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    what gave Alex Salmond the right to go on national television and state that Hilary Benns father would be spinning in his grave at his sons speech.
    What a horribly disgusting thing to say which is of no relevance to the debate, not to mention upsetting to the entire Benn family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davth View Post
    what gave Alex Salmond the right to go on national television and state that Hilary Benns father would be spinning in his grave at his sons speech.
    What a horribly disgusting thing to say which is of no relevance to the debate, not to mention upsetting to the entire Benn family.
    TYpical Salmon, tabloid sound bite politics, all talk and no substance, his own ahem "speech" on wednesday made him sound what he is....a jumped up toon cooncilor way out his depth. In any case Benn jnr is his own man and in his own words "was not and is not a Bennite" in point of fact he wholly disasgreed with old Tony on most issues I would imagine that Tony Benn, whilst not in agreement, would have been very proud of the speech which echoed the great anti fascict speeches of the past. Given that he lost a brother fighting fascism in WW2, who knows what side he would have come down on ?? Of course theres politics at play here, Salmon acting as a divider, ie Labour divided over Syria so Salmon jumping in to enflame the situation for his and the lost indy causes bebefits, anything to create division and grievances thats what indy 2 merchants are at wesmtinster for. ACtually Benn was a committed devolutionist but anti independance for Scotland

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    Quote Originally Posted by davth View Post
    what gave Alex Salmond the right to go on national television and state that Hilary Benns father would be spinning in his grave at his sons speech.
    What a horribly disgusting thing to say which is of no relevance to the debate, not to mention upsetting to the entire Benn family.
    Salmond made his comments during a radio interview, backing an earlier message sent on Twitter by SNP MP George Kerevan. His comments were denounced by Tony Benn's grand-daughter, Emily Benn, who tweeted:........................ "Mr Salmond, Your comments are both deeply offensive and simply untrue. I hope you reflect and retract them."

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    I note he has not retracted his statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by davth View Post
    I note he has not retracted his statement
    Do you really expect him to ? He's said it, he cant retract it now anyway the politically world know SNP politics is always indy based and using Syrian situation for blatant political capital shows the free world what a bunch of insular myopic they truly are. But this aint a UK scenario, globally, others will see right through their tactics

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    Splits in SNP : SNP colleague Stewart McDonald, the MP for Glasgow South, tweeted: “Using his father’s death to make a political point – ‘spinning in his grave’ – is repulsive.”A source close to Hilary Benn dismissed any suggestion that his father would not have been happy with his speech.
    He said: “Tony always used to say, ‘Say what you mean and mean what you say’ and that’s what Hilary did yesterday. “His father wanted him to be true to himself and Hilary is an internationalist.

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    Did you read what Benn said: "I think the truth is that the Labour Party isn't believed any more because people suspect it will say anything to get votes." Whoops that was TONY Benn in 1994!
    "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekisman View Post
    Did you read what Benn said: "I think the truth is that the Labour Party isn't believed any more because people suspect it will say anything to get votes." Whoops that was TONY Benn in 1994!
    Thats Benn snr for you...

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    Corbyn has has close links with terrorist organisations in the past, so I think Cameron's comment was fair point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davth View Post
    what gave Alex Salmond the right to go on national television and state that Hilary Benns father would be spinning in his grave at his sons speech.
    What a horribly disgusting thing to say which is of no relevance to the debate, not to mention upsetting to the entire Benn family.
    Thinking more about some of our ex First Ministers well publicised statements.

    "SNP leader Alex Salmond has said the Scottish referendum is a "once in a generation opportunity" - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-sco...on-opportunity

    From Wikipedia, the definition of a Generation reads;

    It can also be described as, "the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own".[1] In kinship terminology, it is a structural term designating the parent-child relationship. It is also known as biogenesis, reproduction, or procreation in the biological sciences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation

    So conventional wisdom reckons a generation is a period of "about 30 years", as it is tied to the cycle of reproduction. But some, our ex First Minister included, seem to be of the opinion that a generation is just 6 years long, meaning that the cycle of reproduction starts at.......... ????

    Blimey, wheres the pukey emoticon when you need it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by orkneycadian View Post
    Thinking more about some of our ex First Ministers well publicised statements.

    "SNP leader Alex Salmond has said the Scottish referendum is a "once in a generation opportunity" - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-sco...on-opportunity

    From Wikipedia, the definition of a Generation reads;

    It can also be described as, "the average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children are born and grow up, become adults, and begin to have children of their own".[1] In kinship terminology, it is a structural term designating the parent-child relationship. It is also known as biogenesis, reproduction, or procreation in the biological sciences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation

    So conventional wisdom reckons a generation is a period of "about 30 years", as it is tied to the cycle of reproduction. But some, our ex First Minister included, seem to be of the opinion that a generation is just 6 years long, meaning that the cycle of reproduction starts at.......... ????

    Blimey, wheres the pukey emoticon when you need it.


    The phrase, “Once in a generation opportunity” was a was a rhetorical flourish and has no legal Standing - anywhere; the same as Boris Johnston's, "I'd rather be dead in a ditch."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronnuck View Post
    The phrase, “Once in a generation opportunity” was a was a rhetorical flourish and has no legal Standing - anywhere; the same as Boris Johnston's, "I'd rather be dead in a ditch."
    You will note that Boris said "Id rather be dead in a ditch." at no point did he say that he would be dead in a ditch.
    Perhaps the once in a generation thing was an off the cuff remark but it was not taken in that way by most, so there is a moral obligation to adhere to it.
    W.A.T.P.

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    Come on now, dinna be silly Mi16. We are talking about Alec Salmond/SNP here. They don't do Moral or obligation. Is this one of these oxymoron thingies ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bystander1 View Post
    Come on now, dinna be silly Mi16. We are talking about Alec Salmond/SNP here. They don't do Moral or obligation. Is this one of these oxymoron thingies ?
    Innocent until proven guilty and all that but his character is most certainly questionable.
    This he may have been stuck in the 1970s
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    This guy back in court again;

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/107936...used-rape/amp/

    SALMOND COURT DATE Alex Salmond in court accused of rape and string of sex assaults

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-51206284

    Alex Salmond sex offences trial to start in March

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    And what security do the women of Edinburgh, Strichen and everywhere in between get?

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news...snp-court/amp/

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    The earlier hearings cost 5,096 based on 28-per-hour PC pay.

    I doubt very many pc's earn that!

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    A general rule of thumb is that an employee costs an employer twice their wage. 14 an hour sounds feasible.

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    If I read it right, its a week today the trial starts?

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