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    Quote Originally Posted by rob murray View Post
    international action needs to be taken against Turkey andSaudi Arabia... both of whom trade oil with ISIL and effectively fund theoperation...so what do we do there ??? Turkey we can handle but SA...........thats where international interets lie, a complex interconnected mess

    Saudi Arabia is the key. Its going down the plughole as well anyway but its financing and supplying of arms or ISIS is an issue.

    Plus, ISIS are just the same as the Saudi's minus the palaces, with things like killing homosexuals/subjugation of woman etc.
    There are basically 3 type of people in this world, those who can count and those who cant

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    Quote Originally Posted by weezer 316 View Post
    Saudi Arabia is the key. Its going down the plughole as well anyway but its financing and supplying of arms or ISIS is an issue.

    Plus, ISIS are just the same as the Saudi's minus the palaces, with things like killing homosexuals/subjugation of woman etc.
    Spot on but they are sitting on a huge Oil capital reserve, dwindling by the day though at current low Oil prices, the reason there was no Arab spring in SA is the saudi powers can buy people off, but they are a key player in this situation along with Turkey, try and work out their involvement, ie they seem to have 2 enemies the rebel Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and IS, though in reality they hate the Kurds more and have been buying oil from IS. The PKK leader Cemil Bayik accuses Turkey of attacking the PKK in order to "stop the Kurdish advance against [IS]". So Turkey, he said, was actually "protecting IS" See...what a complex mess !

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    In 1918 Britain renaged on promisies given to the arab nations for their help to the allies during WW1.Since then a hatred has grown towards the west. They promised self determination which was denied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    In 1918 Britain renaged on promisies given to the arab nations for their help to the allies during WW1.Since then a hatred has grown towards the west. They promised self determination which was denied.
    Britain and France actually, through the Sykes - Picot agreement of 1916, which was designed to divide the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire outside the Arabian peninsula into areas of future British and French control or influence : But I suppose the rise over the years since of radical religous extremism, murderous dictators, tribal hatred and a complete lack of democracy across most Middle east countries has nothing to do with the situation ? Drop the ladybird childrens book history, stop playing politics with such a dangerous and compex situation, its not as s imple as you make it out to be and certainly not caused by actions of UK. ANyway whats done is done yu cannot go back in time and undo the 1916 agreement, its how we deal with the here and now that matters

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    I see even Germany has voted by an overwhelming majority of 445 to 146 (7 abstained) in favour approving Chancellor Merkel's plan to join the military mission in Syria aimed at defeating daesh; they will send six Tornado reconnaissance jets and a refueling aircraft to back up the international anti-ISIL coalition, but its military will not conduct air strikes (they are forbidden under German constitution - for historical reasons). BUT they are flying over Syria in reconnaissance missions to enable the coalition to attack targets

    The $142m year-long mission also involves deploying up to 1,200 military personnel, as well as a frigate to support the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which Paris has dispatched to the region.

    While 58 per cent of those surveyed in the ARD poll said they agreed that Germany should offer military support in the campaign against ISIL, 37 per cent were opposed.

    "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratelassie View Post
    In 1918 Britain renaged on promisies given to the arab nations for their help to the allies during WW1.Since then a hatred has grown towards the west. They promised self determination which was denied.
    What you saying now ?

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