Anti-English?

[bekisman]

A lot of things are the norm or acceptable in the military.
Meanwhile in real life they are not the norm or acceptable.

Wot! you don't call the Fire Service norm or acceptable.. out of interest just watched Guy Martin 'the last flight of the Vulcan' and the Chief Engineer (civie) was called 'Taff' (Stone) - come on davth, relax and chill. You admit: "I have heard plenty folk being called jock" so tell me were they upset, disgusted, told the speaker to 'go away etc'. Now THAT is the crux of this discussion. i.e. were those people who were spoken to and called 'Jock' apoplectic ?

[bekisman]

When I worked in England in the early 90's I was nicknamed "Haggis" we all had nicknames for each other, no harm meant, in fact, my best friend from those days still calls me that! The only thing I object to being referred to is "scotch" I am not a drink !!

My nicknames have ranged from 'big pete', 'sausage' and 'Jack' (Jack was from the custom of calling Cornish folk 'Cousin Jack', I was fuming about that one - nah, it was fine)

[rob murray]

My nicknames have ranged from 'big pete', 'sausage' and 'Jack' (Jack was from the custom of calling Cornish folk 'Cousin Jack', I was fuming about that one - nah, it was fine)

Could be worse, we could be norwegains or "noggies" as is the term used to call them in certain sectors : "N*ggie is considered a mildly derogatory word for a Norwegian, but is not overly offensive. Best to use with caution". Same can be applied to the word J*ck, ie J*ck is considered a mildly derogatory word for a Scot, but is not overly offensive. Best to use with caution, so if someone uses the term J*ck people reply / respond according to their interpretation and context of the word used, but it is not overly offensive going by the norwegain n*ggie word / term explanation. Is that putting this one to bed ?

[bekisman]

Could be worse, we could be norwegains or "noggies" as is the term used to call them in certain sectors : "N*ggie is considered a mildly derogatory word for a Norwegian, but is not overly offensive. Best to use with caution". Same can be applied to the word J*ck, ie J*ck is considered a mildly derogatory word for a Scot, but is not overly offensive. Best to use with caution, so if someone uses the term J*ck people reply / respond according to their interpretation and context of the word used, but it is not overly offensive going by the norwegain n*ggie word / term explanation. Is that putting this one to bed ?

Of course never call anyone 'Jock' unless I knew them in a friendly way.. but yes this tread has been beaten to death, enough said.. (but I don't think 'someone' will agree)

[davth]

Yup, I would agree with it being a derogatory term.