Reply With QuoteIs there detailed wage info available for them? You have a link?Originally Posted by rob murray
See the measure was defeated in the House of lords last night. Mental. This will be fun.
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Look closer to home, HIghland Council !
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Is there detailed wage info available for them? You have a link?
See the measure was defeated in the House of lords last night. Mental. This will be fun.
There are basically 3 type of people in this world, those who can count and those who cant
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It's no big secret that public sector wages have been rising a lot more quickly than private sector which require little technical skill and do not have the same commercial pressures of the private sector.
If you read most of the job requirements for council jobs nowadays they are written in gobbledygook so apply only if you have our pc money grubbing values.
Just shows how out of touch councils have become building their ivory towers and giving jobs for their own peculiar breed.
fundamentally they are no longer fit for purpose.
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You're an ideologue. Clearly the public sector consists of a much more technical workforce than most private companies. They earn more because if you shut your eyes and randomly point the chances are you will hit somone with a technical skill vis a vis the private sector. On top of that, all job titles are gobbledygook that I have ever seen and you don't brandish the private sector with the same amount of scorn en masse. Your like the nationalists in your zeal bar its private enterprise you cant see past.
The problem is the top salaries and who they go too. A people manager shouldn't earn more than the man/woman who for example designs and manages the systems that keep out water safe. Yet they will, probably a lot more. Leads to skills leaving jobs for higher pay and lower productivity, while a chancer cna talk his way into a man management job yet couldnt do the job himself he is in charge of.
There are basically 3 type of people in this world, those who can count and those who cant
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IN HC there are 7 levels of management and then a layer above them, in 14/15 pay scales were
Management grade 1 37k
Grade 2 41k
grade 3 46k
grade 4 52 k
grade 5 60 k
grade 6 68 k
grade 7 77 k
Chief Executive - £142,926
Depute Chief Executive and Director of Corporate Development - £118,323
Director of Care and Learning - £107,568
Director of Community Services - £107,568
Director of Development and Infrastructure - £107,568
Director of Finance - £107,568
for above 100k plus see http://www.highland.gov.uk/info/695/...ior_managers/2 the rest are in a PDF accessed from http://www.highland.gov.uk/downloads..._2014_and_2015 : lowest paid is = £12k........
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Well, CPT, obviously you have more knowledge than me from the 60s etc. My brother lived in Dundee in the 70s and it was a depressing place then is all I can say. I am in Dundee a lot as one of my kids lives there. Of course there is deprivation, I never said that there was not but at least things are being improved which to my mind is better. I went to the exhibition of the short-listed designs for the V and A before the vote and I thought that they were all amazing. It is a pity that you view it as a monstrosity but there it is. My two lived in one of the new waterside flats for 3 years plus (renting) and they loved it there on City Quay.
Anyway, as this thread is to do with tax credits, I am not contributing further and will just continue to enjoy my visits to Dundee. My family members certainly like living there and there is lots to do and places to go to and for me, I particularly like all the green spaces and wild flower areas which are free for everyone to enjoy and I am looking forward to going to the new V and A if I live that long, of course.
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If I did'nt originally come from Dundee, and my only experience of living in the City was living there (City Quay) I would have the same blinkered view of Dundee as well.
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Blurgh.......The CEO earns 7k a year more than the first minister!! Are you kidding me! Unreal. Just unbelievable. Seems they cant even get the higher you are the more you earn bit right either! fine.
There are basically 3 type of people in this world, those who can count and those who cant
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They would likely say that they ( senior managers ) are accountable and manage a large budget, hence the pay scales......me.....well yonks back the public sector was not that well paid cos staff had job guarantees, pensions and didnt carry the hassles of private business...so whats changed. As regards HC their arguement for the large salaries is that they have to pay them to attract the right calibre of people.......if you do a like for like comparison between the public and private sector in the Highlands very few private sector companies pay these sorta rates.
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I'm far from an ideologue the public sector has its place but I consider some of the wages paid nowadays to those running them unrealistic. In the private sector if you fail you're fairly swiftly dismissed from your position and replaced in the public sector it seems they just get moved to another position. I'm not sure why you consider the public sector full of more technical expertise than the private sector maybe you've no real experience of what skills are required at the top of some of the countries leading companies.
Last edited by BetterTogether; 27-Oct-15 at 15:27.
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Spot your misatke lol lol lol....................... In the private sector if you fail you're fairly swiftly dismissed from your position and replaced in the private ( do ya mean PUBLIC ) sector it seems they just get moved to another position.
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Oops mea culpa !
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AYe...slow down on the ol keyboard lol lol lol .............................
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I'm just having one of those days. Put it down to the clocks going back and full moon.
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NEW figures suggest Highland Council spends around £30,000- a-month on hire cars for its workers. The council spend £363,063 on hired cars including £120,138 on fuel costs for the last financial year. From the Caithness Courier
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Taking that the owners of said hire cars will be making a profit and the lease of reasonable cars is fairly inexpensive it does beg the question why aren't they using some form of lease/ maintenance scheme to have their own pool of cars to keep costs down.
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You could also ask whether the proposed £8.5 million price tag of the council offices in Wick was money well spent, when the highland council are screaming about cuts needing to be made. I'm pretty sure any private sector enterprise would of either made the most of the buildings they already have or just moved into a pre existing building and modified it to suit. The Old Caithness Glass building up by Tesco would of probably managed to accommodate a lot of the required office spaces with a lot smaller price tag to the public purse and wouldn't of landed an architectural monstrosity in the middle of town.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ficit-trebles/
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