Why do you confuse the EU with the UK?
Boris Jonston, Michael Gove, I.D.S. and co. bitch about Obama's input into the EU Ref. because they want independence from Europe. These same people thanked him when he backed the better together side during the Scottish Ref. They either shut up on the subject or prove themselves hypocrites. I think the latter, but to the unionists that's ok is it?
Why do you confuse the EU with the UK?
Your SNP leader: Mrs Murrell, says that IF the UK votes to leave EU, then this is a 'Trigger Point' for another referendum. Are YOU piratelassie now going to vote to leave EU and thus get Independence?. It's a fair question, and I await with bated breath your answer
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."
The yanks rarely do anything that does not benefit themselves, that is why they want/need us in the EU for some reason/s not explained, as for trade agreement with them they export more to us than we to them, so he can cut his nose off to spite his face if he wants to, but not very good for US business is it.
Hating people because of their colour is wrong. And it doesn't matter which colour does the hating. It's just plain wrong.
Muhammad Ali
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
By the way, does anyone else think that David Cameron wrote Obama's EU warning? The devil is in the detail, Americans rarely say 'queue' they say 'stand in line'
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."
if Scotland voted to leave the EU ,there would be no independence vote. Only the Engish vote can or maybe trigger a independence vote ,nothing Scotland does will change, that's the way the Westminster government wanted it. You can have your say ,but go away and do as we say.
I believe that it would make a little bit of sense to leave the UK in the European context because Scotland as a member state would increase the number of seats and its influence rather than having a pro-rata presence as part of the UK's seat count with no voice. Scotland would be able to vote on issues in a way that prioritises the needs of itelf rather than by being told what to do as part of a London-centric hegemony.
Last edited by Rheghead; 24-Apr-16 at 12:56.
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
Except it was made clear by Brussels at Indy ref time that Scotland would have to re-negotiate to become a member of the EU!
Wot's a 'Reserved matter' with regard to Westminster - suppose it's all rather academic really then...
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."
Read this maybe clear up a few points on NAT EU position for you : http://wisermonkeys.uk/snp.html
There is not much in the link Rob posted above to set out the position on the EU.
The SNP's position is clear. SNP policy is that Scotland and the U.K. Are better off in the EU. As Scotland is part of the U.K. then it is clear that the best vote is to vote to stay. If Scotland votes by a significant majority to stay in the EU but England votes take us out of the EU then that may be a material change which would warrant a second referendum because the SNP believe that leaving the EU would be seriously detrimental to Scotland. That's why they are campaigning to stay in Europe and why they would consider a second referendum if we are removed from Europe against the will of the Scottish voters.
I will be voting to stay in the EU. That is because I believe that human rights, workers rights, women's rights are all secure because of Europe. If we leave then I have no confidence that this government or subsequent WM governments will protect these hard won rights.
Last edited by squidge; 29-Apr-16 at 22:09.
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