Originally Posted by
squidge
There is not much in the link Rob posted above to set out the position on the EU.
The SNP's position is clear. SNP policy is that Scotland and the U.K. Are better off in the EU. As Scotland is part of the U.K. then it is clear that the best vote is to vote to stay. If Scotland votes by a significant majority to stay in the EU but England votes take us out of the EU then that may be a material change which would warrant a second referendum because the SNP believe that leaving the EU would be seriously detrimental to Scotland. That's why they are campaigning to stay in Europe and why they would consider a second referendum if we are removed from Europe against the will of the Scottish voters.
I will be voting to stay in the EU. That is because I believe that human rights, workers rights, women's rights are all secure because of Europe. If we leave then I have no confidence that this government or subsequent WM governments will protect these hard won rights.
Right Squidge you are probably the only sane Independence supporter left here so can I ask how the hell square that in your head? You whinged bitterly for months about the fact that England has such overwhelming power in the union (there is that irrelevant border again) and how we should leave as we are at a democratic deficit within the union. Yet, you support the EU, an body where the executive is unelected and could do as it wishes, and you would have ZERO say in it, and even in the parliament we are massively outgunned by the Franco/german alliance, a situation not dissimilar to Scottish MP's in Westminster.
By definition you are contradicting yourself, so can you explain how you square that in your head please?
And again you contort Westminster into some monster, like all the Pro-yessers, whcile praising the loverly worker paradise of the EU. Tell me, did decisions like the EU court ruling collective bargaining agreements don't apply during a transfer, or the Commissions imposition of deregulation of umpteen govt run industries across the EU, much to the displeasure of places like Hungary and Poland, escape you? What about Greece, who are now run almost directly from Brussels despite voting in 2 recent elections to reject this path? A course of action I remind you that had a disproportionate affect on women in these places. Do you care that not one MP in the entire EU is allowed to see the draft agreement of ANY of the trade deals the EU Commission is negotioating?
Why is this ignored by you and Westminster vilified?
There are basically 3 type of people in this world, those who can count and those who cant
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