottish and EU votes.
But with the EU vote not going the way I wanted, my point of view on Scottish independence remains the same.

[rob murray]

EU playing hard ball : the leader of the biggest group in the European Parliament Manfred Weber has called for leave negotiations to start immediately.
Under EU law, a country that wants to leave the bloc has two years for negotiations on the terms of the divorce, but only starting from the moment it formally notifies the EU of its intention to exit. Some British officials who campaigned to leave the EU have suggested that London could delay such notification, to make time for informal talks on the best possible exit deal.
David Cameron, said Britain would probably make such a notification only in October, once a new leader of the Tory party is chosen to succeed him. But Weber said the EU should not be held back by internal party politics in Britain.
"We need to avoid a long period of uncertainty and the European continent cannot be occupied by an internal Tory battle about who will be the next leader of the Tory party and the prime minister of Great Britain," Weber said.
"I expect from the British government from the current government in office, I expect from them to do immediately the necessary steps especially next week when there is a Council meeting. We want to immediately start with negotiations ... leave means leave," Weber said. What makes me think that the EU is going to make life very difficult for the UK, self preservation after all they need to frighten off other countries with strongish anti EU feelings

[cptdodger]

We will have an unelected PM, same as Gordon Brown or John Major were, its quite early in the term for this though.
I would prefer to see a general election called at this point.

Will Westminster allow another Scottish referendum?
We voted as a Nation a short while back to remain part of the UK, and we voted yesterday as the UK on EU membership.
Its democracy.
Personally I was a remain for both the Scottish and EU votes.
But with the EU vote not going the way I wanted, my point of view on Scottish independence remains the same.

Thanks for that, I just wasn't sure, I had actually forgotten Brown and Major were not elected. So, Boris Johnson for Prime Minister then !! Can you imagine !